Guest guest Posted August 10, 1999 Report Share Posted August 10, 1999 SrI: Shrimate Shri Lakshmi Nrusimha Parabrahmane Namaha: Shrimate Shri Seetha Ramachandra Parabrahmane Namaha: Shrimate Shri Ramanujaya Namaha: Shrimate Nigamantha Maha Desikaya Namaha: Shrimate Shrivan Satagopa Shri Narayana Yateendra Mahadesikaya Namaha: " SrimAn VenaktanAthArya: kavithArkika kEsarI! VedAnthAchArya varyO mE sannidhatthAM sadhA hrudhi " !! We saw that Lord HayagrIva was pratyaksham to Swami Desika. This was possible only because of Garuda. Shri Appular initiated the vainateya mantra to Swami and advised him to concentrate on the mantra and do dhyana on Lord Garuda to acquire his grace. Swami went to Aindai (Tiru-Ahindrapuram) to start the dhyanam. Tiru-Ahindrapuram has the garuda nadhi and Oshadhadri hill. These have been purified by the divine presence of garuda himself. Swami meditated at the foot of Asvattha tree, on Garuda - the deity who is Veda incarnate. With in a short time, pleased with Swami, Garuda appeared and initiated Lord Hayagriva mantra to him. Garuda having instructed the mantra of Lord HayagrIva - the horse faced supreme god presiding over all knowledge, advised Swami to propitiate to that God by dhyana. So, Swami meditated as instructed by Garuda and thus could have a dharshan of HayagrIva. When we discussed the Kalyana gunas of Swami Desika, we discussed that Swami was a 'krutagnya:'.One who does not forget the help rendered is 'krutagnya:'. This being Swami's kalyAna guna, Swami wanted to please Garuda who helped him to realise the Lord of learning. Swami's indebtedness to Garuda has resulted in two stotras composed by him garuda pancasat and garuda dandakam. Swami Desika's garuda dandakam briefly describes the greatness of Garuda. The name Garudadandakam was given by Swami Desika himself to this stotra. Later Swami composed garuda Panchasat, the fifty on garuda who is the vehicle of Bhagavan Narayana and also the king of all birds. Here Garuda's greatness is dealt with, in greater detail for the benefit of all. From the last Sloka of garuda Panchasat we learn that Swami Desika composed this hymn carrying out the command of Lord Garuda. In every one of the four quarters of the hymn Swami pays respects and salutations to Lord Garuda. From this Swami's devotion to Lord Garuda is evident. Swami had the realisation of Guruda and Hayagriva in Thiruvahindra puram. This made Swami Desika continue his stay. In the due course, Swami worshipped the presiding deity of the shrine - Lord Devanatha. And that was the birth of all the works on Lord Devanatha which we saw in our earlier postings. Swami's poetic talents is evident in every Slouch of both these hymns. For instance in Garuda pancaasat, instead of repeating the word 'Garuda' in every Sloka, thirty-five synonyms are used! In every Sloka Swami makes a prayer to Garuda for protection. Both these stotras on Garuda is the result of the love and devotion of Swami Desika to Garuda!! " Kavi Taarkika Simhaaya Kalyaana guna SaalinE! SrimatE VenkateshAya VedAnta Gurave nama !! " ....To be continued! dEsikan tiruvaDigaLE SaraNam Praveena nAmni Ramanuja dasi 10th Aug 1999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 1999 Report Share Posted August 10, 1999 Sri: Dearest Sisters and Brothers, Smt Praveena's posts are simply great and simple as well. her kaimkaryam and the efforts she undertakes to post everyday- phenomenal. Her this post on GarudA- stimulates me to ask this question / doubt to Bhagawathas. Why is that Swami Desikan mentions only a passing line (in Raghuveera Gadyam) on SiRiya Thiruvadi, while he sand a dhaNdakam and a Panchasat on Periya Thiruvadi? I may be wrong or miss something somewhere. Regards Narayana Narayana Narayana dAsan ____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 1999 Report Share Posted August 11, 1999 Sri: SrimatE Gopaladesika MahadesikAya Namaha, Dear Sriman Madhavakkannan Swamin, Periya Tiruvadi: Garuda occupies an elevated position in Our sampradayam on account of his eternal Kaimkaryam to Lord Narayana. The Kaimkaryam of Anjaneya was limited to the Vibhava Avataram of Lord Rama. The importance of Garuda in our Sampradayam rooted in the Vedas can be understood