Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 SrI: SrImathE Gopaladseika mahadesikaya nama: Dearest all, Continuing on our earlier discussion: Thus Dwaita, Advaita and VisishtAdvaita mathams follow the above doctrines of bhEdha, abhEdha and Ghataka sruthis respectively. Advaita- Monism is based on AbhEda sruthis; Dwaita- Dualism is based on bhEda sruthis VisishtAdvaita- Qualified Monsim based on Ghataka sruthis (encompassing both bhEdha and abhEdha sruthis) What it ultimately boils down to is the relationship of the individual self to the Supreme. What is the relationship? Each of these three has a different version.. Which one is more correct and accurate? Let it be anyone…so what? why to ask this query first of all? The reason is to find out that relationship so that we can know the nature of the way to get rid of these suffering; the way to realize the Truth and to find out if at all moksha, the state of final salvation and attaining Absolute Anandham, is something worth at all. Go back to my first [or 2nd post- it is intelligent querying ourselves- else we would be no different from beasts]. Before that why Vedas and saathrAs? Why not see for yourself and get convinced. Or argue and logically prove it to me… one may say.. The perception and logics have got their own follies and pitfalls. Sri Sadagopan Swami beautifully has enlisted [from swamy Desikan’s pradhana sathakam] There are three pramaanams for gaining the correct knowledge about the fruits of Moksham and the means to realize the blessings of Moksham . These four pramaanams for gaining the correct knowledge on the above two subjects are : (1) Prathyaksham (2) Anumaanam and (3) Saasthram or Vedas . Prathyaksham method is to see , touch and hear about things and get convinced about their reality or otherwise . Anumaanam is the method by which the reasoning power is used to arrive at conclusions about subjects that do not permit the deductions based exclusively on prathyaksham associated with the sensory perceptions Saasthram is that pramaanam that instructs us on the fruits of Moksham and the means to attain it , when the routes of Prathyaksham and anumaanam are not useful or competent . Thus Saasthram is superior to both Prathyaksham and anumaanam . Far superior (pradhaanam ) to all of the above is Vedam since it describes exactly the fruits gained by the jeevan in parama padham and shows the correct means to attain moksha siddhi . There is no saasthram that is superior to Vedam (vEdaath saasthram param naasthi na dhaivam kesavaath param --Naaradheeya Puraanam 8.32) .Sage Naaradhaa as a Naaraayana Paaraayana raises his hands and swears about Vedam being the pradhanam among all the saasthraas ( Sathyam sathyam puna: sathyam uddhdhruthya bhujam uchyathe : Vedaath saasthram param naasthi na dhaivam kesavaath param ) . Swami Sri Desikan sums it up this way : paara-loukikapurushaartha -tadhupaayangalai yatha-vasthithamaaha kaatuhira Vedam pradhaanam . He says that VEDAM IS THE PRADHAANAM among the PRAMAANAMS since it alone precisely describes the fruits of Moksham and the means to attain that supreme blessing(parama purushaartham). Having been convinced that it is Vedas and Upnaishdads which are proof and authority for us.. how do we understand them and which one is right? Tomorrow let us get back to our understanding of Advaita, Dwaita and Visishtadvaita- which is which and what the difference is and what are their characteristics before we jump into further into deep waters of our sampradayam. asmadhAchArya paryanthAm vandhE GuruparamparAm Regards Namo Narayana dAsan ______________________________\ ____ Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music./unlimited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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