Guest guest Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 SrI: SrImathE Gopaladesika mahadesikaya namah: Dearest Srivaishnavas, We appear to ask AzhwAr: Just like Vaishnava matham, Saivites also exist in the world; why do you tell Sriman Narayanan's greatness and Supremacy alone-AzhwAr replies [as if the Lord Himself asks] : That needs to established with the help of statements from scholars and Vedaanthins who prove Your Supremacy with pramANam (proof) from Saasthras and Vedas effortlessly and very easily. thaathulaavu konRaimaalai thunnucheNYcha daichchivan, neethiyaalva NaNGkupaatha ninmalaa!n^i laayaseer vEthavaaNar keethavELvi neethiyaana vELviyaar, neethiyaal vaNangukinRa neermain^in_kaN ninRathE (9) Oh Lord- akilalahEyaprathyaneeka! (one who is devoid of any imperfections!) ananthakalyANa guNaarnavaa! (Lord possessed with the most auspicious attributes!) The One whose Lotus feet are worshipped in strict protocol (by offering flowers and praising You with sthOthras) by Sivan (who has matted locks with flowers of konRai and garlands)! This worshippable nature of Yours and only Yours is established very clearly with saasthric proofs and logical explanation quoting Vedas by the great scholars who have studied Vedas and Saasthras; who perform Saama gaana yag~nas; who have studied tarkka (logic) saasthras and meemaamsa saasthrAs. It lies only in You. There are many who pray to Siva- yes. It is true. But Sivan himself does consider himself as Parathvam (Supreme Lordship) and shows that through his anushtAnam (practice). All flowers are meant only for SarvEshwaran i.e. You and hence, he has taken only koNrai flower for himself, if someone is to worship him. He also wishes to serve you as your sEshan and shows to the world the same. Thus, he is not beyond imperfectiosn and he has something to be cleansed by praying to You. That’s the reason He does severe penance meditating Your lotus feet and detaching himself from pleasures with vairAgyam. Thus You, being meditated by Sivan- are the ninmalan; amalan and vimalan (without any kind of imperfections). Even Sivan’s sins get cured due to Your grace alone is proved here. If such is the case and if he is Srivaishnavan, should he not have such marks, and why does he wear ashes all over his body? He does due to (neediyaal vaNanguginRa) atharvasiras. In atharva siras, there is away of devotion indicated and he has immersed himself in it and hence has applied the ashes as mentioned. You have mentioned to him: Tvam hi rudrO mahAbAhO mOhasaasthrANi kaaraya | alpAyAsAm darsayithvA Salam sIgram pradarsaya: || Also, You have instructed him to move hands, go ahead and propagate mOha saasthram to the world and make aasuric people act. And grant them fruits materialistic that they ask for- Thus You granted such a capability to Sivan. He does what is instructed by You. He is not to be blamed nor You; as it is karma and your sEshithvam (mater to him). You are thus akilahEya prathyaneekan and only You. With these vacahanams of Yours (as above), these people themselves add some more and establish and propagate Saiva matham; But the vedaanthic scholars who know all sthuthis, smruthis and ithihaasa purANAs, logic and saasthrAs, knowing fully well of the undisputed Supremacy of Yours, establish Your Parathvam very easily. vEdAnAM SaamavEdhOsmi; They perform nishkAmya yaagams and with full of Sattva guNAs; scholars and hence what they says is true.. Sathyam Sathyam Punas sathyam… Vyasa says: Vedaas saathram param naasthi NA DHAIVAM KESAVAATH PARAM. Thus, considering the Saiva Agamam, which is against Vedas, we (VaidIkAs) will not consider Sivan as Parathvam. It is also well established by our Acharyas and sages: By YamunAchAryar in SthOthra Rathnam, Paraasarar in Vishnu purANam. Thus this pAsuram mentions that the devotees who want other materialistic and other fruits and the Paramaikaanthis as well – consider Sriman Narayanan alone as Parathvam as openly shown and instructed by Rudran himself. eKa yEva nArAyaNa aaseeth na brahmA; naISAna: Sruthi establishes clearly. Only Narayanan was there during Cosmic dissolution; not BrahmA; Not Isan… When considering nyAyam, logics, saathrAs, as per Sages, scholars who have studied Vedas- ViswarUpan VishNu alone is ArAdhyan; He alone is Paradevatha is unambiguously explained. Further “Paasupata Saivam” uses “Anumaanam” and does not accept the Veda. Using the same Anumaana pramaana it is also possible to prove anything.. “Anthavatvam Asavagjnyathaa Va” If it is again taken that Pasupathi is as such told in Paasupatha Saivam itself, then he too has to become the subject of creation, sustenance and destruction. Therefore it is proved that Pasupathi does not turn up with omnipresence, omniscience and omnipotence, purity and divinity. Therefore the “Paasupatha Saivam” which is the philosophy and practice of “Paasupatha Saiva Aagamam” by Pasupathi (Paarvathy Pathi Rudra) is illogical. It is not only against the Veda but also against logic. All Vedas and other holy scriptures talk about Him as He is BrahmA, Siva, Indra, AkAksA, et al. He is ParamaswarAt. The universe came out of Vishnu. He created thus Chathurmukha BrahmA and others to undertake specified dutries (onRum dEvum ulagum- NammAzhwAr TVM- 4.9). All including BrahmA and Rudra are subservient to Him. He is AdhidEvA. Creation is child’s play to Him; He is not subservient to anyone. Vishnu is sarvagnan, Sarva shakthan; SarvEshwaran, Sriya: Pathi, Parama kaaruNikO Bhagawaan. There is no God greater than Vishnu; No one can measure His greatness either. There is nothing equal to Vedas and saasthrAs- says Sage Vyasa. [swamy Desikan states in SaraNagati Deepika-sloka 19- For those, who have found that Siva is under Your control from episodes, known as (1) Battle of Kaasi, (2): Vrukaasuran history (3) History of anthakan (4) Siva’s bow (5) BANAsuran (6) Origin of river Ganges (7) Siva’s birth, naming and his conversation with Naanmukhan and the like and Siva’s own words from the episode of the fear which emanated out of a crime against Ambareeshan, a great devotee and from the Sage’s curse, which Siva had to face; Thus Swamy Desikan says: who else is there to be reached other than You as the refuge..] Thirumazhisai AzhwAr ThiruvadigaLE SaraNam Regards Namo narayana dAsan Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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