Guest guest Posted June 20, 2000 Report Share Posted June 20, 2000 Dear Shree Vaishnavas, With reference to the answers given by various scholars regarding why Bhagavan also wears " Tiruman " , I would like to add few points. First of all the " Tiruman " as per the scripture is representation of the divine foot (Charanam (1) and not Charanow (2)) of Narayanan with the central line " Shree Haridra Shree Choornam " representing " Shree " . It is a mark made to show that the Jeevatman is " Seshsa " , " Daasa " and " Paratantra " of Shree and Vishnu. It shows that we have Shree Vaishnava Kainkarya Shree. But in the case of Bhagavan, when he wears it, it is not in this meaning but just for beauty and to teach us that we Jeevaatmans should wear it. Also it can be said that he wears it because he thinks " Jgnaani twaatmaiva me matham " and " Sa mahatmaa sudurlabhaha " . The presence of Tiruman in the forehead of the Lord shows that he has the " Shree " of Bhatka-Paraadeenatvam and Saranaagata Vaatsalyam. The Lord considers himself as " Paraadeena " (controlled by) his Bhaktha. This is only to show his divine mercy and love that he has on the Jeevatmans. There is no doubt as per the Veda that the Brahman is the only supreme self. Regards & Thanks M.S.HARI Ramanuja Dasan. ====================================================================== Sadagopan <sgopan wrote: Dear BhakthAs : There was a question in the other net as to why PerumAL wears ThirumaN and why some times three lines and at other times one line ( a Tilakam ). My response might be of interst to you. Srimath Azhagiya Singar ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam V.Sadagopan > Here is a possible answer to the question on PerumAL wearing " one line " instead of " the three lines " on His forehead . Our Lord Representing AchArya Paramparai: ***************************************** Our Lord is the PrathamAchAryan as indicated in the GuruparamparA Taniyan: LakshminAtha SamArambhAm NaaTha Yaamuna MadhyamAm asmathAchArya paryanthAm vandhE GuruparamparAm LakshminAthan or Sriya: pathi is the first in our lineage of our AchAryAs . Therefore , He has no choice except to adorn the VaishNava Chinnam (symbol) : ThirumaNN . To remind us of the importance of our AchAryAs , some times the Lord Himself appeared in front of our AchAryAs ( Before AchArya RaamAnujA at Thirukkurungudi for manthra UpadEsam and got the ThirunAmAm of Sri VaishNava Nampi, Sri RenganAthan as a small boy to bless us with the taniyan for Sri MaNavALa Maamuni: Sri SailEsa DayApAthram -). Hence , it is understandable that He has to adorn the most important VaishNava Chinnam , PuNDram or ThirumaNN .He si reminding us to wear the ThirumaNN. The Sevai of our ArchA Moorthys at their dhivya Desams ******************************************************* When you take a survey of the 106 dhivya dEsa EmperumAns , You will find an interesting trend and some variations to it . Moolavar has the Three line ThirumaNN ************************************** The commonly observed trend is that the Moolavar wears ThirumaNN with " three lines " . The Uthsavar wears either a trainagular diamond or gem as Tilakam in place of the ThriumaNN . Uthsavar some times has the three liner **************************************** In the case of Thiruppathi Uthsavar (Malayappa Swami), He wears a " three line " ThirumaNN ;The Ubhaya NaachiyArs of Uthsavar at Thiruppathi also wear disctinct ThirumaNN with " Three lines " . This is to reflect their VaishNava Sri. Other dhivya dEsa Uthsavars having three line ThirumaNN are : KrupAsamudhra PerumAL of SirupuliyUr ,SaaranAtha PerumAL of ThirucchErai,ThiruvAli-Thirunagari perumAL, GovindarAjan of Thillai Thirucchitthira Kootam , many EmperumAns of ThirunAngUr dhivya desams with the exception of the PerumAL of ThiruvaNN PurushOtthamam , ThirukkUdal Azhagar ,RangamannAr of SrivillipputthUr , ThiruppuLingudi Kaacchina VEndhan, ThirukkOvalUr and others. Some times three liners and other times gem traingles ******************************************************* Oppiliappan (Ponnappan ) Uthsavar on special occasions wears a three line ThirumaNN and on other occsasions wears a diamond inverted triangle to represent the ThirumaNN. This is a situation of either Three lines or the inverted gem traingle adorning the foreheads of the Uthsavars . Inverted Gem Triangles symbolizing ThirumaNN(Uthsavars) ******************************************************* Sri Kasthuri Rangan's ( Uthsavar at Srirangam) huge single gem on His forehead is an ancient one standing in for the ThirumaNN .ThirukkaNNapuram's SourirAja PerumAL, ThirunaRayUr SrinivAsan,ThirukkaNnangudi DaamOdhara NaarayaNan , KaLLazhagar of ThirumAlirumchOlai, AzhwAr Thirunagari's AadhinAthan , ThiruvallikkENi's ParthasArathy PerumAL, Sri Moorthy of SaaLagrAmam , Thirukkudnthai AarAvamudhan, Thiruanbil PerumAL , Kaanchi VaradarAjan and others. Just a red line representing Sri Devi ************************************** ThiruvaraguNamangai VijayAsanap PerumAL uthsavar has a huge ruby on His forehead as ThirumaNN . This is Just Sri ChUrnam ! Most of the MalayALa Naattu Thiruppathis have gOpi chnadanam and vermillion (Kumkumam ) at the center. Summary ******* The Supreme ViashNava Sri of the Lord as our AchAryan is represented in many ways , when they wear the symbol of Sri VaishNavaa. Our Uthsavar's consorts (Ubhaya NaacchiyArs) at Thirumalai wear clear three lined ThirumaNN as the second in line of AchAryAs . NamO NaarAyaNAYa , V.SadagOpan At 09:55 AM 6/19/00 -0700, you wrote: >>dear Bhagavatas, >> >>namaskar. >> >>Why does Perumal keep Thirumann on His forehead? one of >>my colleagues, a Srivaishnava, says that we do not have all the three lines on the forehead of the image of Perumal in many temples and have only the middle line. is it true? >> >>dasan >>vishnu Srimate Sri Laksminrisimha Divya Paduka Sevaka Srivan Satakopa Sri Narayana Yatindra Mahadesikaya Nama: __________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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