Guest guest Posted May 22, 2002 Report Share Posted May 22, 2002 sri: sri Devarajan Swamin: Please accept adiyEn's humble pranams. I went through the pdf file that you posted on msg 24 this morning and was a bit shocked, as the Thenkalai View is very incorrect in that document. We are sure the your note is not intentional, and hence writing this: 1. You had mentioned ThenAcharyas negate the need for Prapatti, this is wrong. ThenAcharya Sampradaya also only Prapatti (For Thenacharya it happens during the time of Samashreyanam) But we (thenacharyas) say that it is HIS nirhetuka Kripa that allows us to even take to a qulaified Achryan and perform prapatti. So both do prapatti: Thanacharya along with Samashreyanam. and the Deiska Sampradyam later or before samashreyanam. ThenAcharya: It is by Lord's divine grace that we even do this so its not our doing. Vadakala: It is a concious effort on the Jiva's part. (Please the above is wrong please correct, this is as per Puttur Swami, PBA Swami's works) 2: Re: Thayar being Jeeva or Paramathma. Dear Devotee friends: Previous 2 generations has seen a few scholars spend their life (40 or so years) towards this point (Is there one Supreme Soul, or Two Supreme Souls) and to prove one is better than the other. These great Scholarship could have been used better, Thenkalais still hold they are Real Vaishnavas & Vadakalais do the same. The docrtinal differrences could be looked at to understand the differrences, Please forgive adiyen for posting what was in my heart, in the sense of doing justice in this Internet world, we have to be careful of Mis-information being spread. The other day we read a article that hinted that greatness of Swami desikan was in the Phala struti (Imagine how Swami Desikan would feel if he come and read that article now) Bring down the great Desika's works to Phalans. What a degradation of a great Acharya. Let us try to be truthful to purvacharyas and the message handed down by Lord to Sri. Sri to........ To Ramanuja If we write things on our own, as many of the devotees are doing these days, we will err in the message (as we are human and our understanding is limited) So let us not write anything on our (Unless of course you feel you have become like Swami (refers to Ramanuja) or Azhwar (refers to Nammazhwar). Even this line above, is not what adiyEn says it is said by many purvacharyas: Nampillai, and then later by Mamunigal's works on this know to adiyEN. azhwAr emberumAnAr JeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan Mukundan Vangkipuram Pattangi http://www.radioramanuja.com/docs/mag.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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