Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 WITNESS-2 -MARKANDEYA MAHARISHI AS A WITNESS Is the term " kari " used by nam AzhwAr. Thamizh is a very rich language.Each word has several meanings. " kari " is one such word. It means coal. It refers an elephant. Here it alludes to sAkshi-witness. swAmi nam-AzhwAr has used this word in poliga-poliga padhigam. He has referred to mArkaNdEya maharishi as a witness. " niRuthi num vuLLthuk koLLum dheivangaL ummai vuyyakkOL, maRuthum avanOdE kaNdEr mArkaNdEyanum kariyEa, kaRutha manam vonRum vENdA kaNNan allAl dheivam illai, iruppadhellAm avan mUrthiyAya avaRkEA iruminEA " thiru voi mozhi 5-2-7 It may be thus observed that mArkaNdEyan has been cited as a witness here in this pAsuram. What for? This is being discussed in the context of, whether other demi-gods can rescue us? For this AzhwAr summons this muni and recalls that event. This pAsuram read with another will throw light on that event. In thiru voi mozhi 7-5-7 " ...vaNduN malarth thongal mArkaNdEyanukku vAzhu nAL, iNdai sadai mudi Esan udan koNdu vusAch chella koNdanguth thannodum koNdu, vudan chenRadhuNarndhumEA " AzhwAr has referred to the same event. It is well known that mArkaNdEayn's parents were granted a boon that they will be granted a wise son but his longevity will be limited. The son was a devotee of shivA. When parents grieved that the death for their son was nearing, mArkaNdEayn told them not to worry and appraoched shivA, whom he had been worshipping all along and requested for further lifetime. shivA displayed his long hair in private, thus enunciating to mArkaNdEayn that he is also a soul like mArkANdEyan and the only person who can rescue him, grant him salvation, full of auspicious qualities is sriman nArAyaNA. The Lord granted him his wish, as if he had been recommended by pirAtti. Edu vyAkyANam is wonderful: " oru nALilE vandhavARE, thalaik kadaiyum puzhaikkadaiyum adaithu, jadaiyai virithuk kAtti,......vunakkOr Asrayanam kAttap pArAi! enRu, avan saulabhyAdhi gunangaLaiyum, mOksha parathvathvAdhi gunangaLaiyum vusAvik koNdu, sarva lOkan pakkalilE chendRAn,.... oru pirAtti purushakAramaga varuvAraik kaik koLLimAp pOlE, kaik kONdu... " The idea here is that the demi-deities cannot help the souls. They cannot grant mOksham or greater long term benefits. They are subservient to the Lord like other souls. For this, the aforementioned mArkaNdEyan's experience is called as a witness. Here the supremacy of the Lord is established and counselling is done by AzhwAr which is aptly mentioned by mAmunikal as " vulagil thirundhAdhar thammai thiruthiya mARan sol " (to be continued) vanamamalai padmanabhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 Sri Padmanabhan, >>shivA displayed his long hair in private, thus enunciating to mArkaNdEayn that he is also a soul like mArkANdEyan and the only >>person who can rescue him, grant him salvation, full of auspicious qualities is sriman nArAyaNA. I would appreciate if you could let me know in detail (on the above) on how Shiva's long hair reflects his limitations when Markandeya approaches him. Thanks for your time. Sukumar Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! nsp [sMTP:aazhwar] 12/11/2003 9:54 PM ramanuja; oppiliappan; vanamamalai Cc: Thiruvengadam Thirumalai; srirangapriya sampath; tmaadhavan WITNESS-2 WITNESS-2 -MARKANDEYA MAHARISHI AS A WITNESS Is the term " kari " used by nam AzhwAr. Thamizh is a very rich language.Each word has several meanings. " kari " is one such word. It means coal. It refers an elephant. Here it alludes to sAkshi-witness. swAmi nam-AzhwAr has used this word in poliga-poliga padhigam. He has referred to mArkaNdEya maharishi as a witness. " niRuthi num vuLLthuk koLLum dheivangaL ummai vuyyakkOL, maRuthum avanOdE kaNdEr mArkaNdEyanum kariyEa, kaRutha manam vonRum vENdA kaNNan allAl dheivam illai, iruppadhellAm avan