Guest guest Posted November 27, 1999 Report Share Posted November 27, 1999 Sri: Sri Lakshmi nrisimha parabrahmaNE nama: Sri Lakshmi nrisimha divya paduka sevaka srivan satakopa sri narayana yatindra mahadesikaya nama: This note is about Prapatti. Please review Sri Anand Karalapakkam's article at http://www.ahobilamutt.org/prapatti.html if needed. In the last year or so adiyEn came across a few devout Sri Vaishnavas showing some hesitation about performing Saranagati for mOksham. The reasons include self-perceived lack of knowledge, feeling unworthy to perform Saranagati, fear of failure to live up to the high standards of post-prapatti life style, etc. These legitimate fears are perhaps due to past karma, the main impediment for mOksham. We often see people who seem wholly unworthy and unknowledgeable, easily perform prapatti due to the compassionate glances of sadAcAryas. But, we also see people who seem to exhibit exemplary knowledge and intellectual prowess fail to put to practice the critical knowledge about Prapatti. So, is knowledge a prerequisite for performing Saranagati? Who is worthy of undertaking Prapatti? How do we allay the fear of failure to live a life of a Prapanna? It is adiyEn's wish to present some views on these questions consistent with the teachings of our Acaryas. If there is any error please attribute it to my lack of understanding and please do feel free to correct them. About knowledge --------------- As baddhas our knowledge has remained contracted over uncountable lives over eons and eons. However much we try in this life time, our knowledge will remain to a large extent shrouded as long as we remain in Samsara. But, if we do Prapatti in this life time this contracted knowledge is bound to expand to its full glory in just a matter of few years, at the most hundred years. Thus, it does not make sense to put off the performance of Prapatti on account of perceived deficit in knowledge and prolong this deficit for many more life spans. From another angle, despite our sincere effort our level of knowledge is bound to increase only marginally during our stay in Samsara. To a large extent it will remain shrouded in the cloak of Samsara. Then, what is the guarantee that the marginally expanded knowledge will lead one into Prapatti? We see so many scholars fully knowledgeable in Sastras not performing Prapatti. What is the justification to think that with slightly more knowledge we will be ready for Prapatti? Here, let us remind ourselves of the episode in Sri Bhattar's kalakshepa goshti. The erudite scholar fully conversant with all sasthras was unable to give a definitive answer to the question " who is the Paratatvam? " However, the one who seemed to be a simpleton with no education had the critical knowledge that counts and was able to demonstrate the answer for this question by his refusal to accept alms from those who did not know that Sriman Narayana is the only Paratatvam. Thus, what good is all the knowledge in the world if one is confused about the most important knowledge? Taking this a step further, what good is even the critical knowledge if it is not brought into anushtaanam of Prapatti? Please do not get me wrong, knowledge acquired in the proper way is extremely important. But we must also realize that for a vast majority of Sri Vaishnavas the important and relevant knowledge required for Prapatti is the knowledge about our complete dependence upon Perumal and our nature to be his possession. Even this is not a must as we are told by poorvaacharyas and present day acaryas alike that by simply being subservient to great Acharyas and Bhagavathas even animals bereft of any knowledge attain mOksham. Then why do some of us think we need to be scholars before taking up Prapatti? The only answer is karma. Putting off Prapatti until gaining more knowledge is very much like waiting for the waves to subside before taking a dip in the ocean. There is nothing to prevent us to continue to learn after Prapatti. In fact we must all continue our study to the extent our abilities and circumstances permit. But do not let self perceived lack of knowledge delay the observance of Prapatti. Worthy or not worthy? --------------------- In fact not being worthy is what makes one eligible for Prapatti. Among those who are desirous of mOksham, the ones who are overwhelmed by a feeling of inadequacy are the ones who are most qualified for Prapatti. The prerequisites for Prapatti are (i) Akinchinyam (feeling of utter inadequacy to attain moksham through one's own efforts) and (ii) ananyagatitvam (lack of any means for mOksham other than Perumal). So, ask the following questions, [1] do you want release from Samsaram at the end of this life time? [2] are you incapable of attaining mOksham on your own effort? [3] do you put all your trust in only Perumal to grant you mOksham? If one answers " yes " to the above simple questions, then he/she is eminently qualified for Prapatti. No other qualification is necessary. Life of a Prapanna ------------------ Fear of not being able to live up to the standards of a Prapanna is probably the most decisive reason for a sincere Sri Vaishnava to put off Prapatti. This is unjustifiable if we truly believe that we are helpless. If we put our trust in the Lord and AcArya, they will show us a way to modify our life style. To strive on our own to perfect ourselves prior to Prapatti is, it seems to me, to negate " akinchinyatvam " , a