Fw: {Disarmed} Dating the brahma Sutras and badarayana

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" M.N.Ramanuja " <mnr

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Friday, September 08, 2006 3:31 AM

Re: {Disarmed} Re: Dating the brahma Sutras and

badarayana

 

 

> Sri:

> In connection with this query, we would like to see if there is any

> remote reference to Buddha in our granthas.

> Let us take up Ramayana. We know that at many places where srirama

> exhibited fury, He was compared to pralayagni, and Rudra when killing

> Andhakasura and tripurasura. Which means that the episodes of Siva were

> all past, by or before treta yuga. Hanuman's advice to Ravana " brahmA

> svayambhU: chaturAnano vA. rudra striNEtrastripurAntako vA... " is a proof

> that tripurasura vadham was much before the time of srirama.

> Now, there is a name in srivenkata sahasranamam, " tripurastrImAnabhanga: "

> that is one who outraged the modesty of wife of tripura demon.

> Just like tulasi's story, even tripura's wife was a chaste woman who went

> on a pilgrimage to kshetrams to pray for the longevity of her husband and

> security of her mAngalyam. At one place she saw very beautiful handsome

> Buddha who was digambara or nude and lost her heart to him and embraced

> him in ecstasy forgetting her mission. Of course, Buddha was unaffected by

> this embrace. This buddha was the avatAra of Vishnu meant to mislead all

> demons to hate vedas by his mesmerising words.

>

> Refer to names in Srivishnusahasranama " durArihA, shubhAngo

> lokasAranga:sutantu:.. kritAgama: .. suvarnabindurakshobhya:...

> sarvavAgIshvareshvara: mahAhrado mahagarto " which refer to buddhAvatAra

> much earlier to the last buddha.

>

> So once her chastity was lost it was easy for Rudra to kill tripurasura

> with the help of Vishnu.

> see " yasyAtmatAm tripurabhanga vidhAvadhAstvaM.. " in atimAnushastavam of

> KurattAlvAn.

> This shows that this buddha was in treta or krita yuga itself. Therefore

> it is not out of place to mention Bouddhamatam and Arhat and other

> bAhyamatams in brahmasUtras and it will not postdate brahmasutras.

>

> Besides, in srivishnupurAna 3-3, SriparAsara mentions that in every

> dvApara yuga one person is born with the identity to Vishnu, as vyAsa.

> Seeing the weakness and ignorance of people, God sends one to demarcate

> vedas into four parts. In this Vaivaswata manvantara in which 27

> chaturyugas have past the 28th is running now, ParAsara says that there

> have been 28 vedavyAsas so far and enumerates them. Highlights among them

> are BrahmA(first), prajApati (second) , SukrachArya (third), Indra,

> bruhaspati, vasishtha (shakti's father), bhAradvaja, goutama, vAlmIki,

> Jaya (in the 18th dvApara and this name also stands for 18 " tatO jayam

> udIrayEt " ), Shakti (parasara's father), Parasara himself in 26 th

> dvAparayuga, and the present vedavyAsa in 28th dvAparayuga known as

> krishnadvaipAyana who wrote mahAbhArata.

> Cf " krishnadvaipAyanam vyAsam viddhi nArayaNam prabhuM, kOhyanyO bhuvi

> maitrEya mahAbhAratakrit bhavEt " and parAsarabhattar's " namO nArAyaNAyEdam

> krishnadvaipAyanAtmanE. yadAmushyAyaNA vedA mahAbhAratapanchamA: " in

> bhagavadgunadarpanam.

> These may also give clue to the time of origin bAhyamatas which is not

> just 400 BC. It may be many yugas ago.

>

> dasan

> Ramanuja

>

> > Malolan Cadambi <mcadambi wrote:

>> Dear Scholars,

>>

>> I have some basic questions about the date of the Brahma Sutras of

>> Badarayana.

>>

>> Sampradaya identifies the identity of badarayana with Veda Vyasa, the

>> redactor of the Vedas, Itihaasa-s and Purana-s. The latter's age is

>> said to be around the end of the Treta Yuga, i.e around 3100 BCE.

>>

>> If Badarayana is identified with Veda Vyasa, some problems arise.

>>

>> This is because the brahma Sutras of badarayana refer to

>> Buddhist/Jaina/Naasthika doctrines which are known to have

>> historically been existent only after 400 BCE.

>>

>> If such be the case above, how is badarayana the same as Veda Vyasa?

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Malolan

>>

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