Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Dear Sri Ravishankar,While I can certainly admire and appreciate your dedication and commitment, need I remind you, again, that the Ramanuja Society forum is for learning about the teachings of Bhagavad Sri Ramanuja, particularly in the area of social service and humanitarianism. Swamy Sivananda was a truly great teacher - someone that my father knew personally - so I do not doubt that what he had to say had some spiritual significance. But, to a follower of Sri Vaishnava, God is someone to be known and appreciated rather than something to be realized. I would suggest that you refrain from further postings until others have had an opportunity to respond.adiyenMohanOn 9/6/07, Ravishankar Gopal <ravishankar_g wrote: Dear Members, Spirituality is an exact science. God is a verifiable reality. Samadhi is a living experience. Numerous have been the saints and sages, in every land and clime, who have proclaimed the unmistakable actuality of transcendental spiritual experience. The combined pleasure of all worldly enjoyments is nothing compared to the superlative all-full bliss experienced in Samadhi. That is why the Rishis of yore have defined God as that attaining which nothing else remains to be attained, nothing else remains to be desired. God-realization is the crown of human achievement. God-realization, let me repeat, is the crown of all human attainments. We are born to realize God. Human birth has no greater significance. Human birth is not granted to us that we may consider reaching into space or diving into the ocean depths as the zenith of our endeavors. These are of mundane value and much lesser than mastering one's mind and unfolding one's spiritual potentialities. Detonating nuclear bombs and shooting rockets into space may excite the mind, but they cannot satisfy the spiritual hunger of the people. They cannot bring peace of mind to the human race. In the recent past, science and technology have made tremendous strides for the good as well as for the potential evil of man. They reflect a great spirit of adventure and extraordinary human ingenuity in inventing marvelous devices. The energy is there, the inventive genius is there, the spirit of discovery is there, but, alas, it is all diverted into exclusively material spheres, without taking into consideration the spiritual growth of man. Science has progressed, no doubt, but, at what cost? Science has contributed to the welfare of humanity but its misuse has tragically left in its wake devastation and desolation, fear and moral degradation. Science has taken strides forward and spiritual values of life have deteriorated. Civilization is said to have progressed, but its signs of progress are marred by the increasing number of mental hospitals, divorce courts, juvenile courts, psychiatric clinics and penitentiaries. Stem the tide and change the course. Let there be a balanced progress of science and moral values. Live a balanced life. Manifest the basic virtues in daily life. Take to Yoga. You will reap a rich harvest. You will gain vigour of body, clarity of intellect, peace of mind and enrichment of soul. Yoga is a way of life. It is life in the spirit. Yoga is not a dogma or a creed or a religion. It is the science of life itself, of integral self-development, of harmonious living. Root your life in strong ethical foundations. Without an ethical base, spirituality cannot live. Draw inspiration from the 'Sermon on the Mount.' Control the mind and senses. Purify and expand your heart. Serve the Lord in the suffering. Adapt, adjust, accommodate. The West and the East are no longer strangers to one another. Humanity is gradually waking up to its spiritual responsibility. A powerful force is at work. A spiritual revolution is taking place on a global scale, bringing the East and the West closer. Play your part nobly and well in this revolution of unity, of universal love, of blending science and spirituality for the good of man. May God lead us all from the unreal to the real, from darkness to light, from death to immortality. Regards Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare --------------------- If you have any questions or doubts concerning Spirituality, Mental peace or problems in life or about dharma, please write to us by clicking here: http://www.namadwaar.org/answers/askquestion.php His Holiness Sri Sri Swamiji personally answers these questions for you and suggests prayers. --------------------- For more Namakirtan articles please visit http://guruandnamakirtan.blogspot.com/ ________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Dear sri Ravishankar,I am sorry if I offended you. My only suggestion is that you refrain for sometime such that others can be give time to respond.Just to explain myself further, the philosophy of Ramanuja and his forebearers hold similar views to many Hindu paths with the exception of two clear concepts: 1. The Supreme Being and the soul are distinguishable and distinct2. The individual soul is totally dependent upon the Supreme Being for its very existence, much in the way that an infant is solely dependent her mother. Consequently, any attempt to achieve God realization without the assistance of God is looked upon as going against the very nature of the soul's eternal relationship with God. What the soul can do varies between the two schools of thought that developed long after the time of Ramanuja. I personally feel it is important for all of us to take a comparative and tolerant approach to the many spiritual paths that Hinduism affords, including the one that led to the two unique views presented above. Hence, my suggestion that some allowance be made for others to comment on what you have written. If you still feel that you wish to leave this forum, then I will do so pending your expressing this. Otherwise, please feel free to post on this list in a manner that would generate discussion.adiyenMohan On 9/6/07, Ravishankar Gopal <ravishankar_g