prerequisite for Prapatti. If one must first be confident of a perfect post-Prapatti life style before feeling qualified for Prapatti, no one will be eligible. Our Sampradayam is full of expressions of extreme unworthiness. But our Sampradayam is also full of adoration for the Lord's grace that can lift even the worst among us to glory. If we trust Perumal and AcArya, they will show us a way out of our proclivities. It seems to me that after Prapatti one will be naturally motivated to serve one's AcArya more and more. This will lead to increased contacts with practicing sincere Sri Vaishnavas. This will in turn intensify our desire to serve AcAryas even more. This happy cycle will lead to the fulfilment of the five angas of Prapatti. In other words, do not put off Prapatti until the five angas of Prapatti are perfected. For the sincere, Perumal will fulfill these angas in due course of time. It will happen, do not doubt the power of Perumal's grace and AcArya's compassion. Here it is pertinent to remind ourselves of Swami Sri Desikan who assures us that sins committed after Prapatti unknowingly will be ignored by Perumal. We will receive punishments for sins committed consciously, but the Lord will mot deny mOksham. The only acts that will negate Prpatti are (i) anya devatA worship which invalidates " ananyagatitvam " , one of the prerequisites for Prapatti, and (ii) bhAgavata/AcArya apacAram which is a capital offense that will brook the Lord's intense anger and displeasure. It is clear from Swami Sri Desikan and our Sadsampradayam that unless one undergoes Prapatti in accordance with Sasthras, in one form or another, i.e. Uktinishtai, or Acarya nishtai (for all practical purposes Svanishtai is not available as even great Mahans for a long time have refrained from the practice of Svanishtai), Perumal will not grant mOksham. Therefore, for those who are desirous of breaking the cycle of Samsara it is a matter of utmost urgency that they undertake Prapatti through a SadAcArya without any delay as no one can guarantee how long our present life will last. srimad azhagiya singar thiruvadigaLE saraNam -- adiyEn ramanuja dasan p.s. There are many other reasons people put off Prapatti, such as, why now itself, let us enjoy life now, we can do Prapatti when we are old, if we do Prapatti we cannot eat onions, etc. etc. But these are too silly to be occupying the minds of our net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 1999 Report Share Posted November 27, 1999 Sri: Sri Lakshmi nrisimha parabrahmaNE nama: Sri Lakshmi nrisimha divya paduka sevaka srivan satakopa sri narayana yatindra mahadesikaya nama: [Krishna Kalale] Sri Ananda karalapakkam has written a very good article on prapatti and when one is ready for it. What I am writing here is not against what is written in the article. but I would like to write certain points to make it clear so that people get the right picture. 1. One should inform others regarding prapatti. but more often than not, if one is very close like a parent or spouse or brother or sister or even a close friend, people with knowledge of prapatti tend to force prapatti on them even though others are not really ready for it. This has happened in many cases in practice. In many cases it works out fine. but in some cases it has backfired. The person after having prapatti since he / she was sort of pressurized into it has expressed openly that he/she should not have done it! This is the worst possibility. However, I have to admit that adiyen is guilty of such a persuasion. I am sure it is up to srimannarayana and acharyas to deal with such prapattis. But, I feel very guilty of such an sorry incident. When I consulted shastras, I found that one should not pressurise anyone other than one's children not even spouse; however spouse sort of comes under a gray area. Even children who are old should not be pressurised. They have to taught slowly and induced into this. there is a rule in the shastras - na apristah kasyachit bruyat - if one has not asked a particular thing dont tell him what he has not asked. it will be wrong to give information which one has not asked for; like how one should not feed a person forcibly who has just eaten a big meal and is completely satisfied and full. It is better to feed a hungry person instead. I am sure that the very medium of internet, books etc. violate this rule. But atleast writing on internet opens up information but does not pressurise anyone to follow it. Believe me, without the internet and books most srivaishnavas would completely be left in the lurch with no information whatsoever. With the change in times which forces individuals to live in far away lands, internet is more a blessing than a problem. 