Fw: Perumal in five forms( Param, VyUham, Vihavam, Archa and antharyAmi) and water

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Dear BhakthAs:

 

I almost forgot this posting based on an outstanding

UpanyAsam by HH SrI PoundarIkapuram Andavan

some five years ago.Because of the importance of the subject ,

I am copying the lists. Thanks to SrI MadhavakkaNNan for

the reminder .

 

Once a month , HH SrImad Andavan blesses us with

UpanyAsams on SrI RanganAtha Paadhuka Sahasram .

The most recent one was a beautiful one dealing with

the final three paasurams of Naadha Paddhathi with

subtle SaasthrArTams. Please contact SrIman Murali

Rangaswamy , if you wish to join in these insightful

monthly upanyAsams .

 

V.Sadagopan

-

" srivaishnavan " <srivaishnavan

 

Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:26 AM

Re: Perumal in five forms and water

 

 

> SrI: "

> Dear Sri Malolan

>

> I believe it should be five forms of waters (and not Solid liquid or

> gas- as they are NOT forms of waters... :-) I may be wrong)...

>

> There are comparisons of waters like AvaraNa jalam, the fountai

> waters, the well waters, etc.. to the five forms....

> AsmadhAchAryan His Holiness Srimath PaRavaakkOTTai Andavan swami had

> mentioned in one of tele upanyasams in 99... about the same and Sri

> SatakOpan mama (of New york) beautifully translated the same into

> English for everyone'e enjoyment:

>

> I have reproduced the same (collected from my archives):

>

> The superiority of ArchA rUpam among Sriman NarAyaNA's

> pancha rUpams ( param , VyUham , Vibhavam , antharyAmi

> and ArchA ).

>

> Parama padham , where the Lord is resident as

> Parama padha nAthan is surrounded by the aNDams and

> the aavaraNam waters (Oceans ) . It is not of easy access

> to us residing on earth . We can not travel there even to

> get a vessel filled with aavaranam waters .It is too far away .

> Hence param and parama padham can not be enjoyed with

> our sthUla sarIram . Only as a muktha Jivan possesing

> Sookshma sarIram , one can enter and enjoy the anthamil

> pErinbham there .

>

> The second rUpam of the Lord is as Sesha saayee in

> the middle of the milky ocean .Here He is presenting

> Himself as KshIrAbhdhi nAthan to DevAs and maharishis .

> Again , this is beyond our reach with SthUla sarIram .

> hence , it is not of much use either for us to see

> and enjoy .

>

> The Third rUpam of the Lord is what has been

> celebrated as Raama , KrishNAvathArams . These Vinhava

> avathArams were enjoyed by those who were contemproaries .

> Today , it is histroy and we can not enjoy Lord KrishNA as

> Gopis and AkrUrar did . Thus this rUpam is in the past

> like last year's river water , which is no longer available

> to quench our thirst ( dried up river bed ).

>

> The fourth rUpam is antharyAmi savrUpam . It is likened

> to OoRRu jalam . You have to dig in the river bed sand and

> access the water under . Through the difficult JNa~na Yogam ,

> one can visualize this svarUpam of the Divya dampathis

> seated in our heart cavities . Very few have the power

> to succeed in such efforts and thus , this svarUpam is

> also not within reach of ordinary folks on this earth .

>

> The fifth rUpam is the One that Sriman NaarAyaNan

> took to make Himself easily available to one and all

> and to enjoy Him with our own sthUla sarIram and

> Maamsa chakshus . No divya dhrushti as

> needed by ArjunA is a must to see the VisvarUpam of

> the Lord . " angu vaitthu , inghE piRanthathu " is

> the celebration of this ArchAvathAram by Eedu grantham .

>

> Srimath Andavan went on to describe the five

> rUpams celebrated by Vedams in the manthram

> in the manner of tamizh maRai :

>

> ambhasya paarE bhuvanasya madhyE

> naakasya prushtE mahathO mahIyAn

> sukrENa jyOthIgumshi samanupravishta:

> PrajApathisccharathi garbhE antha :

> -- TaittirIya AaraNyakam : III.13.3

>

> In ParAvathAram , the Lord is in Sri Vaikuntam

> as para VaasudEvan enjoying the Saama ghAnam .

> Therefore it is described as Paattu kEtkumidam .

> It is not accessible to us ; we can not hear this

> music with our Maamsa karnams .

