Guest guest Posted September 14, 2005 Report Share Posted September 14, 2005 IMPORTANCE OF SWARAM IN VEDAS ------------------------------ Vedas remains to-day the same in form and feature as it was at time out of memory. The reason for this absence of distortion or deterioration is that Vedic chanting has been so carefully guarded, as not to allow any possibility of a lapse from its pristine form. Of the innumerable Veda Saakhaas, we know now only of one out of the 21 branches of the Rig Veda, three out of the 101 branches of the Yajur Veda, two or possibly three out of 1,000 branches of the Saama Veda, and one only out of 11 branches of Atharva Veda, one will have to devote to its learning about eight years, night and day. There are various methods in Vedhaadhyayana (memorising the Veda mantras) which help to preserve the number and the order of the words and letters of each Veda Mantra. There are specifications regarding the time interval (matra) for the utterance of each letter in a word; the part of the body from which each of the sounds in the word should emanate by the exhalation of the breath in an appropriate manner ; the affinities between the Swaraas in the Vedas and the Swaraas in Sangeeta (music) and the affinities of both (Veda Swaraas and Sangeeta Swaraas) to the natural Swaraas in the sounds produced by animals , birds, etc. These methods of memorising the Veda Mantras are known as Vaakya, Pada, Krama, Ghana, Jata, Swara,etc. The Vedas are not like the sounds of common speech to undergo periodical changes by usage; on the other hand, they have been meticulously preserved as a result of being protected by definite prescriptions and indices relating to the sound measures, their nature, sequence, manner of utterance, etc., which have been preserved by oral transmission from generation to generation. M.V.Suresh On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 Suresh Jayaraman wrote : >Sincere thanks mama. >BTW, I am curious to know if I can get your recordings and writings on veda >works. >Namaskarams >Suresh >> " sgopan " <sgopan >>vaideekam >><vaideekam > >>Re: [Vaideekam] Pradhosha Mahima >>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 07:44:15 -0400 >> >>Dear Sri Jayaraman : >> >>Your questions about the scope of the Vaideekam >>group that I am moderating temporarily at the request >>of Sri Vaasu VaadhyAr can only be answered by >>the Founder of this Aasthika Group . It appears that >>He has very good intentions of addressing the spiritual needs >>of all AasthikAs . >> >>Vedam is nothing but Manthrams , where Svaram >>is central . Even a slight variation can give the opposite >>effect of waht one is seeking . This tradition needs to be >>protected as it always has been in the form of oral tradition . >>Very elaborate means have been created to keep the Svarams >>associated with the Veda ManthrAs . Kaanchi PeriyaVAl was >>expressing , practising and protecting this ancient tradition >>of Manthra dhrashtAs , who assembled these manthrams of Vedams, >>which are the breath of the Lord . Saama Vedam is a calssical case >>of how elaborate these Svarams are protected . If one is fortuanate >>to hear Saama Vedam rendered in the three different SaakhAs , one can >>appreciate it . >> >>By the way , I am in the middle of recording Purusha Sookthams recited in >>the four SamhithAs and their different SaakhAs . As you might know , >>Purusha Sooktham is the only assembly of Veda Manthrams that is >>part of all the Four VedAs . >> >> >> >>Rudram is right smack in the middle of Yajur Vedam and as Veda Manthram >>is recited as a part of the full Veda PaarAyaNam by Vedic adhyApAka Ghoshti >>. It can not be disassembled since it is part of the Vedams . >>VaishNavite Bruhaspathys will not perform Sri Rudra Homams >>(Athirudhrams etc) . I have written extensively about the Meanings of >>Sri Rudram , the Veda Manthram and that came to 100 plus pages . >>This was before my Prapatthi . If anyone wants to hear Sri Rudram being >>chanted , they should visit Thirusur Vadakku Naathar Temple during >>Athirudra Homams , which are done periodically . When VaishNavites >>recite Sri Rudram , they meditate on Sriman NaarAyaNan as the indweller >>of Rudran and address their prayers to Him . >> >>Prapatthi is a defining moment for a VaishNavan or Aasthikan .At hat time , >>the person performing Prapatthi takes a vow to worship Sriman >>NaarAyaNa as the Supreme Lord and focuses on Him alone to protect >>his/her Prapatthi . >> >>V.Sadagopan >> >> >> >> >>- >> " Suresh Jayaraman " <sureshjraman >><vaideekam > >>Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:10 AM >>Re: [Vaideekam] Pradhosha Mahima >> >> >> > Forum, >> > >> > A