Guest guest Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Respected Vadyar, Can I add something to the thoughts of Mr.Srini.Its true that there is total deteriorating standards all around and sorry to say among our own Brahmin traditions and standards and ethics.First due to lack of knowledge in our sampradyams and acharams as there is no forceful leader to guide us,The present generation survives just on these some revered Vasu Vadyars and Sadagpans are somewhere around.I am really pained to think about the future.Just after 50 years even the present ethics and values will perish and vanish.In Kerala u can take it from me there r many towns having lost the service of qualified Vadyars and the intercaste marriage takes place more among Brhamins in the Hindu community.When ther is no priest to advice and guide on relevant matters whats the difference in social life with other communities we r leading.Due to social changes we r forced to live and mix with other social groups to lead a successful life. OK .at least on occasions arise we should exercise our own thoughts and deeds as our unique customs and practices demand.Its high time to think aloud and do somthing to preserve our Acharams and Sampradyams. I even think on such lines the senior learned members to come to the fore and evolve a formule to preserve the Brahmin Spirits,without compromising the social needs of a social life.Let us think of making a code of common coduct ,forgetting the little differences between the Smarthas ,Iyengars ,Vaishnavaites etc.all sub sects and come undera common listed Brahmin conduct.The respected all Vadyars and learned thinkers and Acharyas can even make out a campaign for this along the whole of South India.I am sorry to say Its very much in doubt that the " Brahmamecha samskram " may take place after 50years,as there will not be avialable the service of a Vadyar,in many places.I am sorry to use the coloum group to air my views,as I really longed that our traditions and culture prevailed in my own next generations. Hare Krishna -Raman. ***Dear Mr.Raman, I totally refuse your statement. You people will learn other than vaideekam and earn in crores. Nobody is interested to learn the traditional subjcts but blamming there is no vadhyar?! and hence we have to merge all the sampradayam?! Why atleast one person from one family should compulsorily to put in this study? Why are not suggesting like this? Who compelled you to keep the sampradayam and vaideekam? If you are interested you learn it and do it for yourself and be a vadhyar for atleast a small amount of persons in your area. You do any job, but learn some amount of vaideekam also, I am ready to teach you, for that only I have started this website group and all. But you are suggesting to merge all the sampradayam which will give way to destroy all. It is better to let them go dead now itself instead of merging them! If you have any tiny soft corner about our traditions and vaideekam do not suggest like this any more. " Some fool/idiot like me sitting here and spending the own money and in thousands and using the golden time to clarify the vaideeka doubts for interested people " is in the sense of protecting our Sampradayam only. You people should try to use our services to learn vaideekam and force your heirs to learn it for the sake of our future genrations. I have only two sons. My elder son is studying MSc IT final year, but he is trained to conduct all sorts of vaideekam fuctions poorvam and aparam in both Yajur and Sama Vedham. He did many marriages succesfully. Whenever I find difficult, he put leave to his college and help me to take charge of a vaideeka function. I sent my younger son to learn Vedham, now he is completing his " Padham Kramam " Paddam at Srimadh Andavan Paada Sala at Vaduvur. There will be no problem to conduct any vaideeka funtion for another atleast three generations in our family. This is for your kind information. Sorry for the words used, you should realise it. It is totally not on you but on all the people who is having this activity and mentality. I hope this is enough to change your opinion. And I expect the opinion about reply from all members. VAsu VAdhyAr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 raman subramanian wrote: > Respected Vadyar, > Can I add something to the thoughts of Mr.Srini. I really longed that our traditions and culture prevailed in my own next generations. > Hare Krishna -Raman. > > ***Dear Mr.Raman, > I totally refuse your statement. > You people will learn other than vaideekam and earn in crores. > Nobody is interested to learn the traditional subjcts but blamming there is no vadhyar?! >>>> My view is today circumstances force Vadhyars many to earn only and not be PAramArthikam. > > Who compelled you to keep the sampradayam and vaideekam?be a vadhyar for atleast a small amount of persons in your area. >>>>> In my practical experience only poor family that too failed in elementary / high school students perform pAta sAlA studies.Also there is no job guarantee. From this view all prefer first Medical (MBBS), next Professional ( BE, CA, ICWA, ACS) then arts like B.Sc, B.A like wise. At least they thionk they will fly to Australia, America etc., if at all job is not in INDIA. What about others? > > I am ready to teach you, for that only I have started this website group and all. >>> Many texts like Apasthamba, satyAshAda, bharadwAja, bhOdAyana, etc poorva suthram, apara suthram, sroutha, sulba are deteriorating. These sacred books are not preserved, reeditied, published of course at an affordable cost if at all. > But you are suggesting to merge all the sampradayam which will give way to destroy all. >>>> Merging means may be explaining posible differences in a same book with foot notes. such that common matters will be bold letters, differences in small letters. > > If you have any tiny soft corner about our traditions and vaideekam do not suggest like this any more. > > " Some fool/idiot like me sitting here and spending the own money and in thousands and using the golden time to clarify the vaideeka doubts for interested people " is in the sense of protecting our Sampradayam only. > >>>> Service mentality will meet some times like this annoying situation which is inevitable. But at the same time they should not loose their patience since many other mebbers (people) will not be like the same. > > You people should try to use our services to learn vaideekam and force your heirs to learn it for the sake of our future genrations. >>>> I am having no issues so it is difficult for me to force my heirs. this does not arise in my case.But the thing is that i want to learn/ practise thoroughly. That is all. > > > I have only two sons. My elder son is studying MSc IT final year, but he is trained