wrote: Dear Sri.Mohan, Thanks for your mail, I will definitely adhere to your comments and will stop further postings. Though realization is the Goal of human birth, however if my postings deviates the core of your group beliefs , I am sorry I do not want to be a party to that. Kindly un my e-mail from your group mailing list. However in case of any members would like to receive mails on to their personal e-mail, pl write to me. I thank you sir once again for giving me an opportunity to post which till today has benefitted more than 2000 members and benefitting the people at large apart from your group. Thanks and Regards Radhe Krishna Ravishankar.G --- Mohan <mohan0128 wrote: > Dear Sri Ravishankar, > > While I can certainly admire and appreciate your > dedication and commitment, > need I remind you, again, that the Ramanuja Society > forum is for learning > about the teachings of Bhagavad Sri Ramanuja, > particularly in the area of > social service and humanitarianism. Swamy Sivananda > was a truly great > teacher - someone that my father knew personally - > so I do not doubt that > what he had to say had some spiritual significance. > But, to a follower of > Sri Vaishnava, God is someone to be known and > appreciated rather than > something to be realized. > > I would suggest that you refrain from further > postings until others have had > an opportunity to respond. > > adiyen > Mohan > > On 9/6/07, Ravishankar Gopal > <ravishankar_g wrote: > > > > Dear Members, > > > > Spirituality is an exact science. God is a > verifiable > > reality. Samadhi is a living experience. > > Numerous have been the saints and sages, in every > land > > and clime, who have proclaimed the unmistakable > > actuality of transcendental spiritual experience. > The > > combined pleasure of all worldly enjoyments is > nothing > > compared to the superlative all-full bliss > experienced > > in Samadhi. That is why the Rishis of yore have > > defined God as that attaining which nothing else > > remains to be attained, nothing else remains to be > > desired. God-realization is the crown of human > > achievement. > > God-realization, let me repeat, is the crown of > all > > human attainments. We are born to realize God. > Human > > birth has no greater significance. Human birth is > not > > granted to us that we may consider reaching into > space > > or diving into the ocean depths as the zenith of > our > > endeavors. These are of mundane value and much > lesser > > than mastering one's mind and unfolding one's > > spiritual potentialities. > > Detonating nuclear bombs and shooting rockets into > > space may excite the mind, but they cannot satisfy > the > > spiritual hunger of the people. They cannot bring > > peace of mind to the human race. > > In the recent past, science and technology have > made > > tremendous strides for the good as well as for the > > potential evil of man. They reflect a great spirit > of > > adventure and extraordinary human ingenuity in > > inventing marvelous devices. The energy is there, > the > > inventive genius is there, the spirit of discovery > is > > there, but, alas, it is all diverted into > exclusively > > material spheres, without taking into > consideration > > the spiritual growth of man. > > Science has progressed, no doubt, but, at what > cost? > > Science has contributed to the welfare of humanity > but > > its misuse has tragically left in its wake > devastation > > and desolation, fear and moral degradation. > Science > > has taken strides forward and spiritual values of > life > > have deteriorated. Civilization is said to have > > progressed, but its signs of progress are marred > by > > the increasing number of mental hospitals, divorce > > courts, juvenile courts, psychiatric clinics and > > penitentiaries. > > Stem the tide and change the course. Let there be > a > > balanced progress of science and moral values. > Live a > > balanced life. Manifest the basic virtues in daily > > life. Take to Yoga. You will reap a rich harvest. > You > > will gain vigour of body, clarity of intellect, > peace > > of mind and enrichment of soul. > > Yoga is a way of life. It is life in the spirit. > Yoga > > is not a dogma or a creed or a religion. It is the > > science of life itself, of integral > self-development, > > of harmonious living. Root your life in strong > ethical > > foundations. Without an ethical base, spirituality > > cannot live. Draw inspiration from the 'Sermon on > the > > Mount.' Control the mind and senses. Purify and > expand > > your heart. Serve the Lord in the suffering. > Adapt, > > adjust, accommodate. > > The West and the East are no longer strangers to > one > > another. Humanity is gradually waking up to its > > spiritual responsibility. A powerful force is at > work. > > A spiritual revolution is taking place on a global > > scale, bringing the East and the West closer. Play > > your part nobly and well in this revolution of > unity, > > of universal love, of blending science and > > spirituality for the good of man. > > May God lead us all from the unreal to the real, > from > > darkness to light, from death to immortality. > > > > Regards > > > > Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare > > Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare > Hare > > > --------------------- > > > > If you have any questions or doubts concerning > > Spirituality, Mental peace or problems in life or > > about dharma, please write to us by clicking here: > > http://www.namadwaar.org/answers/askquestion.php > > > > His Holiness Sri Sri Swamiji personally answers > these > > questions for you and suggests prayers. > > > --------------------- > > For more Namakirtan articles please visit > > http://guruandnamakirtan.blogspot.com/ > > > > > ________ > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you > sell. > > http://searchmarketing./ > > > > > ________ oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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