who started adhyayana utsava

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Below is the message by Anbil, supposedly this is wrong. His newsletter includes wrong information according to Jeeyar Swami. Who started Adhyayana Utsavam?

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chinna jeeyar <acharya27 Mon May 6, 2002 1:29 am Re: Re: 5th Veda? where did this term come from

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Priya Sriman!Jai Srimannarayana!We have posted some information about it yesterday.The information posted in this letter below, waswritten with a little ignorance it seems. it has tobecorrected with the following:Even during Pre-Nadhamuni's time, Divya Prabandham waskept in practice in Srirangam Temple. Even before SriNadhamuni, the divya prabandham was already existingin most of the Srivaishnava temples as a part oftheritual. No one objected that, according to the historyavailable. Sri Nadhamuni found the "a:ra:vamude:...." songs inKumbako:nam temple, while the priests were chantingthem as a part of their A:ra:dhana only. So, Alwars'songs were prohibited in the temples, for, they weresung by SUDRAS or it was in DRAVIDA LANGUAGE etc.,was not at all correct and against to the history.Deva Bha:sha Sankrit was respected with high glory and that is true. Other languages like Tamil were alsoequally respected, when they speak about the LordNarayana. That understanding was existing even beforeSri Ra:ma:nuja. That is the reason Sri Ramanuja alsostudied Divya Prabandham and it's commentaries fromNambies. The commentaries were not documented duringthose days. And so, Sri Ramanujacharya ordered hisdisciples to present commentaries like"A:ra:yirappadi"(6000 prabandham) to Thiruvai Mozhi. Any distortion misleads the seekers of the truth. Ifsomeone know the history well, they can write aboutit, otherwise, better not to make such distortion.Somebody said that "something is better than nothing"and then it made very clear by welwishers that"Nothing is better than non-sence".Even post-Ramanuja period also the prabandham and itscommentary tradition caught up well and somany otheracharyas added their commentaries to the existingones. Adhyayana Utsavam was not started by De:sika Swamy. Itwas started by Thirumangai Alwar only. Without anybreak it was in practise there in Srirangam. In fact,Sri de;sika swamy protected the Brahmasuthracommentaries which were in manuscripts during thosedays, keeping himself under the dead-bodies for about7 days. He also added some tamil and sanskritcommentaries in prose & poetry form to the existingones. He never meddled with the temple system or itsworship system in Srirangam according to the history. As you said about the "Kama Sasthra". It was thehistory again, which took place during Sri Para:saraBhattar's time, just after Sri Ramanuja's period, itmeans, long before Sri Vedantha Desika's time. Sayabout 200 years before. Some scholar wanted to listen to the discourses ofSriBhattar swamy and joined the pravachana group. TiruvaiMozhi was the topic. He enjoyed the 1st 10 songs.appreciated the supremacy of the Lord, listedcarefully the 2nd dasakam. ashtonished by hearing thevairagya upadesham made by Nammalwar. He also heardthe 3rd 10 songs, which reveal theaccessability(soulabhya) of Lord Krishna, felt likehearing more and more of Nammalwar's songs. When the4th 10 songs were started he felt very sorry and wentaway, for, they reveal the sorrowful state ofNammalwar, in suffering from the pangs of seperationfrom the Lord. He sung a few songs as a seperated ladysings for her Lover. That scholar thought it as,Ka:ma, the lust. He could not understand that theGod's Love is irresistable than that of the worldlyka:mas. He never sought the expanation from SriBhattar also. Sri Bhattar felt very sorry for hismisunderstanding. This was the history.Better to understand the right things and inform. Ifit is only for your own enjoyment, you do whatever youwish. But when we inform to others, we should be verycorrect for ourselves. Otherwise, that becomesirrepairable damage and thus an inexcusable sin topu:rva:charyas. We hope you try to understand. =chinnajeeyar=- Ram Anbil <Ramanbil wrote:> Dear Bhagavatas:> > The view expressed by Sri Parthiban Ragahavachari is> partly correct. It is > Mahabharata that is recognized as the 5th Veda and> there is no dispute about > this.> > Nammazhwar is known as "Vedam Tamizh seitha Maaran".> It is he brought the > essnce of the 4 Vedas in his 4 Prabandams. When> these were lost to the > world, it was Sriman Nathamuni who documented > having assimilated them from > Swami Nammazhwar in a trance. This tradition> continued for some time and > again faced a period of decadence during and after> the period of Bhagavad > Ramanuja.> > All the 9 works of Ramanuja are in Sanskrit though> they faithfully reflected > the philosphy contained in the Prabandams which in> turn were themselves the > replica of the philosophy of the Vedas.Obcviously,> this was because of the > intolerance of the people in his times of whatever> was not in the Deva > Baasha of Sanskrit.> > Some orthodox people objected to the recital of> Divya Prabanam in Sri Rangam > temple on the grounds that> - they included the works of Non-Brahmin Azhwars> - written in Dravida Baasha and> - Tiruvoimozhi in particular dealt with "Kama" that> was taboo for them. > Swami Desika argued with them and convinced them> that> - the holy collects were equal to Vedas since they> contained all that were > in the Vedas,> - that since they were in praise of the Lord, the> language doid not matter > and> - that the "Kaama" spoken of was nothing but> absolute devotion to the Lord. > He reinstituted the practice of "Adhyayana Utsava",> the ceremonial honoring > of the Azhwars at Srirangam (Not Tirumalai as made> out by Sri Parthiban).> > Again, it was not Swami Desika who first recognized> the equality of Vedas > and Prabandas, though it was he who convincingly> argued and established this > as mentioned in the above incident.> Dasoham> Anbil Ramaswamy> > >

