Guest guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 Srimathe ramanujaya Namaha Srimad Vara Vara munayE Namaha “Srivatsa chinha misrEbhyO nama ukthim matheemahE  Yatustraya trayee kantE yAnti mangala sUtrathAm†Question (3): What is punya (good deeds) and Papa (bad deeds) as per swamy koorathAzhvan?  Thanks to Sri Ranganathan for taking part in this divine acharya kainkaryam through his wonderful reply. “yat tvat priyam tadhiha puNyam apunyam anyat nAnyat tayOr bhavathi lakshaNam athra jAthu 1 dhoorththAyithum tava hi yat kila rAsaghOstiyAm tat keerthanam paramapAvana mAmananthi 11†[AthimAnushastavam-52]  Word by word meaning  eha – in this world; yat – that which; tvat priyam – gives you pleasure; tat punyam – that is punyam (good deed); anyat – all others; apunyam – is papam (bad deed); tayO: - to that punya and papa; athra – in this world; anyat lakshaNam – anyother definition; jAtu – perpetually; na bhavathi – will not hold good; rAsaghostiyAm – During the rasa leela; tava dhoorththayitum yat kila – all your so called misdeeds; tat keerthanam – singing those happenings; parama pAvanam – is very sacred; Amananthi kila – declare the maharishis;  Question (4) for the next posting: “Is there something in this world that even the divine couples (sarvagjas) are not aware of?†Find the answer in one of swamy koorathAzhvan’s panchastavam slokas.  Dear Bhagavathas,  A Humble request: It will be a interesting learning if more of you take part in this divine discussion thereby in Azhvan's kainkaryam.  To know more about Sahasravarusham celebrations visit www.kuresan.com or www.vedics.org Asmad gurubhyo NamahaAdiyen ramanuja dAsan/dAseeVaradarajan/Sumithra On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Ranganathan Ramaswamy <ramaswamy.ranganathan wrote: Srimathe Ramanujaya NamahaSri Kooresaya NamahaSrimath Varavaramunaye NamahaSri Vanamahachala mahamunibhyo NamahaWhat is punya (good deeds) and Papa (bad deeds) as per swamy koorathAzhvan? The answer to this question appears in the 53rd verse of Athimanusha sthavam.Two concerns regarding good deeds and bad ones are addressed here. 1. There is a lot of confusion in the world regarding what is good and what is bad. There are plenty of perceptions and opinions, that makes it nearly impossible for us to qualify many actions as either good or bad. This is due to ignorance. The same action can be deemed good or bad under different circumstances. For example, there is a world of difference between the way in which an activity is perceived, when it is performed by a baby/kid and by an adult. If the correctness of an action depends upon individuals, their station in life, circumstances and many other such parameters, it complicates the process of ascribing benign or malign tendencies to an action. ( This is not uncommon. Even Arjuna went through this dilemma on the battle-field of Kurukshetra. Geethartha sangraham of Swami Alavandar -5 : asthaanasnehakaarunya dharmaadharmadhiyaakulam paartham.... -> referring to Arjuna who was bewildered while deciding what is dharma and what is adharma) 2. The play-ful pass-times of the Lord especially as Krishna are enjoyed all over the world. But, even in the minds of some devotees, confusion may arise with respect to some actions of the Lord - the raasakreeda for instance. A question may continue to linger if such actions can be acceptable from the One, who establishes and protects dharma in this world. (dharma samsthapanaarthaaya sambhavaami) The above two confusions could appear highly complicated to resolve, due to our ignorance and wavering perceptions. Just as an unrestrained horse pulls a chariot violently in random directions, our minds could be drawn to several unworthy conclusions, none leading to the essential truth. Swami Koorathazhwan enlightens and redeems us by resolving the complication, stating a seemingly simple, yet fundamental and cardinal truth. " yat tadvat priyam tadiha punyam apunyam anyat naanyat tayorbhavati lakshanam atra jaatu " Meaning: In all, whichever is desirable/like-able to You(Lord), is deemed punyam or good deed and the rest(whichever is not desirable to You) are deemed apunyam or bad deeds. There is no other way to qualify deeds as good or bad in this world. The meaning established by Swami Azhwan has two consequences:1. Irrespective of the number and degree of parameters influencing an action, an action is understood to be good or bad simply depending on whether it would make Emperuman feel pleased or pain His thiruvullam. 2. All actions of Emperuman must be understood to be good, sacred, divine and pure without any reservation.Other explanations to the above confusions are only supplementary. The principle established by Swami Aazhwan is essential and complete. dasan,ranganathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 adiyen think that azhvan gives samadhanam as to how the divine couples do not know of the limit (Ellai) of their guNams. Can they not be aware of something, being sarvagjas?! An intelligent person would not be aware of a hare with 5 legs - because there is no such thing. Similarly, since there is no end/limit to peruman's guNams, there is no point in divine couples being aware of it; limit does not exist. adiyen dasan. > Question (4) for the next posting: “Is there something in this > world that even the divine couples (sarvagjas) are not aware of?†> Find the answer in one of swamy koorathAzhvan’s panchastavam slokas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 (Note: It should read divine 'couple', not coupleS. ] adiyen dasan. Vanamamalai , " adiyenraghu " <adiyenraghu wrote: > > adiyen think that azhvan gives samadhanam as to how the divine couples do not know of the limit (Ellai) of their guNams. Can they not be aware of something, being sarvagjas?! > An intelligent person would not be aware of a hare with 5 legs - because there is no such thing. Similarly, since there is no end/limit to peruman's guNams, there is no point in divine couples being aware of it; limit does not exist. > > adiyen dasan. > > > Question (4) for the next posting: “Is there something in this > > world that even the divine couples (sarvagjas) are not aware of?†> > Find the answer in one of swamy koorathAzhvan’s panchastavam slokas. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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