>

> In VyUham , Lord rests on the serpent bed

> enjoying His yOga NidhrA .He is rudely awakned

> by all the terror stricken devAs , who seek

> His interventiion and complain about the terrors

> inflicted on them by the asurAs . He has to come to

> help after listeing to their fear-laden prayers

> ( muRaidal iDam ). This far off place is also

> inaccessible to us .We can not get there to appeal

> to Him to intervene and help us from our afflictions.

> Therefore Vyuha Moorthy is off limits for us.

>

> Vibahva avathArams are known as kuthittha iDam .

> Lord NarasimhA jumped out of the pillar and

> performed His avathAra Kaaryam and can no longer

> be seen in His original vibhava form .

>

> AntharyAmi svarUpam is known as OottumiDam .

> It is a svarUpam exclusively seen by those ,

> who have succeeded in their Jn~ana Yoga saadhanais.

> It is again out of reach for us .

>

> ArchA SvarUpam is known as VaLaittha iDam .

> Here , the Lord ahs become very accessible to us

> and rests at Srirangam suggestign that He would not

> leave us until all of our Paapams are removed .

> He patiently waits for us to get SadAchArya Sambhandham

> and come to Him . AzhwArs and AchAryAs enjoyed the ArchA

> mUrthys at the various divya desams and stated unequivocally

> that it is their prefeered choice among the five prakAra

> rUpams of Sriman NaarAyaNan .

>

> It is interesting to note that para VaasudEvan

> gives us sEvai on the PraNava VimAnam

> at Srirangam , VyUha Moorthy is seen

> as Archai at Srirangam , Anbil , Thirukkudanthai

> et al , Vibhava Moorthys are present in

> the ArchA form at ThiruevuLL ( Sri Veera Raaghavan ),

> Dwarakai ( KrishNan ), AhObilam ( Narasimhan ) et al.

>

> AzhwArs and AchAryAl's assertion of their

> preference for the archA form of the Lord

> over all the other Four forms are abundant .

> Srimath Andavan quoted a few of them .

> I have added a few moreto illustrate his point :

>

> icchuvai taviRa yaan pOy Indira lokamALum

> achuvai peRinum vENDEn Arangamaa naharuLAnE

> -- ThirumAlai of ThindaradipoDi : 2nd Paasuram

>

> aNdavANanarangan , van pEy mulai

> uNDa vAyanRanunmatthan kANminE

> -- KulasEkharar : PerumAL Thirumozhi:3.4

>

> sempavaLa vaayan ThiruvEnkatamennum

> EmperumAn Ponn malai mEl yEthEnum aavEnE

> --- Kulasekharar : PerumAL Thirumozhi : 4.10

>

> AanDAi unaik KaaNpathOr aruLenaakaruLithiyEl

> vENDEn manai vAzhkhayai ViNNagar MEyavanE

> -- Thirumangai's Paasuram on ThiruviNNagarAn

> Manai means here Sri Vaikuntam .

>

> athraiva sukhamAsva

> -- Sri RanganAthA's instruction to AchArya RaamAnujA

>

> nirantharam nirvisatha : tvadhIyam

> asprushta chinthA padham aapirupyam

> satyam sapE Vaarana sailanAtha

> vaikunta vaasEpi na mEabhilAsha :

> --Swaami Desikan , Sri VaradharAja-

> PanchAsath: 49th slOkam

>

> Here Swami Desikan that he has no desire

> to reside in Sri Vaikuntam since he has the bhAgyam

> to enjoy the unparalleled beauty of Sri

> VaradarAjan right here in His archA form on top of

> Hasthigiri .He swears that he prefers

> Kaanchi Vaasam to have the Sevai of Lord VaradarAjA

> over residence in Sri VaikuntanAthan .

>

> That is the glory of ArchA rUpam for us

> as revealed by our AzhwArs and AchAryAs .

>

> Lord Ramachandra in His vibhavAvathAram

> performed AarAdhanam to Sri RanganAthA

> in ArchA form at AyOddhi . That is the

> highest form of tribute that one can

> come across regarding the celebration of

> ArchA rUpam as the most enjoyable by

> us on earth among all the five prAkarams

> of Sriman NaaraayaNan .

>

> AzhwAr AchAryan ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam

> Daasan , Oppiliappan Koil VaradAchAri SadagOpan

>

>

> , Malolan Cadambi <mcadambi>

> wrote:

> > Sri

> >

> > I recently read somewhere that a Sri Vaishnava acharya (?) opined

> > that the five states of perumAl (para, vyuha, archa, antaryamI etc)

> > can be compared to states of water (solid, liquid, gaseous etc).

> >

> > I would like more information in detailed about this.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Malolan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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