Guest guest Posted August 15, 1999 Report Share Posted August 15, 1999 Sri: Sri Lakshmi nrisimha parabrahmaNE nama: Sri Lakshmi nrisimha divya paduka sevaka srivan satakopa sri narayana yatindra mahadesikaya nama: Dear Bhagavathas: It is scarcely believable that we get to enjoy Upanyasams in the traditional style that too directly from Srimad Azhagiya Singar. Jeeyar's sowlabyam cannot be described in mere words, only to be experienced. It seems HH enjoys giving the discourse just as much as we enjoy listening to it. Reports from back home show that Srimad Azhagiya Singar is particularly joyful after the completion of the upanyasam. What is more unbelievable is the amount of information packed into every word of the paasuram. With all the humor and wit it is easy to overlook the comprehensive nature of the coverage from all the known commentaries including NanjIyar, NampiLLai, Periyavaachhaan piLLai, Thampiraan, azhagiya maNavaaLa perumaaL nayanaar, etc. So much to enjoy from each phrase, such as, meyymmaiyE, maRRaRiyEn, avan ponnadi, paavin innisai. Today's (Aug 14, 99) Upanyasam was a mother load of nectar. Let me share just a couple of points. paavin inisai paadi thirivanE ----------------------------- It is well known that for Madurakavi Azhvar, Nammaazhvar is the Lord to the exclusion of even perumaaL. But with the last line of the second paasuram, " paavin inisai paadi thirivanE " Madurakavi Azhvar abandons even Nammaazhvar, abandons even Thiruvaaymozhi and settles only for the musical essence, not the even the purport just the music, of Thiruvaaymozhi. To establish the validity of the above, Srimad Azhagiya Singar first proved the superiority of Thiruvaaymozhi over the Vedas, and then showed that the refined essence of Thiruvaaymozhi is its music i.e. paavin innisai. Consider Thiruvaaymozhi 9.4.8 and 9.4.9. In Pasuram 9.4.8 Nammaazvaar says, in first person, that he has seen the Lord. In the very next paasuram (9.4.9) Nammazhvaar explains that the joy complete satisfaction of seeing the Lord (kaNNiNai Ara kaLLiththu) is shared by all the bhagavthas through the Thiruvaaymozhi songs. In contrast, the Vedas could not see the Lord adequately and had to retreat from its attempt. What the Vedas could not do, Nammaazhvar did in Thiruvaaymozhi, i.e. perform saakshaathkaram of perumaaL and convey the experience to other bhagavathas. Jeeyar also quoted Swami Sri Desikan for establishing the greatness of Divya Prabhandham compared to the Vedas. Amurdhasvathini #27: -------------------- kaasiniyin maNi anaiththum kaayaa vaNNan kadaintheduttha kavuththuvaththin seermaik kovvaa kaasi muthalaakiya nannakari yellaam kaarmEni aruLaaLar kachchik kovvaa maasin manantheLi munivar vaguththa ellaam maalukantha aasiriyar vaarththaik kovvaa vaasiyaRinthu ivai uraiththOm vaiyaththuLLeer vaippaaka ivaikoNdu magizhmineerE. Free translation: ---------------- All the precious stones in this world is no match for the Kausthubam. Starting from Kasi, the great cities of this world are no match for AruLaaLar's city of Kanchi. Similiarly, the Vedas, smrithi, and puraaNaas, (even the most pure Vishnu purANam), are no match for Dhivya Prabhandham. mallugandha vaarththai = Azhavaar srI sukthIs maasil manantheLi munivar vaguththa vellaam = Vedas, smrithi, purANAs Thus the greatness of Thiruvaaymozhi with respect to the Vedas/smrithi/puraaNaas is evident. Even from Thiruvaaymozhi, Madurakavi took only its " innisai " nothing more. Srimad Azhagiya singar explained with the example of a fruit and the sweetness of the fruit. What MadurakavikaL wanted was just the sweetness of the fruit, not the fruit itself as the fruit contains not just sweetness, but tasteless pulp as well. The fruit is Thiruvaaymozhi, but its musical sound (paavin innisai) is the sweetness of the fruit. The relevant portion of the original Nanjeeyar commentary is given below: " Bhagavath praapthiyai praapyaththil pradhamaavathi enRu kazhiththu, idhil saramaavathiyaana AzhvAraiyum uththEsyaranRu enRu kazhaiththu, avarOdu sambanthiththa vishaiyaththaiyum raSAsrayamanRu enRu kazhiththu, aththOdu sambatthiththa isaiyE enakku uddhdhEsyamenRkiRAr. " Another angle ------------- In the above, " kurukoor nambi paavin innisai " was interpreted as the musical sound of Thiruvvaymozhi. For this interpretation, " kurukoor nambi paa " can be interpreted as the songs sung by kurukoor nambi. It can also be interpreted as the songs _about_ Kurukoor nambi, i.e. KaNNinuN siRuththaambu. Then, the " innisai " that the Azhavar says he will sing and roam about, is his own composition KaNNinuN siRuththaambu. Thus, we can see that Madurakavi Azhvaar first abandoned the Lord in favor of Nammaazhvaar; then he abandoned Nammaazhvar for Thiruvaaymozhi, and finally he even abandoned Thiruvaaymozhi in favor of simply reciting KaNNinuN siRuththaambu. Such is its greatness. Two kinds of naasthikaas ------------------------ With the phrase " devu maRRaRiyEn " the Azhvar implicitly admits the existence of other deities. This is similar to Nammaazhvar's own " dheyvam maRRillai pEsuminE " (4.10.3) These are used to show perumaaL's lordship over all other entities. In the course of illustrating the point that perumaaL is the Lord of everything including all the other devathaas, Srimad Azhagiya Singar cited Srimad RTS where Swami Sri Desikan identifies two kinds of Nasthikas. One type of Nasthikas includes Sankhyas, Mimamsakas, Bouththaas, etc., who agree with the existence of the material world, but deny the existence of God. (‘vibhoothiyai isaindhu, vibhoothimAnai illai enbavar). The second kind of Nasthikas are those who agree with the existence of God, but deny the material world. (VibhoothimAnai isaindhu, vibhoothiyai illai enbavar.) This kind of Nasthikas are ‘Advaitees'. srimad azhagiya singar thiruvadigaLE saraNam -- adiyen ramanuja dasan p.s. Due to adiyEn's obvious limitations if anything is misstated in the above please make the necessary corrections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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