Guest guest Posted March 8, 2002 Report Share Posted March 8, 2002 dear friends, When i have requested the members to comment upon these slokas, i received quite a few mails giving reasons why they cannot do it. Most of the messages were just that- reasons and excuses and nothing more that. It is vivekananda who said, " if u think u r weak, u r weak. If u think u r strong, u r strong " so simple as that, yeah. Now, i request each of u to reply this message, either substantiating or condemening these slokas . It helps you, me and the society at large. Just a few lines of what you think of the above slokas. There r people who r apprehensive but yes, as long as u know how to type , go ahead and do it. PLeae do it blissfully, voluntarily and not under pressure or force. NOt because I said so but coz u feel so. If u donot feel, go ahead and still do it, coz u may feel it later. They r also another type of people who have lots to say but obviously do not find either words or time for it. If u belong to such type, please reply this message immediately just listing out the points u want to say without much explanation. That saves ur time and/or groppling for words. Never bother for words.It is the feeling and experience which counts. I am interested in YOU and your experiences. Please write about them. thank you kishore http://clubs./clubs/holygita gita_bh my e mail: siva_sai19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2002 Report Share Posted March 15, 2002 Respected Devotee, It must first be recognized that Sri Bhagavad Gita is but a part of the Mahabha:rata, and as a result is a historical work of great significance. Consequently, there is no question of condemning or questioning the relevance of the first 11 slo:kas. We must merely accept that as an appointed court reporter, Sanjaya merely made the report because that is what he had been asked to do by Dhrtara:stra. But, the question arises as to why such historical accounts should be recorded in the Gita, which is clearly a philosophical discussion between Sri Krishna and Arjuna. These have just been easily recorded as a prelude to the Gita, having the Gita start with Arjuna and Krishna on their chariot. I feel that the first 11 verses, and indeed the first chapter, are one of the most important set of slo:kas in the Gita, as they give us insight into the pathos of the human condition and to subtle variances of human character that lead some to God, and others to the futility of self-interested egos. The first eleven verses of the Gita point out this ironic latter state of mind which is the nature of Duryo:dhana. Here he is, a mighty commander-in-chief, a lion-like warrior who has a celebrated history of many battles, who now stands ready to fight with a host of equally worthy and noble heroes. His troops are not just fierce warriors, but in many cases are the very men who trained him to be who he is; and not only that, they are his very kith and kin, his uncles, his cousins, his childhood playmates, who probably supported him through the many battles of personal life as well as war. And here they are, these great heroes, some of whom who have spent their entire life in battle, standing at his side to sacrifice their very life, if needed, in an effort to follow Duryo:dhana's command. And yet, Duryo:dhana is too much wrapped up in himself to see this. While he cannot deny that these men are great heroes, he cannot help but feel that somehow they may still be too inadequate to win this war. Is not this quality not in some ways very similar many human beings, who live our lives chasing pipedream after pipedream all in an effort to win? We want our family, friends, and co-workers to support us through this, but at the same time, we are lost in the desire to make the sweet taste of victory a personal glory. In this false sense of individualistic effort, each war, each project, each family issue, each personal issue, becomes an individual victory or an individual defeat, and as a result, every other person in our lives is seen as someone who wants the same thing, and consequently, no matter how good or supportive he/she is, we cannot help but want to see a hidden agenda or hidden fallacy somewhere. Contrast this with the commander of the opposing troops, Arjuna, who sees the very same faces that Duryo:dhana sees, but feels something comletely different, and I think that you can understand the need for the first eleven slo:kas. I hope this helps. adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Mohan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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