mantras learnt at upanayanam

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Dear Sri Vasu Vadhyar, all members,

 

What about the samidhaadaanam mantrams? Don't they get us to

recite these during upanayanam as our first samidhaadaanam? I am in

a bit of a quandary because I have both Yajur and Sama mantrams for

samidhaadaanam in a book - but the main Vadyar was a Yajur Vedi (with

a Sama Vadyar helping) so I'm not sure if I have been taught Yajur or

Sama samidhaadaanam.

 

I regrettably have not performed samidaadhaanam since my

upanayanam (also it's a bit dangerous here because we all have wood

houses in the UK) but was wondering if I can at least chant these

mantras in the morning as a (poor) substitute.

 

praNAmangaL

 

Ranjan

 

 

***Dear Ranjan,

You are correct, Samidhanam should be done immediately after Brahmopadesam.

Madhyahniham also should be started on that day.

But they are not a part of Brahmopadesam.

The Sama Samidhadhanam is almost like Yajur samidhadhanam, but in samam the

first one manthram is enough

1. Agnaye samidham aaharsham..... swaaha.

2. Bhoo Swaaha

3. Bhuva Swaaha

4. Suva Swaaha

5. Bhoor bhuva suva swaaha.

That is all.

I will send the complete manthram in Devanagari(pdf) later.

Note:- Chanting manthram as 'Maanaseekam' is not a poor substitue but it is real

substitue always where it is not possible to do it.

VAsu VAdhyAr

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Dear Mr.Ranjan,

Do not confuse yourself and do not be a cause for confusion to others. I don't

have time to go in detail in your message.

But my opinion is:

Before getting the manthrams from any institution including myself, first know

about that institution wheather it will be suitable for us or not. After knowing

it take the manthrams from their and do according to them. Do not compare with

others, which will lead you to confusion.

The sandhya vandhanam and all are giving you some procedure to worship the God,

the aim behind it is to make you the habit and sense that is all. At the same

time some slokas of their own tradition will be included with it for dhyanam

etc.

The Vedha portion will not differ in any sampradayam and the sloka (non vedham)

will differ in all sampradayam.

So, do not get confused and don't confuse others.

Do follow any one, Have belief on God, HE will guide you in time for the right

things if necessary.

VAsu VAdhyAr

 

 

Dear Sri Keshava, Sri Vasu Vadhyar,

 

I also had a lot of confusion with different versions of

sandhyaa vandanam abounding on the web. For example, one cassette of

sandhyaavandanam by Kannada Smaartas seems to have many different

mantras to the Shri Vaishnava and Iyer versions - some extra veda

mantras in mantra-snaanam and gaayatri aavaahanam, lots of extra

invocatory shlokas before japam, elaborate anga/kara-nyAsa

(...shirase svAha,... anguShTAbhyAm namaH etc) which I don't often

see in Iyengar or Iyer versions. The basic Yajur Vedi sandhya that

I've seen are just like the version Shri Vaasu Vaadyar put up on his

website.

 

It appears that Shri Vaishnavas and Iyers follow what is often

called " drAviDa " prayoga in these books, presumably because of our

roots in the Tamil lands? Although the Shri Vaishnava ones tend not

to include the 'graha' tarpaNams (Adityam tarpayAmi etc) and some of

the devata vandanams (yama vandanam etc). So the only way I've

managed to be sure of the right procedure is to look specifically for

a) my sampradaaya and b) my shaakha. After researching a bit I

managed to get together a procedure which seemed to agree by and

large with all my sources.

 

(Not a very 'shastraic' way of learning sandhyaavandanam, I

agree! But in these desperate times...)

 

It appears to me that many of the small differences in different

books come from a) whether they miss out the nyAsa before reciting

Veda mantras or not (reciting Rishi, Chandas and Devata) and b)

whether they include all the purANic/non-vedic shlokas in the final

upasthAnam section or not. All the learned members will know this

I'm sure - just my thoughts for clarification, please correct any

mistakes.

 

praNAmams

 

namO nArAyaNa

 

Ranjan

 

vaideekam , Greg Jay <gregjay@b...> wrote:

> Dear Deevalur Swami, namaskaram

>

> There are several texts and recordings of sandhya vandanam

available

> in the market and on the web, including the one one your website.

> Everyone of them is slightly different in details. Please advise

me

> as to which mantrams are absolutely essential and constitute the

> minimum that need to be chanted to consider the observance as

> performed properly.

>

> adiyen

>

> Keshava

>

> ***

> Dear Keshav,

> I am running very very short of time. I am unable to read messages,

because I am getting only few minutes to sit on the computer now a

days.

> I am giving manthras in the website or locally to anybody only with

some strong evidence, I never give a word of my own without

mentioning it which is of my own.

> So, the text what I had given is enough for beginners, let them do

search for better and advanced manthrams, we can not say this is the

final for any script except Vedham.

> VAsu VAdhyAr

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Dear Sri VAsu VAdyar,

 

Sorry if I was a cause of confusion to others. I was merely

commenting on some of the differences I have seen in the past between

different traditions that I thought would be interesting to some

members. (And I have noticed Kannada smaarta brahmins using

extra/different Veda mantrams). Hope no damage is done.

 

As you say, hopefully my performance of karmas will help develop

discipline, routine and devotion, not worrying about all the

differences between traditions (and despite all my mistakes!)

 

praNaamams

 

namO nArAyaNAya

 

Ranjan

 

vaideekam , " rvv21 " <ranjan@c...> wrote:

> Dear Mr.Ranjan,

> Do not confuse yourself and do not be a cause for confusion to

others. I don't have time to go in detail in your message.

> But my opinion is:

> Before getting the manthrams from any institution including myself,

first know about that institution wheather it will be suitable for us

or not. After knowing it take the manthrams from their and do

according to them. Do not compare with others, which will lead you to

confusion.

> The sandhya vandhanam and all are giving you some procedure to

worship the God, the aim behind it is to make you the habit and sense

that is all. At the same time some slokas of their own tradition will

be included with it for dhyanam etc.

> The Vedha portion will not differ in any sampradayam and the sloka

(non vedham) will differ in all sampradayam.

> So, do not get confused and don't confuse others.

> Do follow any one, Have belief on God, HE will guide you in time

for the right things if necessary.

> VAsu VAdhyAr