2. One should really feel that one needs prapatti or else such a person should not undergo prapatti for just a social acceptance reason of some such thing. I know one case where a parent forced an adult (daughter) to undergo prapatti and that person never took it seriously. Again adiyen knows about another such a case where in the aspirant was not at all an aspirant and got prapatti in " gumbal ode gumbal " (in a group situation) and even joked about it. Note. One should know that whatever form an acharya chooses to perform prapatti it will certainly work without any doubts. One should not have any doubts. If someone has doubts that person should wait or seek the help of an acharya before getting prapatti. For example, one needs a good amount of mahavishvasa for prapatti even if that person has less of the other 4 angas (requirements). The worst thing is for one to feel bad after getting prapatti. Please note that these are some exceptions but I have no intention to contradict what was written by Sri ananda karalapakkam with so much shraddha and sincerity. AGAIN THESE ARE MY OWN THOUGHTS. I HAVE NOT ASKED AN ACHARYA REGARDING THE CORRECTNESS OF THESE ISSUES. ADIYEN SINCERELY FEELS THAT THESE ISSUES RAISED ARE CORRECT. I REQUEST SRI ANAND KARALAPAKKAM TO ASK ELDERS AND ACHARYAS REGARDING THIS AND CONFIRM. adiyen Krishna Kalale ------ Srimate Sri Laksminrisimha Divya Paduka Sevaka Srivan Satakopa Sri Narayana Yatindra Mahadesikaya Nama: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 1999 Report Share Posted November 28, 1999 Krishna Kalale [sMTP:kkalale1] Saturday, November 27, 1999 1:01 PM Malolan Net Re: When is one ready for Prapatti? [Krishna Kalale] I guess the previous article was written by Sri Dileepan. I misunderstood that it was written by Sri Anand Karalapakkam adiyen Krishna Kalale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 1999 Report Share Posted November 30, 1999 Dear Bhagavatas The brilliant write up of Sri Dileepan would have cleared many doubts. Sri Kalale has added inputs in which he has very ably argued against forcing anyone to undertake Prapatti. I believe that none in the net is interested in proselytizing an unwilling person into accepting Prapatti. One will resort to Prapatti only IF and when the Lord wills so; No amount of persuasion can help. Since it is said that " PrapannAth anyEshAm na disathi mukundhO nijapadam " - there is no other way than Prapatti for one to attain Moksham than Prapatti, what is sought to be done is to create an awareness about the Prapatti marga so that people (otherwise knowledgeable or not) may develop an interest and resort to Prapatti in due course " when the Lord feels that they are ready. " In this connection, I would like to deal with a dew genuine doubts expressed on the subject and attempt to answer them. Dasoham Anbil Ramaswamy ============================================================ Doubt 1 : What guarantee is there that a person performing Prapatti is sure to reach MOksha at the end of this life? Answer : The Vedas, Sastras and the entire gamut of our scriptures proclaim this truth; The venerable Maharishis, Sages and Seers of ancient times have seconded this fact; The lineage of our AchAryas have confirmed in unambiguous terms the veracity of the claim. Nothing more will be needed to accept the proposition. One is reminded of Bhattar's exposition of an imaginary conversation as between Lord RanganAtha and a Jiva taking place at the time of the Lord emerging out of his ceremonial bath (Thirumanjana) Wearing a single wet yellow raiment and a solitary garland of Tulasi (the holy basil) standing serenely before the shining lamp with wick soaked in pure ghee.- Lord : You are mine. Jeeva : No. I am mine. Lord : How do you say that? Jeeva : Where is the record in support of your claim? Lord : My claim is based on Vedas. Jeeva : Vedas are your making. Lord : Then, on what basis do you say that you are yours. Jeeva : I have been believing this from the beginningless time and on the strength of life experiences (Anubhava Vibhava) and this is verily the law. Lord : But your claim has been objected. Jeeva : By whom and when? Lord : By Gita and other scriptures. Jeeva: Gita is your word; Scriptures are your making. Tell me, have you any other witnesses to support the objections? Lord : Yes, the great VyAsa, ParAsara and other great sires. Jeeva : Lo! They are all prejudiced in your favor (Pakshapadi). Bhattar imagines that since no judge or jury could be spotted to settle the dispute, the only course open to the Lord was to appear in the attire he wore, stand serenely before the lamp and swear. May be, even such swearing will not be believed these days but in Bhattar's period people had absolute faith when someone swore to the truth in the manner described. Even so, Sri Swami Desika is prepared to discuss both the alternatives of the proposition being true or false. He says that if it were true and if you are desirous of salvation, you get what you want; If not true, you do not lose anything by performing Prapatti. So, it is a case of 'All win and no loss' and invites us to have a try. Doubt 2: It is said that after doing Prapatti no sins should be committed. If committed they would accrue to the Acharya. As frail humans subject to Karma, we cannot avoid committing sins knowingly or unknowingly. And, to make the Acharya suffer on account of our faults would be unfair to him. Therefore, it is better to postpone Prapatti as far as possible and perform it at the end of this life when very little time will be left in our hands to commit any sins -- thus 'Sparing the Acharya' from our misdemeanor. Answer : The argument is indeed very clever, seeks to help in evading performance of Prapatti and impart a justification for escapism. It is true that Manu Dharma Sastra very clearly stipulates that 'The sins committed by his subjects accrue to the king; the king's sins accrue to his Purohit; the wife's sins accrue to the husband and the disciple's sins accrue to his preceptor.' The objection is obviously based on this. This is a general rule applicable to ordinary circumstances. The position of a Prapanna stands on a