Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Sorry, I did not adjust for the time difference correctly. The correct times are as shown below. Please note, there is no problem with the conclusions given. Aug 3 (Friday) Chaturdasi lasts for 9.44 nazghigai Pornami begins at 6:05 a.m. + 9.44 nazhigai = 9:51 a.m. In Eastern Time zone = 12:21 a.m. (Aug 3rd) Aug 4 (Saturday) Powrnami lasts for 13.58 nazhigai Pradhamai begins at 6:05 a.m. + 13.58 nazhigai = 11:30 a.m. In Eastern Time zone = 2:00 a.m. (Aug 4th) Please note, different panjangams give slightly different durations for each thithi. This may have to be reconciled as well, but not a problem here. -- adiyEn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2001 Report Share Posted July 28, 2001 Dear friendas; Thanks a lot to Sri Dileepan for taking pains to arrive at the correct timings for Upakarma and Gayatri Japam. As he has observed "different panjangams give slightly different durations for each thithi. This may have to be reconciled as well, but not a problem here." As per Vasan Tirukkanitha Panchangam the following timings are shown:August 3rd Chaturdasi upto 7.57 nazhigai (i.e) upto 9.09 am (EST 6.40 pm on 2nd August) Pournami begins at 9.10 am (EST 6.41pm on 2nd August) August 4th Pournami lasts upto 13.40 nazhigais i.e 11.26 am (EST 8.57 pmon August 3rd) Prathamai begins at 11.26 am (EST 8.58) Pournami lasts for more than 12 nazhigais (13.40nazhigais) on Augut 4th in India. Some recalculations seem to be called for, for those who follow "Vasan Panchangam" There is a difference as between Nrisimhapriya and Sri Ranganatha Paduka PanchngaSangrahams regarding this year's observances. The former states that if the junction of Pournami and Prathamai happens between 12 nazhigais and 15 nazhigais (called Aavarthaka kaalam), both Upakarma and Gayatri Japam have to be done on the same day i.e on Saturday (in India). When both have to be done on the same day,it says that Gayatri Japam should be done first and then only Upakarma and gives the following sequence: 1. Nityakarmanushtanam 2. Kamokaarsheeth Japam 3. Gayatri Japam 4. Bhagavad Aradhanam 5. Upakarma (as given on page22 of Nrisimhapriya July 2001 issue) But, Sri Ranganatha Paduka instructs Rig- Yajur Upaakarma on 4th August (saturday) and Gayatri Japam on 5th August (Sunday). (as given on page 7 of Sri Ranganatha Paduka July 2001 issue) Both are as per Indian Standard time (taken as 00) which itself is not accurate because between Mumbai on the West coast (with 72.54 in Longitude which is 29 minutes later than IST) and Kolkata on the East coast(with 88.19 Longitude which is32 minutes ahead of IST), the actual time difference is more than ONE FULL HOUR(61 minutes)! Recalculations to suit timings in the other time zones seem to be needed even in India, let alone USA. The Sishyas of the respective traditions may follow as per the instructions in the two official journals of the respectivr Matam /Ashramam. My opinion: Since Panchangam details such as Thithi, Vaara, Nakshatra, Yoga and Karana are based on the exact time of SUNRISE on any given day at any given place, what applies to a day in India (Say, Saturday) will be applicable for the SAME day elsewhere (viz Saturday) and so on. No recalculations seem necessary. Otherwise, a recalculation with reference to time-zone concept will mean our doing at night in USA what is required to be done in the morning in India and vice versa. But, there is problem in this also. In Alaska, for example, the Sun does not set for 6 months or so during Summer and the Sun neveer rises during winter. How can we calculate the timings there for one wanting to observe the chores?. May be one should depend on one's clock (assuming that the clock does its rounds accurately!) The other problem in the other time zones is that we "spring forward" by an hour during Spring and "fallback" by an hour during fall. But, this can be solved by following the exact time of Sunrise as per the local metereologists, irrespective of the time differences between Springtime and Summertime. Have I confused you more than clarifying? Can some knowledgeable persons guide us? The best thing, however, is as Sri Dileepan has advised viz to consult our Acharyas but only after placing before them all these facts and aspects entirely for their authoritative opinion. Dasoham Anbil Ramaswamy - dileepan Friday, July 27, 2001 12:52 PM Correction in times - Yajur upakarma Sorry, I did not adjust for the time difference correctly. Thecorrect times are as shown below. Please note, there is no problemwith the conclusions given.Aug 3 (Friday)Chaturdasi lasts for 9.44 nazghigaiPornami begins at 6:05 a.m. + 9.44 nazhigai = 9:51 a.m.In Eastern Time zone = 12:21 a.m. (Aug 3rd)Aug 4 (Saturday)Powrnami lasts for 13.58 nazhigaiPradhamai begins at 6:05 a.m. + 13.58 nazhigai = 11:30 a.m.In Eastern Time zone = 2:00 a.m. (Aug 4th)Please note, different panjangams give slightly different durationsfor each thithi. This may have to be reconciled as well, but not aproblem here.-- adiyEnSrimate Sri Laksminrisimha Divya Paduka SevakaSrivan Satakopa Sri Narayana Yatindra Mahadesikaya Nama: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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