Sri Velukkudi krishnan's (VK) recent Baharin visit

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Forwarded Mail from a Baharin satsang member as follows:

Praveena, India

namo narayana. adiyen's pranamams.

In my earlier mail adiyen has mentioned about Sri Velukkudi krishnan's (VK) misleading remarks on Srimad Ramayana and it continued further. That apart, he has shown his true colour and how much dhevesham he has towards followers of Sri Desika sampradayam was very obvious. adiyen hopes that i am not commiting any bhagavatha apacharam towards him but certain facts are to be shared with you.

VK was trying to change the routine sarrumurai which we follow in Bahrain it appears. You know Sri Azhagappan very well. He goes to any extent to accomodate all the bhagavatha's requests to have collective satsangh and he and his wife never hurt any one's feelings. Sri Azhagappan insisted that the sarrumurai of T also to be recited on sravanams and just to respect him we have agreed for this. Now when VK tried to change this telling you should not recite Tat vishno.. etc bhagavathas of desika sampradayam politely clarified that what we do is exactly as per the sampradayam and VK with lots of nakkal asked for proof. This was shown to him. This has made him furious. We have asked him to show the evidence to follow the few unknown mangala slokas that he was trying to impose on us. He could not do so and asked the local Tenkalai's for evidence. Since this was not coming, he started shouting stating that he is such a great scholar and people are asking for evidence and what is my status etc

We have noticed that he gets wild whenever we ask any questions. Instead of clarifying the doubt, he replies in sarcasm and it really hurts. All the tenkalai's were trying to have a separate meeting and unfortunately adiyen happened to be with him at this time as I was requested to drop him at his place. Incidently he was staying with Sri Raghu (Rama of Thiruvanmiyur).When question came about prapatti, he again gave wrong explanation about our stand on this. adiyen did not argue with him.

VK appears to be after money. Sorry to say this. He came with lots of CDs and his recent book and made a stall in the lecture hall that was entrusted to a T. (This has created confusion as many bhagavaths have purchased cds and did not donate the group telling that all are one and the same. But VK refused even to disclose the collection stating that we have no business to know about this collection).All the bhagavathas who worked hard for the visit of VK are V's and Srinivasan (you know them).Azhagappan and Srinivasan's untiring efforts in the last 6 months have resulted in successful tour of VK. Six or seven bhagavathas have worked hard collecting money and arranging every thing for the upanyasam tour. There are two T's (one is from azhvar thirunagari and another from chennai) who were trying to be with him all the time and complained about every one of us.

I am one of his target this time. He did not like our humble attempts doing kaimkaryams for temples for nitya aradanam. He did not like me to have a web site. adiyen is teaching stotras and nityanusandham for the past 18 months here and this was not to his liking. He was very harsh to me and complianed about me to every one. adiyen told that I am ready to clarify any of his doubts about these little kaimkaryams with him directly if he is asking me. VK is a politician and he did not have guts to ask me directly.

I am coming the climax. On last satarday he spoke on Vishnu sahasranamam at sri azhagappan's house and sambhavana was given to him for the construction of kulasekara azhvar temple in kerala. Sri Azhagappan told that 3.2 lacs is being given from bahrain.A cover was given to him. Next day morning immediately after the discourse he told in public that only a check for 54k is there in the cover and the pledged amount is coming to only 2.2 and not 3.2 as promised. Every one was shocked.

In the evening the committee members have clarified that 2.2 is the collection by the committee and another l lac is from Sadagopan (T from azhvar thirunagari. He did not want to donate to the group for collective remittance).This was explained in person to him on earlier occasion but they did not include his name in the typed list. He was furious and started shouting at us stating that he is a charted accountant and ran three companies by himself and we are trying to fool him etc etc.

The discussion went bittter and bitter and sri azhagappan was almost in tears and he swore on God to plead his ignorence and he could not even speak cohesively in that tension. VK cornered every one with his sharp tounge (naakil sani). The group members after working hard for more than 4 months and in the last one week hardly slept between his night and early morning upanyasam were stunned.

Last year VK was invited to every one's house (except me since he refused to come since lakshmi was down with jaundice and he thought that he will also catch this if he came) and got good presents for him and his children. This year this did not happen. VK bought gold for 400 dinars and expected the group to bear the cost. Srinivasan was firm in donating only to the kulasekara azhvar project and not these sort of give off. All this made him angry.

Finally he left a very bad image for all srivaishnavas. He has done injustice to all upanyasakars as he did not practice what he preaches. Every one is hurt and still trying hard to digest his behaviour.

adiyen is aware of him from your mails and did not share them earlier since no one would have beleived me and you. Now VK has shown his colour and his real intensions.

