[Vaideekam] Doubt about kshavarams ( mudi irakkudhal or mottai to be done)

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�Respected Sriman Vasu Mama,

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I saw your reply to the mail of Mr Sanjay,� informing that it is not correct

to do Mottai after upanayanam especially for sama vedas

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But is Mudi Irakkudhal ( not the first time Mudi Irrakudhal) O.K at the age of

50 at Tirupati. I am a Iyengar, Samavedi, Vaishnava. Mother is alive. Father has

expired.

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Respectfully yours,

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I.Vasantkumar.V

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Mudi irakkudhal is meant for Kula Dheivam as a traditional action.

Mottai Podudhal is meant for removing hairs at any temple of our ishta dheivam

as a personal prarthanai.

 

I told even Mudi irakkudhal itself is not good after Upanayanam!

You are asking for Mottai Podudhal??!

nvs

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Pranaam/Vannakkam,

 

Dear Swamy,

 

I am a Yajur Vedi, is there any prohibition upon offering a full tonsure

(precisely mottai podudhal) at Tirupathi Tirumalai for venkatesa perumaal.

 

As per your previous reply to Sri V.Kumar's doubt, u have been stating something

about offering mottai poduthal.....(the details given aren't very clear).

 

Therefore kindly please confirm whether or not a Brahmana allow to offer this

mottai podudhal prathanai at any prathanai Temple eg.(for vaishnava-Tirupathi,

 and the saivaite at Palani..etc).

 

Pardon me if I were been such a dim witted. Kindly please enlight me

accordingly.

 

Dhanyavath/Nandri

 

Trivikrama Venkadeshar

 

 

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Dos and don't are differs according to Varnam & Ashramam;

Varnam :- Brahmana, Kshatrya, Vaisya, Chathurtha

Ashramam: Brahmacharya, Gruhastha, Sanyasa, Vaanaprasta

Thses four ashramis are human only but Gruhasta only can go for job to earn and

store money. All other three categories are not eligible to earn and store money

or material and also not eligible to donate others.

 

 

Sikhai is prescribed as important for all Varnas who are eligible for

upanayanam.

Thathriya Samhithai - 4th Kaandam 6th prasnam- 4th Anuvakam - 5th Panjaati -

" .... Yatrabaana sampatanti kumaraavishikhaaiva " means 'the arrows had fallen

waste as Argya water dropped uselessly by brahmacharis without 'Shikhai'. "

 

Again and again all acharyas and ancestors compelling us to, 'do your duty

correctly without overlooking shastras, which is the best method of worship the

God, than any other means'.

 

But people are trying to show their bhakthi by 'Mottai podudhal', 'Alagu

kutthudal', 'Kaavadi eduthal', 'Irumudi kaatudhal', 'Thee midhital' etc. which

are made and followed by people who were not trained and not eligible for other

civilized method of worships.

 

Though educated and civilized, mostly people are crazy to follow the mass

without knowing 'we are belong to which category and can we do that etc.'

 

It is also discussed by many great acharyas, people will be like that, because

people are 'Shareera abhimani' and not 'atma abhimani'.

 

I hope, that I do not have any 'Adhikaaram' (power) to instruct anybody to 'do

that' or 'don't do that' directly. So, members should understand from the

explanations which they have to follow.

So, understand this much clear details can be given.

nvs

 

 

 

 

 

 

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SrI:

Dear Members :

 

Our AchAram and dharma Saastrams and observances are based on wisdom accumulated from generations of insights gained .

 

For instance , the Mottai aditthal has a scientific basis for young children .

 

In the old days of Joint family , hair lice was a problem and the young child is particularly vulnerable and can ill afford the . Hair lice used to travel from mat to mat and pillow to pillow . Making it " a Vendutalai" to Kula dhaivam addressed another problem .

 

The idea of mamathaa thyAgam by removing one's hair is another aspect .

I can not however feel cofortable with grown up , married woman having their head hair removed

as I see it in PrArthanaa sthalams . Personally , I consider it as an amangaLam although the person offering their hair feel very happy . Our Lord would understand a humble dhaNDAvath

PraNAmam very happily instead of the Barbers and the Temple authorities generating huge revenue by sending these hair to make wigs overseas . Fortunately , Lord VenkatEsa is

directing these funds in support of the Univeristy and Hospitals as well .

 

There is no Vaidheeka significance to family observances as Sriman NVS Swamy has indicated .

 

NamO SrI VenkatESAya,

V.Sadagopan

 

 

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TRIVIKRAMA VENKADESHAR

vaideekam

Monday, April 20, 2009 9:03 AM

Re: [Vaideekam] Doubt about kshavarams ( mudi irakkudhal or mottai to be done)

 

 

Pranaam/Vannakkam, Dear Swamy, I am a Yajur Vedi, is there any prohibition upon offering a full tonsure (precisely mottai podudhal) at Tirupathi Tirumalai for venkatesa perumaal. As per your previous reply to Sri V.Kumar's doubt, u have been stating something about offering mottai poduthal.....(the details given aren't very clear). Therefore kindly please confirm whether or not a Brahmana allow to offer this mottai podudhal prathanai at any prathanai Temple eg.(for vaishnava-Tirupathi, and the saivaite at Palani..etc). Pardon me if I were been such a dim witted. Kindly please enlight me accordingly. Dhanyavath/Nandri Trivikrama Venkadeshar ***Dos and don't are differs according to Varnam & Ashramam;Varnam :- Brahmana, Kshatrya, Vaisya, ChathurthaAshramam: Brahmacharya, Gruhastha, Sanyasa, VaanaprastaThses four ashramis are human only but Gruhasta only can go for job to earn and store money. All other three categories are not eligible to earn and store money or material and also not eligible to donate others. Sikhai is prescribed as important for all Varnas who are eligible for upanayanam.Thathriya Samhithai - 4th Kaandam 6th prasnam- 4th Anuvakam - 5th Panjaati - ".... Yatrabaana sampatanti kumaraavishikhaaiva" means 'the arrows had fallen waste as Argya water dropped uselessly by brahmacharis without 'Shikhai'." Again and again all acharyas and ancestors compelling us to, 'do your duty correctly without overlooking shastras, which is the best method of worship the God, than any other means'. But people are trying to show their bhakthi by 'Mottai podudhal', 'Alagu kutthudal', 'Kaavadi eduthal', 'Irumudi kaatudhal', 'Thee midhital' etc. which are made and followed by people who were not trained and not eligible for other civilized method of worships.Though educated and civilized, mostly people are crazy to follow the mass without knowing 'we are belong to which category and can we do that etc.'It is also discussed by many great acharyas, people will be like that, because people are 'Shareera abhimani' and not 'atma abhimani'.I hope, that I do not have any 'Adhikaaram' (power) to instruct anybody to 'do that' or 'don't do that' directly. So, members should understand from the explanations which they have to follow.So, understand this much clear details can be given.nvs