Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 sri: Srimate Srilakshminrisimha Parabrahmane Nama: Srimate Sri Lakshminrisimha Divyapadukasevaka Srivan Satakopa Sri NarayanaYatindra Mahadesikaya nama: namo narayana! This is in response to Sri Hari's recent note. I am writing this emboldened by his encouragement, " Critiques are welcome. " :-) Swami Vedantha Desikan says in Prabhandha Saram, " andhamilaa AraNangaL nAlAki ninRa adhan karuththai AzhvArgaL Ayndheduththu senthamizhAl aruL seydha ...... " Here, Swami proclaims to everyone that Divya Prabhandham (DP) is the quintessence of the four Vedam. Consider the phrase, " Ayndhu eduththu. " Vedam is a compendium of all sorts of stuff. If we were to study the Vedam, we need to carefully analyze what is important and what is not. But, Swami says, Azhavars have done all that for us. They have separated the grain from the chaff and have offered the essence of what is important in the Vedam to us in the form of DP. In our Ubhaya-Vedanta sampradaym, DP is NOT a translation of Vedam, it is NOT a summary of Vedam, it is the very essence of what is at the core of the Vedam. Our Sampradayam even goes one step further and praises Andal's 30 verses of ThiruppAvai as the very seed of all the Vedam, " .... vEdam aniththukkum viththAgum kOthaith thamizh.... " adiyEn has heard from more than one Vidwan of our Sampradayam that DP can be considered even greater than the four Vedam for many reasons, such as, i) it is accessible to everyone, not just to DivijAs, ii) it is in Tamil and therefore readily understandable to a much large section of the population, iii) DP is about only Sriman Narayana, where as the Vedam deals with lots of topics not all of which are of interest to BhAgavathas, and, iv) unlike the Vedam, DP categorically and unambiguously declares the supremacy of Sriman Narayana. Do not be tempted to dismiss these as mere exaggerations prompted by reverence for DP. A clear understanding of our Sampradayam is possible with a study of just DP under a sadAcharya. However, just a study of Prastana Thraiyam is not sufficient to fully appreciate our Sampradayam. Further, poorvas of our sampradayam have relied upon the study of DP for a clear understanding of the Vedam itself. It is well known in our sampradayam that Swami Bhashyakarar relied heavily on DP for writing Sri Bhashyam. Swami Bhattar is said to have used the esoteric meanings buried in Thirunedundhandgam in his debate with the advaitee who later became Nanjeeyar. Our Sampradayam is replete with references citing the importance of DP for the proper understanding of the Vedam. Thus, DP on its own is a great pramANa balam for us, not just Sampradaya balam. Indeed, DP is not accepted as pramANam by others. But to present a clear and correct interpretation of Vedam and break the athi-vAdam and vidaNdA-vAdam of opponents, our poorvas have relied on DP. Therefore, DP is very much a pramANa balam for our sampradayam. Also, within our Sampradayam, it is enough to cite DP for establishing anything. So, within our Sampradayam. DP is an absolute pramANa balam. In addition, since DP is essential for the proper understanding of the Vedam, and to successfully establish our sampradayam as the parama-vaidika matham, DP is our absolute pramANa balam. When it comes to misinterpretations and exaggerations, they must not be accepted whether it is a misinterpretation of DP or misinterpretation of Prastana Thraiyam. There will not be any dispute that a proper study of Prastana Thraiyam is necessary for neutralizing opponents of sampradayam. But, that is not sufficient. Without the proper study and understanding of Bhagavad Vishayam the knowledge will be incomplete and the vedic arguments offered ineffective. Also, the danger of misinterpretation of DP is very minimum and tends to be in the nature of anubhavam. However, the danger of gross and intolerable misinterpretation of Prastana Thraiyam is quite real and frequent. The fact of the matter is, it is the Prastana Thraiyam that has been, and continues to be, grossly, frequently, and offensively misinterpreted, to this day. From historical facts it is easy to conclude that Prastana Traiyam is more susceptible for misinterpretation than DP. Therefore, it is more apt to say, we need to interpret Prastana Thraiyam within the limits of DP, rather than the other way around. So, let me submit to you, .... the sampradAyam (true purport) as it is in brahma-sUtrams must be ascertained within the limits of the dhivya prabhandham. If it crosses the limits of the Dhivya Prabhandham, then such interpretations will be avaidikam - not vaidikam. It is not my intent to claim superiority for DP over Vedam. That would not be consistent with our Sampradyam. Similarly, our samprdayam does not offer exclusive superiority to Vedam, over the DP. Vedam and DP are like Perumal and Thayar for us. -- adiyEn ramanuja dasan Srimad Azhagiya Singar thiruvadi p.s. [1] I am not implying that all the poorva pakshams adiyEn has stated are views of Sri. Hari. Obviously, the esteem Sri Hari has for DP is second to none. [2] BTW, what happened in Karur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2002 Report Share Posted October 11, 2002 > [2] BTW, what happened in Karur? The prakrutham Sankaracharya of Kanchi Matham, Sri Jayendra Saraswathi Swamigal did not approve of a recent Kumbhabhishekam in Karur where in the mantrams were recited in Tamizh instead of Sanskrit. Swamigal held that it is against the agamAs to do so. He was heavily misquoted by the press. Karunanidhi, the so called Rationalist, condemed Sankarachariar and said that the god who does not understand tamizh has no place in tamizh nadu. Unfortunate mud-slinging by both sides, hurt both languages. -Malolan Cadambi Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 namo narayana Just a clarification. My original note was to emphasize two points, (i) DP is as much a pramANam as Vedam *for Sri Vaishnavas*, and (ii) Brahmma Sutra (BhS) is more susceptible for misinterpretation than DP and hence any interpretation of BhS that crosses the bounds of DP is not Vaideekam. None of the erudite contributions made under this topic contradicts the above. Also, please note, no single text has been accepted as pramANA by everyone. Even vEdam is not universally accepted as pramANam. That has never stopped us from proclaiming Vedam as a foremost authority. Similarly, non-acceptance of DP's authority by non-Sri Vaishnavas cannot deter Sri Vaishnavas from treating DP as a foremost authority equal in prAmANyam to the Vedam. Also, in my understanding, the primary role of pramANam is guidance to seekers of truth, not weaponry against opposition. with best regards, -- adiyEn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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