from the Vedic association of Garuda. Sthoman is the Saama Vedam passage dealing with Saaman. Sthoman forms the Atma of Garuda. Garuda's eyes denote the Gayathri Saaman. His head denotes the Trivruth Saaman. His body is formed of the Vaama Devya Saaman. Garuda's wings denote the Bruhat Saaman and Radantara Saaman respectively. Garuda's name is verily the Yajur Vedam. Garuda's limbs form the Gayathri Chandas. Lord Krishna has declared in the Bhagavad-Gita VedAnAm Saama VedOsmi. Consequently, due to his Saama Vedam connection Garuda is extremely special to Lord Narayana and perforce to Swami Desikan. The uniqueness of Saama Vedam is that it extols Lord Narayana alone and none else. In other Vedams, one may find mention of other deities (with the implicit notion that the tribute is for their in-dweller-Lord Narayana). Therefore, Saama Vedam occupies the pride of place in connection with Lord Narayana. Nitya Suris in Sri Vaikuntam please Lord Narayana through their constant rendition of the Rks from Saama Vedam. U.Ve. Dr. A. Ananthanarasimhachariar Swamin (Bangalore), Srikaryam Swami of Srimad Poundarikapuram Ashramam, remarked in a private conversation with Adiyen that eloquent testimony in support of the Veda Vakyam " Saama Veda PriyO VishNu: " can be seen just as the Lord ascends Garuda. Swamin said " The Lord places His lotus feet on Garuda's palms. Garuda raises the Lord and seats Him on his back. The repeated raising of the Lord by Garuda indicates: Behold the Lord of Saama Vedam! (Thooki Thooki Kamikkarrar) " . Gayathri Saaman focusses exclusively on the lotus feet of Lord Narayana. Due to its connection with the Garuda Chakshush, Garuda embodies the VishNu Sooktam Rk " Tad VishNO: Paramam Padam SadA Pashayanti Soorayaha " . Therefore, Veda-Swaroopi Garuda begets a status worthy of great pride in our Sampradayam (Perumai Mikka Stithi). On the other hand, Anjaneya declined Moksham and hence a place in Sri Vaikuntam. Instead, he preferred to hear the name of Lord Rama in this Lokam. Since he is not a Nitya Soori he is not immersed in Nitya Kaimkaryam for Lord Narayana. Due to his relatively smaller role (in comparison to Garuda), Anjaneya is extolled by Swami Desikan in a single salutation of the Mahaveera Vaibhavam, whereas Garuda's Mahimai is extolled in two majestic Stuthis. Adiyen invites other scholars in this forum to contribute their inputs. Srimans Sadagopan Swamin, Rengarajan Swamin, Anbil Swamin, Kalale Swamin, and Anand Swamin may have information to add to the above. Namo Narayana, SriMuralidhara Dasan _____________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 1999 Report Share Posted August 11, 1999 Sri: Srimathe Gopaladesika Mahadesikaya Namah: Dearest Sri Murali, BravO! Great references! Lovely Vedic truths! Simple and superb post! Saama vEdam, ThiruvEmkatam, Garudan, SudharsanaAhwAr, Lakshmi Narasimhan, Gayathri, Hayagreevar- are all, I know are your favourites. Great writing. Thoroughly enjoyed! Thanks for sharing such sweet info. Regards Narayana Narayana Narayana dAsan ____ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 1999 Report Share Posted August 12, 1999 SrI: Dear Shri Muralidhar namO nArAyaNA. Thanks for your excellent explanation. You wrote --------------------------- On the other hand, Anjaneya declined Moksham and hence a place in Sri Vaikuntam. Instead, he preferred to hear the name of Lord Rama in this Lokam. Since he is not a Nitya Soori he is not immersed in Nitya Kaimkaryam for Lord Narayana. ---------------------------- In view of the above statement Adiyal has a few clarifications. 1. When Anjaneya has declined Moksham and is not even immersed in Nitya Kaimkaryam for Lord Narayana, why is it that he has a separate sannidhi in the temples? (Though he faces Lord Rama it is still a separate sannidhi). 2. We know the Anjaneya cannot be worshipped without Rama, when that be the case how is it how is it that we have Anjaneya appearing in the tiruman along with other nithyasoories - Peria tiruvadi, Sudarsana and panchacanja ? 