Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Aloha fellow kundalini's... What part of our being is strengthened by doing froggies? I find these the hardest, any number past 10 anyhow. thanks.....sat nam Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 > > What part of our being is strengthened by doing froggies? I find these > the hardest, any number past 10 anyhow. > > thanks.....sat nam Leslie > Dear Leslie: It makes the second chakra energy available to higher centers. Boosts creativity. Best wishes! Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Kundaliniyoga , Leslie McPherson <leslie wrote: > > Aloha fellow kundalini's... > > What part of our being is strengthened by doing froggies? I find these > the hardest, any number past 10 anyhow. > > thanks.....sat nam Leslie > how about the thighs...! and navel!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 ALoha Lesie, I am also new so take this with a grain of salt. I am doing a Kriya which has frogs at the end (108!) The set is for the lower chakra triangle and also called " the Ego Buster. " After my many frogs (up to 60 now per set) I can say my " core " or midsection and hips and upper legs feel stable and energized once the rubbery felling passes after a long relaxtion. Sat Nam! Sarab Jot Singh Kundaliniyoga , Leslie McPherson <leslie wrote: > > Aloha fellow kundalini's... > > What part of our being is strengthened by doing froggies? I find these > the hardest, any number past 10 anyhow. > > thanks.....sat nam Leslie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Awtar....the second chakra is your power chakra right? Leslie yogahs wrote: > > > > > > > What part of our being is strengthened by doing froggies? I find these > > the hardest, any number past 10 anyhow. > > > > thanks.....sat nam Leslie > > > > Dear Leslie: > > It makes the second chakra energy available to higher centers. Boosts > creativity. Best wishes! > Awtar Singh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Leslie ji, The " reason " for Froggies? The reason is because they are hard! That's the only reason we do them, because they are hard. If they were easy to do we wouldn't have to do them. But why are they hard? In that is the reason why we have to do them. We are working with a lot of sexual energy, first and third chakra energy, too. The sexual energy has quite a say in our mental, physical and emotional state, and doing frogs will press the entire meridian system to move this energy. Anything that is not potent (defeatist) and alive in the being is brought up. We often feel not very positive when doing our froggies but the end result is positivity, potency and potentiality. Make sure to layout out for as much as 11 minutes, afterward, to get the fully smoothed out effects. Then meditate out loud (my preference) Also, check the Archives using " Frog Pose " (the phrase " froggies " wont produce many results) Kundaliniyoga/msearch?query=frog+pose & submit=Searc\ h & charset=ISO-8859-1 <Kundaliniyoga/msearch?query=frog+pose & submit=Sear\ ch & charset=ISO-8859-1> Sat Nam, Dharam Millis, MA Leslie McPherson wrote: >Aloha fellow kundalini's... > >What part of our being is strengthened by doing froggies? I find these >the hardest, any number past 10 anyhow. > >thanks.....sat nam Leslie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Dharam....ah...these are the answers I am seeking. Thank you for your response. I am trying to understand how to work with sexuality in it's highest form but am confused. Anything not alive and defeatist, what does that mean? Does that mean raw, sexual energy, the not so positive sexual energy is moved up to the heart? Does that mean when we don't want to or can't have sex, we should aim for moving the energy up? Sexual energy is so WOW. So, I keep thinking/feeling there is more to it than meets the eye or how it is addressed in the western world/paradigm. How can sexual energy be " bad? " Why do we want to move it up? Does moving it up mean the sexual energy is in a higher place and that is the place we want to merge with another physically? Are there times when the sexual energy is appropriate in the 2nd chakra? I am sorry for all the questions but I am very confused about the sexual energy and the positive part of it and the negative... in truth....Leslie D h a r a m wrote: > > Leslie ji, > The " reason " for Froggies? The reason is because they are hard! > That's the only reason we do them, because they are hard. If they were > easy to do we wouldn't have to do them. But why are they hard? In that > is the reason why we have to do them. > We are working with a lot of sexual energy, first and third chakra > energy, too. The sexual energy has quite a say in our mental, physical > and emotional state, and doing frogs will press the entire meridian > system to move this energy. Anything that is not potent (defeatist) and > alive in the being is brought up. We often feel not very positive when > doing our froggies but the end result is positivity, potency and > potentiality. Make sure to layout out for as much as 11 