Fw: [t'venkatam] Fw: Regarding Sama Veda Upakarma on 6th September 2005

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Dear Asthikas,

I expected some pandits will explain the details in the sankalpam of Sama Uapkarma.

Now I wish to explain it in brief.

All vedins (including Sama vedins) should do the 'Adhyayana Uthsarjanam' on Powrnami Day of Thai.

Which is sastram.

No one is doing it and hence we are doing it in the Upakarma as a parihaaram.

 

So, the sankalpam tells:

"Proshtapathyam Hastharukshe" - Proshtapatha = Aavani or Purattasi (more explanation required)

Proshtapatha maadham hastha nakshaththirathil, thai maadham powrnamiyil panna vendiyadhana adhyayana uthsarjana karmavukku

angmaaha, devargal, rushigal matrum avargaludaiya pithrukkalin preethikkaha deva rushi pithru tharpanangalai pannugiren.

 

This sankalpam is not my own text, I have attached the copy of the page from more than hundred years old book.

 

There is no room to discuss about the period or time to do the Upakarma and the sankalpam is not meaning like that.

They have mentioned that, Yajur vedins will do like that. That is also wrong. Nobody will do Upakarma on Thaishyam Powrnamasyam

(Thai Powrnami). So, the Thai powrnami is given to mention the period of 'Adhyayana Uthsarjanam'.

For your information the Adhyayana Uthsavam for Tamil Vedham is properly going on Thai month.

 

I remember a dialogue : "Paatezhudhi peyar vaangum pulavargalum irukkirargal, Kutram kandupidiththu vaangupavarkalum irukkiraarkal"

Adiyen,

Dasan,

Deevalur N.V.Srinivasan

 

- nvs

dpk1941 ; sgopan ; vaideekam ; Ramanujamission ; ; svknvs

Friday, September 09, 2005 12:05 AM

Re: [t'venkatam] Fw: Regarding Sama Veda Upakarma on 6th September 2005

 

Dear Shri Sadagopan Swami,

(My Sanskrit Guru Adviced me to write as 'Satakopan')

I came to understand a swamin had find fault in the Sankalmpam uploaded in our website.

Pandiya King declared his justice without getting the opinion from Kovalan. Like that, the declaration as fault

in my website is declared. I take it is a bhagavath sankalpam. But it is my duty to clarify you the fact.

 

The sankalpam given in our site is as follows:

 

"Proshtapathyam hastharukshe, thaishyaam powrnamaasyam karthavya adhyaya uthsarjana karmaangam

dheva rushi pithru preethyartham, dheva rushi pithru tharpanam karishye"

 

I had attached the evidence for the above sankalapma which had been given to me by my Guru, and which

I am using for the past 15 years. The evidence is in Grantham liphi. You can check it with Grantham known persons.

Also I request you to kindly indicate me the mistake in it.

God only knows that how can the bad name created on me will disappear?!

This is the big problem for the persons who wish to do the public service widely by spending their own time and money.

My mother will say like these "Kozhiyum koduththu koralaiyum izhandhaalaam".

Sorry for the inconvenience anything I made out of this.

Adiyen,

Dasan

Deevalur N.V.Srinivasan (a) VAsu VAdhyAr

 

 

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dpk1941

nvs

Thursday, September 08, 2005 5:21 PM

Fw: [t'venkatam] Fw: Regarding Sama Veda Upakarma on 6th September 2005

 

Dear Swamin!

As desired by devarIr, adiyEn forward the message reg. Sankalpam for Samaveda Upakarma. The mails are self explanatorey.

Adiyen dasan,

Damal Pathangi Kannan

- sgopan

Ponnappan ; Sgt ; SG ; Rajeev ; acharya ; Ramanujamission ; Swami ; DS

Cc: PNS

Friday, August 19, 2005 6:51 PM

[t'venkatam] Fw: Regarding Sama Veda Upakarma on 6th September 2005

SrI:Dear AasthikAs :One of the benefits of these e-lists are to learn fromexperts in India about the accuracies in anushtAnam .I am glad to learn that there are additional nuances tothe nirNayam of the day of Saama UpAkarma andam pleased to share with them .My sincere thanks to Dr.P.N.Sridharan of PiLLaipAkkamHH Srimath Azhagiya Singar Vamsam serving as the Hon.Secretary ofthe Sri Matam Schools located at MadhurAnthakam , where futurescholars of our SanAtana dharmam are being trained :http://www.ahobilamutt.org/educationThe learned faculty there are helping us with all these mattrs ofserious interest to us living far away from home . Please see the note below .Thank you Sriman Sridharan Swamy ,V.Sadagopan***************************************************************************************************************************************************************- "Sridharan Pillaipakkam N" <pns"sgopan" <sgopanThursday, August 18, 2005 11:37 PMRE: Regarding Sama Veda Upakarma on 6th September 2005*************************************************************************************> swamin,> The asthika from NJ is correct but there is a clarification further in his > explanation.> For Samagas (Saama Saakha AdhyAyins ) the following pramanAs exist:> 1. hasta nakshatra yuktayam panchamyam amavasyam va paushtapadyam samga: > kuryu:|> 2. poushtapada mase panchamee yukte haste chandoga: (samaga:) kuryu:|> 3. 'poushtapadyam hastam kruheetva' (drahyayana)|> It is clear for them hasta nakshtra is pradanyam. Panchami yukta hasta is > vishesam. some time it may come on other titis (+/- 1).>> My point are these:> - the asthika has left panchami, when there is pramana> - i am not sure the occurance of amavasya along with hasta..i need to > enquire vidwans on this...> - when it will come on dvitia..>> Dasan>> > sgopan [sgopan]> Fri 19-Aug-2005 7:27 AM> Ponnappan; Sgt; Rajeev; DS; Swami; Iowa; > Ramanujamission ; SG; acharya> Cc: MR; VKA> Fw: Regarding Sama Veda Upakarma on 6th September 2005> SrI:>> Dear AasthikAs :>> A Saama Saakha AdhyAyin has invited our attention to> a mistake in the Sankalpam for Saama UpAkarmA made in> http://www.ahobilam.com , which is usually careful. There must> have been an oversight by the Bruhaspathy Swamy , who> is the owner of ahobilam.com . This web site has nothing to do> with srimatam Web site ( http://www.ahobilamutt.org ) .>> Please note the correct Saama UpAkarma Sankalpam below ,> courtesy an aasthikar from NJ . I am glad this Aasthikar caught it> in time (Sep 6 is the date of Saama UpAkarma : Tritiya> Hastham for USA East Coast ) .>> V.Sadagopan>> Forwarded Message :> *************************> > srI:> > Sri Sadagopan,> > dasoham.> > There is an error in the sankalpam details given for Sama Upakarma,> > with Ahobilam.com site. Sama upakarma is performed in bhadrapada sukla> > paksham when Hasta nakshatram is present. This falls on either> > chaturti or Tritiyai or dvitiyai. Presence of hastra nakshatram is> > very important for Sama upakarma. In that we site, the sankalpam is> > given like taishyam paurnamasyam. Paurnami is significant for Yajur> > upakarma. The bhagavathas please note that in observing sama upakarma.> > dasan.>>>> Srimate Sri Laksminrisimha Divya Paduka Sevaka> Srivan Satakopa Sri Narayana Yatindra Mahadesikaya Nama:

 

 

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