Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Dear Sri Malolan Cadambi: I am delighted to hear that HH Srimath Azhagiyasingar was at your house for a dhOlOthsavam for KaNNan. I will try to provide some answers to your two questions (Listed at the end of this posting. Please refer to them first before browsing this posting for context): (1) Question 1: Sri BalarAmA avathAram is 8th in the series of DasAvathArams .Sri KrishNA's is 9th . Hence KrishNAvatharam is recognized in our sampradhAyam as the one following Sri BalarAmAvathaaram. You can find support ofr this hierarchy in Swamy Desikan's DasAvathaara Sthothram . Pakkathkourava pattaNa prabhruthaya: ( salutation to Sri BalarAmAvathAram ) precedes NaathAyaiva nama: padham ( salutation to Sri KrishNA ). Whether Shri BalarAmAvathAram is an amsAvathAram like ParasurAmAvathAram is some thing other BhakthAs would like to comment.It must be pointed out that ParasurAmAvatharam is one in which the Lord infused His divine powers in a pious Brahmin for performing some miracles .During the AyOdhyA- RaamAvathAram , the Lord pulled back all the divine powers from ParusurAmaan. Thus, ParasurAmAvathAram is not considered a direct avathArAm of Sriman NaarAyaNA , although AzhwArs and AchAryAs have paid their tributes to ParasurAman inview of His traditional inclusion in the DasAvathArams. Another point is that ParasurAman and Sri Raaman (Chakravarthi Thirumahan ) coexisted upto a point in time. In other words , there was an overlap of two avathArams in time scale. Same is true for BalarAma-KrishNAvathArams. Sriman NaarAyaNA took on the avathAram of BalarAman to enact the role of the elder brother of KaNNan . BalarAman was never away from KaNNan (apruthakbhUthan in Swamy Desikan's mangaLAsAsanam). Swamy Desikan goes on to salute the inseperable aspect of BalarAman and KaNNan from boyhood as sugar and milk mixed together for enhanced enjoyment of the BhakthAs (Ksheram sarkkarayEva). Further, Swamy Desikan points out that the joint leelais of BalarAmAn and KrishNan enriched and multiplied the quality of our anubhavams and made that anubhavam delectable thru such union ( thaa keLaya: prabhUthai: guNai: jagathE asvadhantha). It is thus difficult to separate BalarAmAvathAram from that of KrishNaa from the enjoyment point of view. Thus we can not replace BalarAma avathAram by BuddhAvathAram , which will leave a jolting void . There are however more serious objections to include BuddhAvathAram among the ten avathArams of the Lord.Prior to discussing the latter, let us enjoy the second half of the majestic slOkam of Swamy Desikan to pay his salute to BalarAman in the SaardhUla VikrIditham meter: These key words on BalarAmAvathAram in Swamy Desikan's salutation are worthy of our attention : " Ksheeram sakkarayEva yaabhi: apruthaghbhUthA: prabhUthairguNai: aakoumArakam asvadhantha jagathE KrishNasya thaa kELaya: " (2) Question 2: In our sampradhAyam , Buddhism and Jainism are considered as mathams that do not accept Vedham ( Vedha Baahya Mathams)and hence are rejected at the first step of consideration . Hence , there will be no way to accept the founder of Buddhism , Gauthama BuddhA as an avthAram of Sriman NaarAyaNA. The views of BuddhA are considered nihilistic and for a fuller study of Sri VisishtAdhvatin's objections to the views of BuddhA and the variations thereof developed by his followers , Swamy Desikan's terse and brilliant monograph, " SarvArtha Siddhi " is a must to read. Thus, BuddhA can never be included as an avathAram of Sriman NaarAyaNA in our sampradhAyam . Best wishes, V.Sadagopan At 03:27 AM 4/28/00 +0530, you wrote: Sri: Srimathe Malola NarasimhAya Namaha ------------------------- >Dear Bhaktas, >I have a small doubt. Please help me by clearing my doubt. > >In the line of the Dasha AvatAram, Balarama comes after Krishna. But >during the end of the MahabharatA, Balarama goes back into the Ocean in >>the form of a serpent. I was told the Balarama as well as Lakshmana are >>the incarnations of Adi Sesha. If this is true, then how can the 9th >>Avatar ( Balarama) be of Lord Vishnu's AvatarA. Some texts say the 9th >>Avatara after Krishna-vatara is the Buddha-vatara. >> >>NamO Narayana, >> >>Malolan Cadambi >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------ >>Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your >>unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching. >>And, it's FREE! >>http://click./1/3013/2/_/716111/_/956878908/ >>------ >> >>----------------------------- >> - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - >>To Post a message, send it to: bhakti-list (AT) eGroups (DOT) com >>Visit http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/ for more information >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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