related question here: >> > >> > 0. Why is it told that veda parayanam have to be learnt by the word of >> > mouth? Even a script reading is prohibited(as per paramacharya >> > chandrashekar >> > saraswathi). Why is that ? >> > >> > 1. Why is it important that veda parayanam has to be done with the >>proper >> > SWARAM?? >> > >> > Note: >> > I am indeed surprised to see the mention of Rudram Chamakam in this >>forum >> > as >> > most of the discussion inclined towards vaishnavism in the past. No >> > offense >> > meant here please. >> > >> > Regards >> > Suresh >> > >> > >> >>raman subramanian <rahul_remya >> >>vaideekam >> >>vaideekam >> >>Re: [Vaideekam] Pradhosha Mahima >> >>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:32:36 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >> >>Dear Sada Gopan Sir, >> >>The site --Ramanuja-cannot be opened in my system.Sorry to disturb u,Can >>u >> >>briefly tell me if chanting of Rudram Chamakam and PurushaSuktham is >> >>eneough at the time of Pradosam.I knew only that and no chance for any >> >>other reading is possible here. >> >>Hare Krisha-Raman-Dubai >> >> >> >>sgopan <sgopan wrote: >> >>Dear Members : >> >> >> >>In Ahobila Matam , special PaarAyaNam and Thirumanjanam >> >>are done during PradhOshams as a part of VisEsha AaarAdhabam >> >>for SvarNa Narasimhan . >> >> >> >>The details are available at : >> >> >http://www.Ramanuja.org/sv/Bhakti/archives/rituals/june2002/0019.html >> >> >> >>Please refer to it . >> >>V.Sadagopan >> >>- >> >>Melarkode Venkateswaran Suresh >> >>vaideekam >> >>Cc: subramanian rama >> >>Monday, September 12, 2005 1:56 PM >> >>[Vaideekam] Pradhosha Mahima >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Pradhosha Mahima >> >>----------------- >> >>Pradhosha pooja is one of the most important among the poojas performed >>to >> >>the Graceful Lord Shiva. In Shukla Paksha (15 moon days from New moon to >> >>Full moon) and Krishna Paksha (15 moon days from Full moon to New moon) >> >>the >> >>evening of the trayodasi (thirteenth moon day) between 4.30 p.m. to 6.00 >> >>p.m. is called Pradhosha. It comes once in fifteen moon days. Pradhosha >> >>time is especially meant for praying Lord Shiva. Praying in that time >>will >> >>free us from out sins and gives moksha finally (hence the name >>Pradhosha). >> >>During pradoSha time a special type of circumambulating called soma >>sUtra >> >>pradaxiNam(1) is done. >> >> >> >>Pradhosha Purana: >> >> >> >>Once Dhevas and Asuras using the serpent Vasuki and the hill Mandhara >>were >> >>trying to get Amrutham (nector) from the Kseerabthi (milk ocean). Then >>the >> >>terrible poison Halahalam came up. All got frightened and pleaded to >>Lord >> >>Shiva for rescue. Being the peak of mercy Lord Shiva ate that poison. >>Then >> >>as per His order they resumed their effort to get Amrutham. They got it >>on >> >>Dhwadhasi (twelfth moon day). Without praying and thanking the God, by >> >>whom >> >>they got Amrutham, Devas started dancing and celebrating their victory. >> >> >> >>On thrayodhasi (thirteenth moon day) they realised their sin of not >> >>praying >> >>the God and pleaded for forgiveness. The pleased graceful Lord Shiva >> >>forgave them and danced between the horns of the Nandhi (holy bull). >>That >> >>time is called Pradhosham. Whoever prays Lord Shiva in that time, Lord >> >>Shiva fulfills their wishes and give them mukthi. >> >> >> >>During Prodhosha time anointing (Abhishekam) the Shiva deity with the >> >>following is considered fruitful. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Milk gives long life >> >>Ghee gives Moksha state >> >>Curd gives good children >> >>Honey gives melodious voice >> >>Rice powder frees from debts >> >>Sugar cane juice gives good health >> >>Panjamrutham gives wealth >> >>Lemon removes fear of death >> >>Sugar removes enmity >> >>Tender coconut gives enjoyment >> >>Cooked Rice(Annam) gives mejestic life >> >>Sandal gives Lakshmi's grace >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 subramanian rama wrote : >> >> >Respected swami, >> >> > >> >> >Could you please explain the significance of pradosham ? >> >> > >> >> >Regards >> >> > >> >> >S.GOPAL >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 vaideekam wrote : >> >> > >-----------------I am here to help you ever ----------------------- >> >> > >To Post a message, send it to: vaideekam >> >> > >To Leave this group send a message to: >> >>vaideekam- >> >> > >---------------------------Access Trouble? ------------------------- >> >> > >Be active member, Use all the features: Chat, Files, Photos, Links, >> >>Polls, calander. 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