mUrthiyAya avaRkEA iruminEA " thiru voi mozhi 5-2-7 It may be thus observed that mArkaNdEyan has been cited as a witness here in this pAsuram. What for? This is being discussed in the context of, whether other demi-gods can rescue us? For this AzhwAr summons this muni and recalls that event. This pAsuram read with another will throw light on that event. In thiru voi mozhi 7-5-7 " ...vaNduN malarth thongal mArkaNdEyanukku vAzhu nAL, iNdai sadai mudi Esan udan koNdu vusAch chella koNdanguth thannodum koNdu, vudan chenRadhuNarndhumEA " AzhwAr has referred to the same event. It is well known that mArkaNdEayn's parents were granted a boon that they will be granted a wise son but his longevity will be limited. The son was a devotee of shivA. When parents grieved that the death for their son was nearing, mArkaNdEayn told them not to worry and appraoched shivA, whom he had been worshipping all along and requested for further lifetime. shivA displayed his long hair in private, thus enunciating to mArkaNdEayn that he is also a soul like mArkANdEyan and the only person who can rescue him, grant him salvation, full of auspicious qualities is sriman nArAyaNA. The Lord granted him his wish, as if he had been recommended by pirAtti. Edu vyAkyANam is wonderful: " oru nALilE vandhavARE, thalaik kadaiyum puzhaikkadaiyum adaithu, jadaiyai virithuk kAtti,......vunakkOr Asrayanam kAttap pArAi! enRu, avan saulabhyAdhi gunangaLaiyum, mOksha parathvathvAdhi gunangaLaiyum vusAvik koNdu, sarva lOkan pakkalilE chendRAn,.... oru pirAtti purushakAramaga varuvAraik kaik koLLimAp pOlE, kaik kONdu... " The idea here is that the demi-deities cannot help the souls. They cannot grant mOksham or greater long term benefits. They are subservient to the Lord like other souls. For this, the aforementioned mArkaNdEyan's experience is called as a witness. Here the supremacy of the Lord is established and counselling is done by AzhwAr which is aptly mentioned by mAmunikal as " vulagil thirundhAdhar thammai thiruthiya mARan sol " (to be continued) vanamamalai padmanabhan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Dear sri Sukumar, The display of shivA's long hair is to impress on the fact that he is also a soul like us and the long hair is representative of the fact that he is in the dress of worship -thapas kOlam. A reference to ARAyirappadi will further magnify this point. " mAthA pithAkkaLAlE mahA thapasyanAlapthanAi,anavaradham upalAlidhanAyirinhda mArkaNdEyan, thannudaiya ayurarthamAga rudhranai Asrayikka, avanum " mathsamEhidha sithyarthamAga nAnum parama purushanai nOkki thapasriya paNNi vardhikkiRadhu " enRu solli thannudaiya thapOvEshathaiyum kAtti " ShivA displayed his long hair to impress upon mArkaNdEyan that he is also in the process of worshipping sriman nArAyanA and took mArkaNdEyan alongwith him. A reference to irupathinAlAyirappadi will also highlight this. indai sadai mudi Esan: nedunAl pachaikoNdu pala vELaiyilE " nAnum unnOdu okka sAdhagan kAn " enRu jadaiyai kAttinAn. After having worshipped shivA for a long time, shivA displayed his hair showing him that he is also a worshipper and not worshppable as mArkaNdEyan has thought all along. As seen earlier, these deities get their powers at the pleasure of the Lord and they also worship the LOrd and cannot grant wish they please to the fellow-souls. That they also worship is stated when he shows the hair -symbolising that he is in worhsipping state. The fact that these deities cannot grant wishes is also clearly mentioned by thirumazhisai AzhwAr in thiruchandha vrutham 69 " pENilum varanthara midukkilAdha dhEvarai, Anam adaindhu vAzhum, AdhargAl, em Adhi pAl... " Even if you go on a worhsipping spree with the small deities they are incapable of granting your wishes.Oh!you are not getting your wishes granted by not approaching the Lord. Approaching shivA is like approaching a fellow soul. he