3. Similarly, in the Aradanam we see that when food is divided into 6 parts it is offered to Perumal, ThAyar ... VisvaksenA ...other nithyasoories.... Anjaneya? When Anjaneya is not a nithya soori and is not in Srivaikundam how is it that bojyAsanam is offered to him along with others residing in Srivaikundam? Looking forward for clarifications. Sita Rama Jayam Praveena nAMni RAmanuja dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 1999 Report Share Posted August 26, 1999 SrI: SrI Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmaNE namaha SrI Lakshminrusimha divya pAdukA sEvaka SrIvaN- SatakOpa SrI nArAyaNa yateendra mahAdESikAya namaha Dear Smt Praveena, namO nArAyaNA. Extremly sorry for a very belated reply. For past few weeks adiyEn was not able to catch up with the e-mails. Smt Praveena wrote : >1. When Anjaneya has declined Moksham and is not even immersed in Nitya > Kaimkaryam for Lord Narayana, why is it that he has a separate sannidhi >in >the temples? (Though he faces Lord Rama it is still a separate sannidhi). The practise of constructing separate sannidhis for aanjanEyar ( addressed with reverence in sampradAyam as " siRiya thiruvadi " ) is a recent one and it is not traditional. If we perform pratishta according to aagamAs, the existing idol/image made of prakruti (materialistic elements) transforms into archA avatAram in the case of PerumAL, pirAtti, Nitya sUris (like AdisEsha, vishwaksEna, Garuda and others), AzhwArs and SrI Vaishnava AchAryAs, since out of their unbounded mercy, they make their divine presence in that idol/image with divine suddha-sattva body (*). The acceptance of archA avatAram by PerumAL and others is marked by the presence of their suddha sattva thirumEni and they mercifuly take this avatAram to please their devotees who wants to have loving reciprocation and worship them. But, archA thirumEni can be made up of suddha sattvam, only for those who are free of karma and thus are at SrI VaikuNTam serving the divya dampati. Thus for the vigraha of annjanEyar, the suddha sattvam thirumEni is not possible, since he is serving PerumAL here itself and has not obtained moksham yet. This is the reason for not having separate sannidhis to aanjanEyar, sages like vyAsar and others who are still in this materialistic world, though they are exalted souls. Thus, one can have separate sannidhis for Garudan ( addressed with reverence as " PeRiya thiruvadi " in sampradAyam), SudarsanAzhwAr (Chakra / discus of PerumAL), Bhagavad RAmAnuja, SwAmi dESikan, AthivaNN SatakOpa Jeeyar and others because, all of them are free of karma and are at SrI VaikuNTam (**). While separate sannidhis for Brahma, Siva, aanjanEyar and others can't be had, they can be present as bhAgavathAs worshipping an archA avatAram of PerumAL. Thus, we see in temples Brahma from nAbhi kamalam of PerumAL, aanjanEyar alongwith Lord rAmA etc and can be worshipped. > >2. We know the Anjaneya cannot be worshipped without Rama, when that be the >case >how is it how is it that we have Anjaneya appearing in the tiruman along >with >other nithyasoories - Peria tiruvadi, Sudarsana and panchacanja ? There is a difference between " Worshipping " and showing reverence. Worship is performed in accordance with aagamAs. We know about PerumAL, Garuda, aanjanEyar and others through scriptures and we have to also worship them according to scriptures. Thus, we can't worship aanjanEyar in a separate sannidhi. But aanjanEyar, is addressed with great reverence as " siRiya thiruvadi " in our sampradAyam for the very great kainkaryams he performed to Lord Rama and sItA pirAtti. Thus, aanjanEyar being a great devotee is also present alongwith others as mentioned by you. > >3. Similarly, in the Aradanam we see that when food is divided into 6 parts >it is >offered to Perumal, ThAyar ... VisvaksenA ...other nithyasoories.... >Anjaneya? >When Anjaneya is not a nithya soori and is not in Srivaikundam how is it >that >bojyAsanam is offered to him along with others residing in Srivaikundam? First of all, adiyEn has not received such an upadEsam of splitting a part of prasAdam to aanjanEyar. It is not present in the aahnIkam commentry " SrI Vaishnava SadAchAra nirnaya " by current Villivalam Azhagiyasingar. This splitting of prasAdam into six parts is not in the tradition of munitraya sampradAyam which is based upon SrI GOpAladESikan's aahnikam. adiyEn would like to know if some AchArya parampara follows such a tradition of splitting the prasAdam and keeping a portion for nivEdanam to aanjanEyar. According to the tradition followed in SrI Ahobila Mutt, (from the commentry by Azhagiyasingar), after performing nivEdanam to PerumAL, the prasAdam is split into the following six parts : 1. For performing vaisvadEvam by gruhastAs. 