different footing. The Prapatti SAstra admits that as human beings exposed to the vagaries of life even a Prapanna might commit sins. But, in the first place a Prapanna will scrupulously avoid committing any sins whatsoever. Sins committed unknowingly will not have any effect. Sins committed knowingly can be expiated by repentance (Nirveda) or by atonement (PrAyaschitta) or by undergoing minor sufferings by way of punishment (if not atoned.) Thus, such sins will not cling to the Prapanna himself and there is no question of their accruing to the Acharya as assumed. Therefore the Prapatti SAstras advise you to 'Save your own soul' and also 'Spare the Acharya' from being dragged into the net of your sins by a 'transfer entry' as imagined by you. Doubt 3: Some advance another specious excuse that in the background of modern day hectic activity and struggle for survival, one cannot be too meticulous about observing the age old stipulations of Dharmic duties like SaligrAma ArAdhana etc.; one cannot be too fastidious about avoiding prohibited foods like onions, garlic etc, or too fussy about partaking in 'socializing' involving as it does (in some cases) imbibing intoxicants. Some wanting to appear more puritanic than the puritans extend it to such innocuous pastimes like viewing movies or TV shows or using baser materials like stainless steel in the place of Silver pooja articles etc. Answer : Again, this is an escapist argument betraying an unwillingness to face facts and a flagrant turning away from the goal of MOksha. Let it be understood that there is * no compulsion from any quarters that one should seek salvation; * no condition that one should stay away from sins; * no restriction on consuming undesirable foods; * no embargo on one's socializing -- if these please one and suits one's predilections. All that is sought to be impressed is that if -- and there is a big if there -- if one desires salvation (the whole treatise of Srimad Rahasya Traya SAram is only for such a person and such a person only) there are ways to go about it. As already explained, if in any unavoidable circumstances, the Prapanna is unable to fulfill his Dharmic duties in the prescribed manner or is compelled to resort to non- dharmic practices such as eating unholy or remnant foods or drink, such situations will fall under the category of sins committed knowingly. As explained earlier, one should feel really repentant (Nirveda) or perform atonement (PrAyaschitta) and beseech the Lord to excuse the indiscretion due to circumstances beyond one's control (individually and socially.) Viewing movies or TV is neither Dharmic nor Adharmic so long as it does not interfere with the observance of other Swadharmic duties prescribed in the SAstras. No doubt the Prapanna should earnestly endeavor to avoid getting into such situations in future. Doubt 4. There are many passages even in our Sandyavandana, Tarpana etc., worshipping Pitrus and other deities like Vayu, Agni, Gayatri, Savitri, Saraswati, Brahma Deivatyam, Rudra Deivatyam etc., If only NArAyaNa is to be worshipped, why do we worship these minor divinities? Answer : Firstly, these expressions have been drawn from the Vedas prescribing the daily recitations in which these deities are invoked as the embodiment of Sri NArAyaNa, who is their soul. When we mention their names, we are not worshipping them but their indwelling soul, the Paramatma, Sri NArAyaNa. Secondly, since these names are only common names they are applicable to them as well as to Sri NArAyaNa indwelling in them. We are not actually worshipping them but only Sri NArAyaNa (e.g) the word 'Agni' means 'One who leads'- 'Agre Nayati iti Agni.'Though it names Agni, it denotes NArAyaNa who is the real one who actually leads even the deity of Agni. Thus, the ultimate meaning of any attributes or divinities actually refer to Lord NArAyaNa . When we garland someone, we do not garland the shirt on which it is worn, nor the body of the person wearing it but the person within. So also, when the names of these divinities are uttered , they are meant actually to refer ultimately to Lord NArAyaNa only. What is essential for a Prapanna are just the following and it says it all. 1. Should have firm and exclusive faith in Sri NArAyaNa as the sole savior and bestower of Moksha and in Prapatti as the sole means to secure Moksha. 2. Should scrupulously avoid under any circumstances any disrespect in mind, word or deed towards Bhagavan, Bhagavatas and Acharyas. If the attitude is healthy, motivation ethical, intention honest and if the will is there to remain virtuous in the face of temptations, there always is a way to remain so. The constant effort towards evolution will come in naturally and one can palpably feel in one's own heart the progress of regeneration and a march to self improvement. Nobody need be worried about not being able to achieve perfection to the level of their role-models because only 'practice makes for perfection.' Any attempts towards perfection will be a stepping stone to the success. If one develops this faith and this attitude, all else will fall in place automatically. (Note: These are excerpts from " Chapter 18 Prapatti " of " Hinduism Rediscovered " archived at www.srivaishnava.org/sgati by Sri Venkatesh Elayavalli) ============================================================ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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