is also sailing in the same boat approaching sriman nArAyaNA. it is akin to - a boat with a hole taking rescue in a boat with a leak. " OTTai ODattODu ozhukal ODamum ittanai-yirE ! " (Think of the fleet of the leaking boats with ones with bores ! " Hope this clarifies the position. vanamamalai padmanabhan - sukumar <sukumar <Vanamamalai >; <aazhwar Wednesday, November 19, 2003 5:17 PM FW: WITNESS-2 > Sri Padmanabhan, > > >>shivA displayed his long hair in private, thus enunciating to mArkaNdEayn > that he is also a soul like mArkANdEyan and the only >>person who can > rescue him, grant him salvation, full of auspicious qualities is sriman > nArAyaNA. > > I would appreciate if you could let me know in detail (on the above) on > how Shiva's long hair reflects his limitations when Markandeya approaches > him. > > Thanks for your time. > > > Sukumar > > > Sri Krishnaparabrahmane Namah! > > > > > > nsp [sMTP:aazhwar] > 12/11/2003 9:54 PM > ramanuja; oppiliappan; vanamamalai > Cc: Thiruvengadam Thirumalai; srirangapriya sampath; tmaadhavan > WITNESS-2 > > WITNESS-2 -MARKANDEYA MAHARISHI AS A WITNESS > > > Is the term " kari " used by nam AzhwAr. Thamizh is a very rich language.Each > word has several meanings. " kari " is one such word. > It means coal. It refers an elephant. Here it alludes to sAkshi-witness. > > swAmi nam-AzhwAr has used this word in poliga-poliga padhigam. He has > referred to mArkaNdEya maharishi as a witness. > > " niRuthi num vuLLthuk koLLum dheivangaL ummai vuyyakkOL, > maRuthum avanOdE kaNdEr mArkaNdEyanum kariyEa, > kaRutha manam vonRum vENdA kaNNan allAl dheivam illai, > iruppadhellAm avan mUrthiyAya avaRkEA iruminEA " thiru voi mozhi 5-2-7 > > It may be thus observed that mArkaNdEyan has been cited as a witness here > in this pAsuram. What for? This is being discussed in the context of, > whether other demi-gods can rescue us? For this AzhwAr summons this muni > and recalls that event. This pAsuram read with another will throw light on > that event. In thiru voi mozhi 7-5-7 > > " ...vaNduN malarth thongal mArkaNdEyanukku vAzhu nAL, iNdai sadai mudi Esan > udan koNdu vusAch chella > koNdanguth thannodum koNdu, vudan chenRadhuNarndhumEA " AzhwAr has referred > to the same event. > > > It is well known that mArkaNdEayn's parents were granted a boon that they > will be granted a wise son but his longevity will be limited. The son was a > devotee of shivA. When parents grieved that the death for their son was > nearing, mArkaNdEayn told them not to worry and appraoched shivA, whom he > had been worshipping all along and requested for further lifetime. shivA > displayed his long hair in private, thus enunciating to mArkaNdEayn that he > is also a soul like mArkANdEyan and the only person who can rescue him, > grant him salvation, full of auspicious qualities is sriman nArAyaNA. The > Lord granted him his wish, as if he had been recommended by pirAtti. Edu > vyAkyANam is wonderful: > " oru nALilE vandhavARE, thalaik kadaiyum puzhaikkadaiyum adaithu, jadaiyai > virithuk kAtti,......vunakkOr Asrayanam kAttap pArAi! enRu, avan > saulabhyAdhi gunangaLaiyum, mOksha parathvathvAdhi gunangaLaiyum vusAvik > koNdu, sarva lOkan pakkalilE chendRAn,.... oru pirAtti purushakAramaga > varuvAraik kaik koLLimAp pOlE, kaik kONdu... " > > The idea here is that the demi-deities cannot help the souls. They cannot > grant mOksham or greater long term benefits. They are subservient to the > Lord like other souls. For this, the aforementioned mArkaNdEyan's > experience is called as a witness. > > Here the supremacy of the Lord is established and counselling is done by > AzhwAr which is aptly mentioned by mAmunikal as > " vulagil thirundhAdhar thammai thiruthiya mARan sol " > (to be continued) > vanamamalai padmanabhan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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