2. For performing nivEdanam to SrI dEvi (ie. Lakshmi alias " pERiya pirAtti " ), followed by nivEdanam to SrI VishwaksEnar, NammAzhwAr and aachAryAs of the guruparampara downto one's direct aachArya. 3. For nivEdanam to BhUmi dEvi and nILA dEvi. 4. For nivEdanam to aadisEshan. 5. For nivEdanam to Garudan. 6. For nivEdanam to " divya booshana - divya aayuda - pAdukA parijana - paricchadangaL " (ie. for divine nitya sUris serving as divine ornaments, weapons, sandal and other assistants/servitors). This anyway doesn't mean that we disrespect aanjanEyar's exaltedness as a great bhAgavathA (as discussed above). ------ (*) : SwAmi dESikan by quoting from pAn~carAtra texts, explains that just as how excess milk (eg: 10 litres) when mixed with little water (eg: 1 litre), is still milk ( of 11 litres), the archA thirumEni (divine body) of archA avatArams of PerumAL and others are made up of suddha sattvam (excess amount) though prakruti (small amount) is present. Thus, one should never ever look at archA thirumEnis as if it is something materialistic. (**) : PerumAL and pirAtti are vibhu ie. all pervading. So, they are also present personally in the archA avatAram they take and through that, they accept various forms of worship as indicated in sAstrAs. But nitya sUrIs like Garuda are jIvAtmAs which are " aNu " and thus can be at only one place. Thus, while they are at SrI VaikuNTam , they make their divine presence in the archA avatAram through their fully expanded dharmabhUta jn~Anam (attributive knowledge). Thus, though they may not be physically present in each of their archA avatArams, they accept the worship of the devotees through their dharmabhUta jn~Anam which is fully expanded to comprehend everything and bless the devotees accordingly. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan ananthapadmanAbha dAsan krishNArpaNAm _____________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 1999 Report Share Posted October 10, 1999 SrI: Dear Shri Anand namO nArAyaNA. Thanks a lot for the excellent explanations relating to siriya Thiruvadi. Extremely sorry for the belated response. Shri Anand Karalapakkam wrote: ---------------------------- While separate sannidhis for Brahma, Siva, aanjanEyar and others can't be had, they can be present as bhAgavathAs worshipping an archA avatAram of PerumAL. Thus, we see in temples Brahma from nAbhi kamalam of PerumAL, aanjanEyar alongwith Lord rAmA etc and can be worshipped. (**) : PerumAL and pirAtti are vibhu ie. all pervading. So, they are also present personally in the archA avatAram they take and through that, they accept various forms of worship as indicated in sAstrAs. But nitya sUrIs like Garuda are jIvAtmAs which are " aNu " and thus can be at only one place. Thus, while they are at SrI VaikuNTam , they make their divine presence in the archA avatAram through their fully expanded dharmabhUta jn~Anam (attributive knowledge). Thus, though they may not be physically present in each of their archA avatArams, they accept the worship of the devotees through their dharmabhUta jn~Anam which is fully expanded to comprehend everything and bless the devotees accordingly. ---------------------------- AdiyEn needs one more clarification. Brahma, Siva, aanjanEyar and other's are Jivatmas. They are aNu. So, even if they are placed in seperate sannidhi's do we really believe that they are be present there? Can they know the happenings every where? AdiyEn also wants to know the proper meaning of " yatra yatra raghunAtha keerthanam... " . How can Shri AnjanEyar who is in this materialistic world be present where ever rAma nAmam is recited? Does he have expanded Dharma bhootha gjnanam or sth like that? Acharyan ThiruvadigalE saranam Praveena nAmni Ramanuja dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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