to conduct all sorts of vaideekam fuctions poorvam and aparam in both Yajur and Sama Vedham. He did many marriages succesfully. Whenever I find difficult, he put leave to his college and help me to take charge of a vaideeka function. > > I sent my younger son to learn Vedham, now he is completing his " Padham Kramam " Paddam at Srimadh Andavan Paada Sala at Vaduvur. > > There will be no problem to conduct any vaideeka funtion for another atleast three generations in our family. > > This is for your kind information. > >>>> The same cannot be my case. > > Sorry for the words used, you should realise it. > It is totally not on you but on all the people who is having this activity and mentality. > I hope this is enough to change your opinion. > And I expect the opinion about reply from all members. > VAsu VAdhyAr > >>>>> Preserve all old golden books / regenerate / train students with latest computer training such that pictorial representations , sequences, manthras, texts, sankyams etc may be explicitly mentiond to one and all. > > > *************************************************** > To Post a message, send it to: vaideekam > To Leave this group send a message to: vaideekam- > ------------------------Did you know ? ------------------------------ > You can easily find solutions for any of your " Vaideeka " needs; > Just visit http://www.ahobilam.com/ once; plenty of information there! > Have nice day! > With Best regards, > Moderator > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 SrI: Dear Members of the Vaideekam group : What Sriman Vaasu VadhyAr says is very interesting and important . It is true that there is a shortage of qualified VaadhyArs , who also know the meaning of the Veda Manthrams and PrayOgams . Many educated in the Western Sciences and Engineering have aksed me to help them know these meanings so that they can conduct the Vaidhika KarmAs like Marriage , Seemantham etc . It is a ocean and I must confess that I do not know enough to satisfy the information needs of the inteersted paties . That is why I was very impressed to find the web site of Sri Vaasu VaadhyAr , where he has devoted unselfishly enormous time and effort to serve the aasthikA community around the world . It is a time consuming task on top of his professional and Family responsibilities . His motto and practise to have one of his sons trained both in Technology and Vaidheekam is commendable . Sending his other son to have adhyayanam at Vaduvoor PaatasAlaa under GhanpAdi Sri DesikAchAr Swamy is a noble thing . I congratulate him for translating his deep faith in to action as a personal example. My Father and my grandfather were Brahaspathys from Poundareekapuram and they moved on to Madras . My father went to MannArgudi PaatasAla and my grandfather was an expert in Yajur and Saama Veda PourOhithyam . My father felt that I should go as far high as possible in Western education and sacrificed every hting for me to go to MIT and recieve the highest degree there ( Doctor of Science degree). After all that education and long career at IBM as a Scientist/Executive , I long to know more about the Vaideekam aspects . Out of all these things , the proverb that comes to my mind is : You can either curse the enveloping darknes or light a lamp to dispel that darkness . Sri Vaasu VaadyAr is implementing the latter step with telling personal example . I personally congratulate him for that . This situation is not confined to Vaideekam . In the fields of Carnatic Music , there are those who say that there are no more Ariyakudis , GNBs and Semmangudis etc and the field is going down the tube. Thaks to a flourishing younger generation , who also have scinetific career , the future is bright . It is wonderful that we have this unique group (Vaideekam ) moderated by Sri Vaasu VaadhyAr at great personal sacrifice . Let us cherish , learn from him and set aside time and money to preserve and protect these Vaidhika anushtAnams . BhAvam is more important than the rote learning . It will be nice to know why we do what we do following the path of our forefathers and Soothra Rishis . Last year , I was happy to sponsor a one day Seminar on SamskArAs at West Mambalam in honor of my Father's SathamAna Uthsavam in 2005 . We made 5 DVDs out of the day's lectures , where great scholars of SamskArAs explained the meanings behind the different steps of SamskArams like Upanayanam onwards . Since one day was not sufficent , the Sanskrit School of West Mambalam ( the conveners of that Conference ) requested the participating experts to provide detailed lecture notes of theirs . Hopefully , that book will be released this year . We can do many things . Modern day web and Multimedia Technologies can be of great help in learning these anushtAnams and nithya karmAs . In this context , I was fortunate to release with the help of HH Srimath PoundarIkapuram Andavan three sets of SandhyA Vandhanams for Yajur , Saama and Rg Vedam respectively and I have placed the Yajur SandhyA on the internet for anyone to access and learn . These have been recorded by experts at Srirangam and supervised by Srimath Andavan . The Rg Veda Sandhya and Rg veda Ghanam has been recorded with the help of Rg Veda GhanapAdi Sri Rangarajan Swamy of KumbhakONam . We can do many things if we have interest , some financial support and project management skills . Please join in and we can meet the needs . NamO Veda PurushAya , Oppiliappan Koil V.Sadagopan > " Some fool/idiot like me sitting here and spending the own money and in > thousands and using the golden time to clarify the vaideeka doubts for > interested people " is in the sense of protecting our Sampradayam only. > > You people should try to use our services to learn vaideekam and force > your heirs to learn it for the sake of our future genrations. > > I have only two sons. My elder son is studying MSc IT final year, but he > is trained to conduct all sorts of vaideekam fuctions poorvam and aparam > in both Yajur and Sama Vedham. He did many marriages succesfully. Whenever > I find difficult, he put leave to his college and help me to take charge > of a vaideeka function. > > I sent my younger son to learn Vedham, now he is completing his " Padham > Kramam " Paddam at Srimadh Andavan Paada Sala at Vaduvur. > > There will be no problem to conduct any vaideeka funtion for another > atleast three generations in our family. > > This is for your kind information. > > > Sorry for the words used, you should realise it. > It is totally not on you but on all the people who is having this activity > and mentality. > I hope this is enough to change your opinion. > And I expect the opinion about reply from all members. > VAsu VAdhyAr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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