minutes, > afterward, to get the fully smoothed out effects. Then meditate out loud > (my preference) > > Also, check the Archives using " Frog Pose " (the phrase " froggies " wont > produce many results) > > Kundaliniyoga/msearch?query=frog+pose & submit=Searc\ h & charset=ISO-8859-1 > <Kundaliniyoga/msearch?query=frog+pose & submit=Sear\ ch & charset=ISO-8859-1> > > <Kundaliniyoga/msearch?query=frog+pose & submit=Sear\ ch & charset=ISO-8859-1 > <Kundaliniyoga/msearch?query=frog+pose & submit=Sear\ ch & charset=ISO-8859-1>> > > Sat Nam, > Dharam > Millis, MA > > Leslie McPherson wrote: > > >Aloha fellow kundalini's... > > > >What part of our being is strengthened by doing froggies? I find these > >the hardest, any number past 10 anyhow. > > > >thanks.....sat nam Leslie > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Kundaliniyoga , Leslie McPherson <leslie wrote: > > Awtar....the second chakra is your power chakra right? > > Leslie Dear Leslie: Sorry I should have been more explicit... The first chakra is about security, the second about sexuality, creativity, the third is the power center (will power). Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2007 Report Share Posted May 18, 2007 Leslie McPherson wrote: >Dharam....ah...these are the answers I am seeking. Thank you for your >response. >I am trying to understand how to work with sexuality in it's highest >form but am confused. Anything not alive and defeatist, what does that >mean? > Yogiji would say that every thought that we follow must lead to happiness. Your intuition and mind must be sharp/quick enough to decide whether to go with a thought or not within 7 seconds. We have to know what happiness means for us, and have the courage to pursue it. > Does that mean raw, sexual energy, the not so positive sexual >energy is moved up to the heart? Does that mean when we don't want to >or can't have sex, we should aim for moving the energy up? Sexual >energy is so WOW. > Sexual energy is about our G.O.D. given right to feel a sense of " rightness " in your feeling and actions. That's what it looks light when it is flowing and nourishing one's whole being. By far, the greater percentage of sexual energy is for healing and creativity, and not simply energy release or procreation. Of course sex can be very nourishing and healing, if one has that orientation and maturity. The main thing is that it not screw with your head, and mess up your " meditation' or sense of inner peace. > So, I keep thinking/feeling there is more to it than >meets the eye or how it is addressed in the western world/paradigm. How >can sexual energy be " bad? " > It's bad when we indulge in it when our heart is not in it, or when we have unresolved fears/stuff around it. This is more often the reason people will have these really bad life experiences after a bad break up, or if they do some form of yoga that doesn't address the need to approach this very sacred energy with an attitude of respect (Ong Namo, Guru Dev Namo). Yogically, it is bad, real bad to ignore the need for the emotional work once it is brought into our consciousness by a practice. To " force " the energy of the second Chakra upward when it has not been made pure and cleansed will create all kinds of neurosis, pain and splits from our goodness and sincerity. Second Chakra is very watery and is where " illusion " (Disney) has it's home. Corporate America has us by the cajones in that they know how to keep a people feeling empty and unfulfilled until they cough up the bucks to get them jeans or that pickup truck. To them our psyche is a vast renewable resource to mine. In this respect, sexual energy is bad because it's an energy that keeps us wanting and needing something outside us to be satisfied, somehow. Traditional community used to fulfill this role for each of us. Second Chakra is about a strong, and often blind " longing to belong " to something or be part of someone else. This can be very destructive, as you can imagine, if that longing to be part of something bigger than ourselves would drive us to join the Nazi party (or it's modern day equivalents) lets say, or the Hell's Angels, or to be someone's else's sex slave. Unfulfilled orgiastic longing is the real demon, according to Wilhelm Reich. Numerologically, the Second Chakra/Second Body is that aspect of us that fully understanding the downside of any non-spiritual relationship....emotional and mental pain. I find that a Sadhana that is practiced in the Amrit Vela is the most perfect tool for regulating sexual energy. If I have an excess, my practice will smooth it out and distribute it for my whole being. If my energy is low, it is a pretty decent greatest aphrodisiac. There is tons of good info on this. " The Art of making Sex Sacred " (out of print but available) by Guru Terath Kaur is decent. Gururattana's " Sexuality & Spirituality " go/start.cgi/store/shop.html?showprod=P01003 is pretty good and has lots of good tools. Both a good investments. Also, this link is a pretty " stimulating " read http://www.sahej.com/Sexual-energy.html Lately, I'm observing that the divine dance of Shiva and Shakti are at play in some pretty subtle ways. It's just one place to go when bowing to the enormous potential in the Kundalini. It gives me a peace. Do your frogs! Bless, Dharam Millis, MA > Why do we want to move it up? Does moving >it up mean the sexual energy is in a higher place and that is the place >we want to merge with another physically? Are there times when the >sexual energy is appropriate in the 2nd chakra? I am sorry for all the >questions but I am very confused about the sexual energy and the >positive part of it and the negative... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 > How > can sexual energy be " bad? " Why do we want to move it up? Does moving > it up mean the sexual energy is in a higher place and that is the place > we want to merge with another physically? Are there times when the > sexual energy is appropriate in the 2nd chakra? Dear Leslie: I am assuming you are still opening these questions to anyone who'd like to offer an answer... Sexual energy may mean the energy is stuck in the second chakra. If it is, we feel this interesting energy but we don't feel the stuckness. If there is no stuckness the energy is just energy, we can turn it into a fully sexual experience that includes an open heart. When you practice " froggies " you will start to experience how the energy you feel becomes creative. You will want to create something that's in tune with your own talents. it is taht same energy that once felt sexual. Do you see? Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Aloha and good morning! I thank all for their responses and the time it took. I am still open......It is helping me understand. The topic will run out when it runs it's course. I hope it is helping other too! Now with this comment I have more pondering. I don't understand how if I feel sexual energy that means it is stuck? Would the stuckness Look/Feel more like I " need " to have sex when the energy arises? Would that feel like suffering because that " need " is not fulfilled? I am not sure what stuck looks/feels like? I want to be clear and aware about something so powerful in both ways that is - sex could run neurotic or healthy. When I look at the world and how it deals with sex it seems, for the most part, so unhealthy! sat nam.....Leslie yogahs wrote: > > > How > > can sexual energy be " bad? " Why do we want to move it up? Does moving > > it up mean the sexual energy is in a higher place and that is the place > > we want to merge with another physically? Are there times when the > > sexual energy is appropriate in the 2nd chakra? > > Dear Leslie: > > I am assuming you are still opening these questions to anyone who'd > like to offer an answer... > > Sexual energy may mean the energy is stuck in the second chakra. If it > is, we feel this interesting energy but we don't feel the stuckness. > > If there is no stuckness the energy is just energy, we can turn it > into a fully sexual experience that includes an open heart. > > When you practice " froggies " you will start to experience how the > energy you feel becomes creative. You will want to create something > that's in tune with your own talents. it is taht same energy that once > felt sexual. > > Do you see? > > Awtar Singh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 > Now with this comment I have more pondering. I don't understand how if > I feel sexual energy that means it is stuck? Would the stuckness > Look/Feel more like I " need " to have sex when the energy arises? Would > that feel like suffering because that " need " is not fulfilled? I am not > sure what stuck looks/feels like? I want to be clear and aware about > something so powerful in both ways that is - sex could run neurotic or > healthy. When I look at the world and how it deals with sex it seems, > for the most part, so unhealthy! > > sat nam.....Leslie > Dear Leslie: Energy is energy, it does not have a flavor, or a name... you just feel it flowing inside of you. It may be like a light electric current, a tingling, etc etc. When you feel horny, you recognize it as sexual. That energy brings you to be aware of your sexual center. So something makes you go there more than anywhere. That is a symptom of stuckness. That does not mean you have to have sex, right? Instead feel the energy for what it really is, not for what your interpretation of it is (which is " this is sexual energy " ). Do your " froggies " , a lot of them, and then feel how you feel afterwards. You may still feel horny. It may take a while. How to experience that the energy is stuck? When you feel a sexual feeling, something isn't fulfilled. Open yourself to what it would be like if life was freely flowing, if you let yourself love unconditionally, be loved unconditionally, if you invited yourself to be creative. If those personal expressions of creativity or unconditional love are not easily accessed, you will then experience that the energy is stuck. Blessings, Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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