Keep this with you and he has made enough confusion in dubai too two years back as i came to know now. We must bring this to the attention of our acharya. We are too nice with these people praising them in our magazine and trying not to hurt them. In turn they are even willing to destroy us for the sake of their sampradayam. Sorry to say this. Though this is confidential please share with our acharya if situation arises and thinking of writing to vaishnava magizines too. In dubai he has even told not to recite ramanuja daya patram since it was made by a human being unlike the srisaileesa daya patram which was given by ranganatha. Can u believe this?

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Dear Ms. Praveena Satyan,

Thanks for bringing up this issue. Your mail was sent to Sri

Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy (with the intention that if indeed it is

true, Swamy had to change and if the allegations were unfounded then

such malicious intent should be quelled in the interest of our

sampradAyam). He had forwarded it to the Bahrain Satsangh members who

had arranged Swamy's visit.

Following is the reply from Satsangh members. It is only fair to

post it here to clear the issues. Let us not spew personal opinions

to hurt ourselves.

 

Regards

dAsan,

SoundararAjan

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SRI:

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namha

 

Respected Swamiji,

Please accept our respectful & humble obeisances.pl find the attached

statement written by three of us.

with regards,

anban Raamanuja dasan

azhagappan

 

 

VELUKKUDI SWAMI'S VISIT TO BAHRAIN

 

We Azhagappan, Srinivasan & Raghunathan would like to clarify the

following issues with regard to swamiji's visit to Bahrain.

 

In one of the mail groups some unwanted comments have been made and

it has hurt the feelings of many and hence this clarification. We

invited Swamiji to Bahrain to deliver discourses on Ramayanam, Artha

Panchakam, Daya Sathakam, KulaSekara Azlwar Vaibhavam, YathiRaja

Vimsathi Etc to reinforce our faith in Sriman. Narayana and to

propagate Ramanuja Siddhantham.

 

Swamiji's lectures helped us to increase our Bhakthi and to repose

our faith in the Lord. His lectures were so beautiful and the people

who attended were captivated by his knowledge and delivery. The

feedback from the Sathsangh members and from the general public was

overwhelming. " An outstanding success " , is the sum up of his visit.

 

As for the issues raised in that mail:

 

We never felt that Swamiji had any Dhwesham towards Sri.Desika

Sampradhayam followers. On the other hand he extensively quoted Swami

Desikan which was well received by the audience. To our memory not a

single word was spoken against Swami Desikan either in the Upanyasams

or in private discussions.

 

With regard to Saatrumurai Swamiji advised that Tatvishno: is not

recited by every one since it is from Vedas. Regarding Mangala slokas

Swamiji said it is to be recited by the Archakar and recited in

SriSannidhi also. Some of our friends referred books and showed it to

Swamiji and he asked us to go by the book if that be the case. His

remarks were not sarcastic (Nakkal).

 

Also he did not want to be dragged in local issues and since we asked

his opinion he gave it to the best of his knowledge.

 

In that mail it is said that Swamiji is after money which we strongly

disagree with. In fact he did not demand anything nor we promised

anything in advance. There was some miscommunication with regard to

one devotee's collection which Swamiji wanted to correct and was

done as per his wish.

 

Apart from that no differnce of opinion cropped up.

 

As for the gold purchase mentioned, Swamiji borrowed money for

buying and he promptly returned the same.Regarding divya desha

Kaimkaryams Swamiji wanted that devotee to continue and he gave some

tips to him in the presence of one of the writers (Raghunathan) of

this mail.

 

We don't agree with the interpretations and insinuations raised

thro' the other points in that mail,which was highly critical

of Swamiji's visit to Bahrain and was not in good taste bordering

on

mudslinging and slander.

 

desikasampradaya , Praveena Satyan

<satyan_praveena2000> wrote:

> Forwarded Mail from a Baharin satsang member as follows:

> Praveena, India

> namo narayana. adiyen's pranamams.

>

> In my earlier mail adiyen has mentioned about

> Sri Velukkudi krishnan's (VK) misleading remarks

> on Srimad Ramayana and it continued further. That

> apart, he has shown his true colour and how much

> dhevesham he has towards followers of Sri Desika

> sampradayam was very obvious. adiyen hopes that

> i am not commiting any bhagavatha apacharam towards

> him but certain facts are to be shared with you.

>

> VK was trying to change the routine sarrumurai which we

> follow in Bahrain it appears. You know Sri Azhagappan

> very well. He goes to any extent to accomodate all the

> bhagavatha's requests to have collective satsangh and he

> and his wife never hurt any one's feelings. Sri Azhagappan

> insisted that the sarrumurai of T also to be recited on

> sravanams and just to respect him we have agreed for

> this. Now when VK tried to change this telling you should

> not recite Tat vishno.. etc bhagavathas of desika sampradayam

> politely clarified that what we do is exactly as per the

> sampradayam and VK with lots of nakkal asked for proof.

