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srI:

 

narsimhan csl wrote:

 

> Well to answer the question of shriman Venkataraghavan, I will only

say the following:

> Thiruman kappu is completely vedic & has the Garuda gayathri

manthram to be recited during its dharanam along with Srimanthram for

piratti.

 

>>%% I am not aware if garuda gAyathri manthram is recited/mediated

during urdhva pundara dhAranam.If so please let me know which ahnikam

is this suggestedd or is it in your vamsa sistAchAram.. ??

 

My question was clear.. is there any vedic manthram that clearly

meant to be meditated upon during urdhva pundara dhAranam?

If so please quote the same.

 

Please note I was asking for pramAnAs from vedAs.

 

& & & & & & & &

 

> Thiruman kAppu is well documented in vedas and puranas.

 

>> %% Again where in vedAs?? is that mantharam specific to be

recited/meditated during urdhva pundara dhAranam.? What is the nature

or say purport of that mantharam. does that mantharam

talk about glory of urdhva pundara dhAranam or is that mantharam

specificly and explicitly meant to be recited during the same?

 

& & & & & & & & & & & &

> There is a story that Lord Garuda has brought the thiruman kappu for

'vishnu bhaktas' from Shvetha dveepam. So nothing is 'avaideekam'

here. Urdhvapundra dharanam is recorded in puranas to please lord

narayana directly.

 

 

>>%%%% Does this story appear in any veda??

 

& & & & & & & & & &

>

> Let me say here that there are indications in old texts regarding

'shankara bhagavath padal' that he also used to adore Urdhvapundram.

 

 

>>%%%%% The question is not whether AdhiShankarA adored urdhva

pundaram or not.Please refer to My mail.

 

& & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & & &

 

> Sajjana padapadma paramanuhu

> Lakshmi Narasimha dasan

 

-- regards

VenkatarAghava dhAsan

 

>

> " VenkatarAghavan K.S " <ksvenkat@e...> wrote:

>

> Dear friends

>

> I wanted to understand the views of " learned " members and

" swAmis " in

> the list about various forms of pundara dhAranam.

>

> I have few specific questions.

>

> 1)There are many kinds of pundara dhAranam suggested by

shruthi(s) and

> smruthis. There are many claims in support of both types of pundara

> dhAranam(thriyak and urdhva) How are they reconcilled?

>

> (Please note My question is not about how the urdhava pundaram

has to

> be smeared but why only urdhav pundaram ahs to be smeared and not

> thriyak pundaram/(basmam))

>

> 2)There is a specific Manthra as claimed by Nir Visesha advaitha

> (antharanga sAktha) smArthAs (in short neo advaithins) which appears

> in shruthi(s). This manthrA is to be meditated

upon/recited/chanted by

> the one who smears basmam(as thriyak pundaram).

>

> They hence claim that only basma dhAranam is supported by vedAs.They

> also claim that pAnchrAthris during AgamA initation or during homam

> smear homa basmam and hence say that only basma dhAranam is

vaidhEkam.

>

> [The above question (2) is actually may not be from any

neo-adhvaithin

> that you may stumble upon but infact it is from " nadamAdum dheivam "

> / " nadamAdiya dheivam " simply " dheivathin kural " .(sic)

> ]

>

> My next question

>

> (3)Are there any manthrAs from the shruthi(s)(Vedas) to be

> recited/meditated/chanted upon during urdhva pundara dhAranam? Be it

> gopi Chandhanam or thiruman.

>

> I hope I get an answer with pramAnams and " non sentimental " answers.

>

> regards

> VenkatarAghava dhAsan

>

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