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At 12:31 PM 5/13/2002 -0700, Nivedana Nivedana wrote:

Respected Members,

 

Below is the message by Anbil, supposedly this is wrong. His

newsletter includes wrong information according to Jeeyar Swami.

Who started Adhyayana Utsavam?

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I have not read the newsletter you have cited. Therefore,

my comments are not about the newsletter. I would like

to address some of the information provided in the text

of the post you have included.

First, it is true that Adyayana Utsavam was not started

by Swami Sri Desikan. It was started by Swami Thirumangai

Azhvar. But, it is not correct to say that the Adyayana

Utsavam was practiced without any break. It is a well

known historical fact that Sri Rangam was occupied by

invading Muslim army for several years. During this

time utasavar namperumal was not present in the temple

and the moolavar was hidden behind a wall. Obviously,

not even daily aradhanai could be performed during this

time, let alone utsavams, that too Adyayana Utsavam.

Next, it is true that Tamil enjoyed great reverence equal

to Sanskrit. But this was limited only to Sri Vaishnava

community. Even though Swami Thriumangai Azhvar started

the Adyayana Utsavam, opposition to the formal ritualistic

recitation of Dhivya Prabhandham continued. This fact

can be verified by the opposition Sri Ramanuja faced

in the administration of Sri Rangam temple. In the

course of these difficulties, Sri Ramanuja had to leave

Sri Rangam and go to Karnataka. Sri Ramanuja's Acharya

Sri Periya nambi lost his life. Sri Ramanuja's sishya

Sri Koorathazhvan lost his eyes. So, it is obvious that

there was tremendous opposition to installing Azhvar

vighrahas and the recitation of Tamil pasurams at the

temple. In the end though, Sri Ramanuja was successful

in bringing Sri Rangam temple administration under the

complete control of Sri Vaishnavas.

Coming back to Swami Sri Desikan's role in reestablishing

the tradition of Adyayana Utsavam started by Kaliyan and

interrupted by Muslim invaders , please refer to 3000

padi GPP by the third Jeeyar of Sri Parakala Matam. The

relevant portions of the text was posted by adiyEn few

weeks ago. To what extent Swami Sri Desikan got involved

(meddled sic) in temple administration is not relevant

here. However, it is abundantly clear that Swami Sri

Desikan did firmly establish the tradition of Adyayana

Utsavam in a manner that cannot be questioned by future

objectors. He did this by engraving the order in stone

(kal vettu). For this, all Sri Vaishnavas at all times

must be indebted to Swami Sri Desikan. Why would anyone

try to downplay Swami's role in this is a mystery.

One last comment, during the Muslim occupation of Sri

Rangam, Swami Sri Desikan protected Srudaprakasika

Commentary for ***Sri Bashyam****.

-- adiyEn ramanuja dasan

srimad azhagiya Singar thiruvadu

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