> This was shown to him. This has made him furious. We have

> asked him to show the evidence to follow the few unknown

> mangala slokas that he was trying to impose on us. He could

> not do so and asked the local Tenkalai's for evidence. Since

> this was not coming, he started shouting stating that he is such a

> great scholar and people are asking for evidence and what is

> my status etc

>

> We have noticed that he gets wild whenever we ask any questions.

> Instead of clarifying the doubt, he replies in sarcasm and it

really hurts.

> All the tenkalai's were trying to have a separate meeting and

> unfortunately adiyen happened to be with him at this time as I was

> requested to drop him at his place. Incidently he was staying with

> Sri Raghu (Rama of Thiruvanmiyur).When question came about

> prapatti, he again gave wrong explanation about our stand on this.

> adiyen did not argue with him.

>

> VK appears to be after money. Sorry to say this. He came with lots

> of CDs and his recent book and made a stall in the lecture hall

that

> was entrusted to a T. (This has created confusion as many

bhagavaths

> have purchased cds and did not donate the group telling that all

are

> one and the same. But VK refused even to disclose the collection

> stating that we have no business to know about this collection).All

the

> bhagavathas who worked hard for the visit of VK are V's and

Srinivasan

> (you know them).Azhagappan and Srinivasan's untiring efforts in the

last

> 6 months have resulted in successful tour of VK. Six or seven

> bhagavathas have worked hard collecting money and arranging every

> thing for the upanyasam tour. There are two T's (one is from azhvar

> thirunagari and another from chennai) who were trying to be with

him

> all the time and complained about every one of us.

>

> I am one of his target this time. He did not like our humble

attempts

> doing kaimkaryams for temples for nitya aradanam. He did not like

> me to have a web site. adiyen is teaching stotras and

nityanusandham

> for the past 18 months here and this was not to his liking. He was

> very harsh to me and complianed about me to every one. adiyen told

> that I am ready to clarify any of his doubts about these little

> kaimkaryams with him directly if he is asking me. VK is a

politician

> and he did not have guts to ask me directly.

>

> I am coming the climax. On last satarday he spoke on Vishnu

> sahasranamam at sri azhagappan's house and sambhavana was given

> to him for the construction of kulasekara azhvar temple in kerala.

> Sri Azhagappan told that 3.2 lacs is being given from bahrain.A

> cover was given to him. Next day morning immediately after the

> discourse he told in public that only a check for 54k is there in

the

> cover and the pledged amount is coming to only 2.2 and not 3.2

> as promised. Every one was shocked.

>

> In the evening the committee members have clarified that 2.2 is the

> collection by the committee and another l lac is from Sadagopan

> (T from azhvar thirunagari. He did not want to donate to the group

> for collective remittance).This was explained in person to him on

> earlier occasion but they did not include his name in the typed

list.

> He was furious and started shouting at us stating that he is a

> charted accountant and ran three companies by himself and we are

> trying to fool him etc etc.

>

> The discussion went bittter and bitter and sri azhagappan was

> almost in tears and he swore on God to plead his ignorence and he

> could not even speak cohesively in that tension. VK cornered every

> one with his sharp tounge (naakil sani). The group members after

> working hard for more than 4 months and in the last one week hardly

> slept between his night and early morning upanyasam were stunned.

>

> Last year VK was invited to every one's house (except me since he

> refused to come since lakshmi was down with jaundice and he thought

> that he will also catch this if he came) and got good presents for

him

> and his children. This year this did not happen. VK bought gold for

> 400 dinars and expected the group to bear the cost. Srinivasan was

> firm in donating only to the kulasekara azhvar project and not

these

> sort of give off. All this made him angry.

>

> Finally he left a very bad image for all srivaishnavas. He has done

> injustice to all upanyasakars as he did not practice what he

preaches.

> Every one is hurt and still trying hard to digest his behaviour.

>

> adiyen is aware of him from your mails and did not share them

earlier

> since no one would have beleived me and you. Now VK has shown

> his colour and his real intensions.

>

> Keep this with you and he has made enough confusion in dubai too

> two years back as i came to know now. We must bring this to the

> attention of our acharya. We are too nice with these people

praising

> them in our magazine and trying not to hurt them. In turn they are

> even willing to destroy us for the sake of their sampradayam. Sorry

> to say this. Though this is confidential please

> share with our acharya if situation arises and thinking of writing

to

> vaishnava magizines too. In dubai he has even told not to recite

> ramanuja daya patram since it was made by a human being unlike

> the srisaileesa daya patram which was given by ranganatha. Can

> u believe this?

>

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