Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 - Saroja Ramanujam saranagathi-owner Saturday, November 04, 2006 8:33 AM virodhaparihara-questions-27 to 31 27. asthu, jnAnasvarupah AthmA,Anandhasvarupam thu na mrshyAmahE. It could be accepted that knowledge is the nature of the self. But it is not appropriate to say that the self is of the nature of bliss.In the world the joy is experienced only as an attribute as in the statement 'aham sukhee, I am happy,' Hence it is only being the dharma, attribute of the self, how can it be the nature of the self? Desika says that as in the case of knowledge here also there is no contradiction. AnandhadhvayasadhbhAvAth virOdhO nOpalabhyathE sruthirEva hi sarvathra pramANam ithi manmahE There is nothing that is incompatible because of the existence of two kinds of joy.For this sruthi alone is the valid authority. There are two kinds of joy, one experienced as the essence of the self and the other due to that rising out of contact with the world.The latter arises out of the dharmabhuthajnAna. The bliss experienced naturally by the self is the same always whereas the joy that arises out of wordly objects change.So the natural bliss which is the svarupa of the self and the joy that is the attribute of the self are not contrdictory to each other. 28.Evam AthmasvarupAnandhasya nithyaprakAsathve sathi anAdhikAlam aprakAsithasvarupAnandhah yOgadhasAyAm mukthidhasAyAm cha prakAsatha ithi vachanam apahAsyam. If the bliss that is the nature of the self is ever manifest, the statement that the bliss which is unmanifest from the beginning of existence manifests itself in the state of yOga and of release is ridiculous. Desika says that it is not so. vishayadviDHasambhEdhAth thirOdDhAnaprakAsayOh Anukoolyam purAvyaktham yOgAdhEvAvabhAsathe The manifestation of the bliss and its absence occur in respect of different circumstances and hence there is no contradiction between them. The joy which is unmanifest due to the will of the Lord because of Karma becomes manifest in the state of YOga.Though the natural bliss is always present it is not experienced due to karma and becomes manifest in the state of release. 29.sabdhAdhi vishayAnubhavarahithathaya bhagavdhanubhavarahithathayA cha kEvalasvrupAnubhavamAthram purushArTha mokshAbhyAm saha kaThamiva purushArThathayA paTithum yujyatha? The experience of the self alone (called Kaivalya) without the sense experience and without the experience of the Lord is mentioned as the salvation (that is, the paramapurushArTha, identical with moksha). How is it possible, is the question. The mukthi is said to be the state where the soul is experiencing bliss which is his real nature along with the Lord. Hence how can the state of kaivalya where the soul is experiencing his real nature alone can be cited as the state of release? Desika says, sruthvAnukoolyam AthmasThamdhrshtvA vA yOgadharsanE thadhanucchEdhasakthasya purushArTHathva vAgiyam Hearing about the self through the scriptures and on medtitating on it in Yoga one experiences the bliss of the self and continues in that state. This is known as kaivalya and denoted as the purushArTHa (moksha ) This is only oupachArikam, says Desika, like the statement 'thamEvam vidhvAn amrtha iha bhavathi,' knowing Him (Brahman) one becomes immortal here itself,' which is only laudatory. 30. nanu 'kaivalyam bhagavantham cha manthrOyam sAdhayishyathi'(brhd.Haritha.smrthi.3-40) ithi svarupAnubhavE kaivalyasabdhaprayOgAth, 'mukthih kaivalya nirvANa srEyo nissrEyasAmrtham,'(amarakosa-1-5-6) ithi kaivalyasya mukthiparyAyathvEna paTanAth nyAyabhooshaNAdhimathEshviva svAthmAnandhAnubhava Eva sAkshAth mokshah. bhagavadhanubhavasthu svAthmAnandhAnubhava siddhEhupAyavisEsho asthu In BrhadhhAreethas smrthi it is said that the mantra specified therein will secure the exclusive experience of the self and the Lord. In Amarakosa, the word kaivalya is denoted as being synonymous with mukthi, nirvANa,srEyas nissrEyas, amrtha, apavarga and moksha.Hence the word kaivalya should mean mukthi only, as claimed by the NyAya school to whom the release from duhkha is the bliss or moksha.The experience of the Lord is a means to attain kaivalya. Desika refutes this saying, sruthsmrtheethihAsAdhyaih vishNusEvA vimukthathA kaivalyavyavahArasthu sarvakarmanivrtthithah Sruthi, smrthi and purAnas etc. declare that the vishNusEva, experiencing the joy of service to the Lord alone is mukthi. It may be denoted as kaivalya only in the sense that in that state all karma has been destroyed and the self alone (kEvalam) remains. The real moksha, sAkshAth mOkshah, is defined by Desika as follows: By examining what has been said in the sruthi etc. one can conclude that mOksha is 'svarupaAvirbhAva poorvaka paramAthma prApthirupa paripurNa bhagavadhanubhavarasa parivAharupa bhagavathkainkaryaprApthih. That is, the moksha consists in the service of the Lord while being immersed in the essence of the complete experience of the Lord induced by attaining Him which precedes the manifestation of one's own nature.This can be termed as kaivalyam in as much as it is the exclusive experience of the Lord after the removal of karma caused by ajnAna and hence the self is free form embodiment and stays by itself alone. 31.Ye thu sishtAh thryo bhakthAh phalakAmA hi thE mathAh sarvE chyavanadharmANah prathibuddhasthu mOkshabhAk ithyuktha prkArEna aisvaryavath AthmAnubhavamAthrasyApi kshudhraphalathvAth chyavanadharmathvAccha nithyathvam thAvath Asankithum api na sakyathE. The three kinds of devotees who are desirous of results. Hence the swerve from the path to mOksha and only the fourth, the jnani attains mOksha.(MB.Shanthi.350-35) According to the above smrthi, even the desire of AthmAnubhava is declared as being impermanent like worldly prosperity,the state of kaivalya cannot be permanent one. But at the same time since one attains kaivalya only after the destruction of all karma he cannot lapse back to samsara. So it would mean that he finds himself neither here nor there. Desika says that it is not so. dhvAiviDhyamkevalasyAsya bhukthvaikO mOksham ApnuyAth anyasthu bhukthvA thadhbhOgamvishayam punarasnuthE There are two kinds of kaivalya. In one the aspirant experiences the self through spiritual discipline and as long as he is in that state he will not lapse back to samsara, but this experience is not permanent and he may lapse back to samsara. there is another kind of aspirant who has moksha as his goal and from the experience of the self he also attains the bhagavadhanubhava and moksha. Those who practise madhuvidhya, for instance, are said to live in other lOkas and then proceed to paramapadha. This is of course possible only to those who have also done bhakthiyOga along with jnanayOga.The mention of the path of light (archirAdhi) for one who is only striving for the experience of the self is acquired through brahmavidhya such as dhaharavidhya etc., that is the meditation on Brahman inside the lotus of the heart which has been elaborated in Sribhashya by Ramanuja. The attainment of paramapadha is ordained only for those who acquire paravidhya, the knowledge of Brahman.this is confirmed by EkAnthinah sadhA brahmaDhyAyinah yOginO hi yE thEshAm thathparam sThAnam yadhvai pasyanthi soorayah Those yogis, whose minds are always turned towards Brahman alone, attain the supreme state which is witnessed by the eternal souls. May god bless you, Dr. Saroja Ramanujam, M.A., Ph.D, Siromani in sanskrit. -- We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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