neutral mind

[Guest guest]

Sat nam, everybody,

I haven't posted in a long time but I've been reading here.

 

I want to share something about the neutral mind. I have a situation

at work - it's a new job, just myself and one other person in the

office, who is my boss. I've had a pattern in the past of...after the

initial 'honeymoon' period, when everything seems wonderful, I start

to find things that are 'wrong' with the other person and to be

critical, just in my mind, toward them.

Same thing here - at first I thought this woman is wonderful, greatest

person on earth, etc.

Then I would get critical and think, oh she is a terrible person, etc.

 

And one day some words of Yogi Bhajan about the neutral mind came to

me. I can't remember the exact words - maybe somebody out there knows?

 

And I now try to be neutral - not to feel too good or too bad about

her. It helps a lot.

 

Perhaps this will help someone in their relationships.

 

regards,

Kartar Kaur

[Guest guest]

thanx

 

rasheedaas <rasheedaas wrote: Sat nam, everybody,

I haven't posted in a long time but I've been reading here.

 

I want to share something about the neutral mind. I have a situation

at work - it's a new job, just myself and one other person in the

office, who is my boss. I've had a pattern in the past of...after the

initial 'honeymoon' period, when everything seems wonderful, I start

to find things that are 'wrong' with the other person and to be

critical, just in my mind, toward them.

Same thing here - at first I thought this woman is wonderful, greatest

person on earth, etc.

Then I would get critical and think, oh she is a terrible person, etc.

 

And one day some words of Yogi Bhajan about the neutral mind came to

me. I can't remember the exact words - maybe somebody out there knows?

 

And I now try to be neutral - not to feel too good or too bad about

her. It helps a lot.

 

Perhaps this will help someone in their relationships.

 

regards,

Kartar Kaur

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Greetings

 

I'm new to this group and this is one of the first group emails I've

received and would like to offer additional thoughts here ~

 

There is never anything wrong with feeling good about someone -

always encourage those feelings within yourself - you are here on

this planet to experience joy - when you feel good about someone,

encourage that by noticing what it is that makes you feel good and

compliment others when they are giving you good feelings -

 

In my experience, I have found that it is perfectly normal in new

relationships to be on 'good behavior' for about 6 months -

recognizing this is important, because people tend to start becoming

more 'normal' and exhibiting sometimes not very nice behavior after

this initial time period. It's not necessarily that you're becoming

more critical - it's simply a normal transition in a relationship and

the time comes to realize that the behaviors you're noticing in the

other person are more 'normal' behaviors for that person.

 

You can simply decide to not take things personally - you can still

be happy in your job (or any other relationship) or you can choose to

end the relationship by moving on to something else that gives you

joy.

 

be happy

Emmess

 

>

> I want to share something about the neutral mind. I have a situation

> at work - it's a new job, just myself and one other person in the

> office, who is my boss. I've had a pattern in the past of...after

the

> initial 'honeymoon' period, when everything seems wonderful, I start

> to find things that are 'wrong' with the other person and to be

> critical, just in my mind, toward them.

> Same thing here - at first I thought this woman is wonderful,

greatest

> person on earth, etc.

> Then I would get critical and think, oh she is a terrible person,

etc.

>

> And one day some words of Yogi Bhajan about the neutral mind came to

> me. I can't remember the exact words - maybe somebody out there

knows?

>

> And I now try to be neutral - not to feel too good or too bad about

> her. It helps a lot.

>

> Perhaps this will help someone in their relationships.

>

> regards,

> Kartar Kaur

>

[Guest guest]

>

> And one day some words of Yogi Bhajan about the neutral mind came to

> me. I can't remember the exact words - maybe somebody out there knows?

 

maybe these ?

 

(...)

Negative mind tells you negative. Positive mind pulls up everything

negative from the subconscious... from the memory... and says, " Wait a

minute. We are two witnesses, subconscious and the memory. You

remember in 1976 this happened? You know, in 1932 it was read in the

newspaper? You know 200 years ago in the history of United States I

read that? " You go on enforcing. Memory and subconscious. Unfulfilled

dream... unfulfilled records of life... they join together with the

negative mind and enforce it, and that's the only positive you have.

Positive mind is meant to not touch the subconscious. Anybody whose

subconscious memories are related to the positive mind is negative.

And that's why the majority of us are negative.

(...)

Positive mind is, " This is it. This is negative. What is the other

side of the coin? " That's the positive. Without any help of memory in

subconscious. And then there's a third part where you have to go to.

It's the neutral mind. What you should do. You cannot do in life

anything by negative mind or positive mind, by negative thought or

positive thought, by negative emotion or positive emotion. You can't

do a thing, you can't move. Don't move; be still. And to conclude all

that strategy, you have nine seconds. If you cannot conclude the

entire mental strategy in 9 seconds, and be absolutely actively

prepared for it, that part of the confrontation of life, thought form

or situation or facet you have lost.

(...)

Every weakness in your mind is because you are not in touch with your

neutral mind. Neutral mind is when you are not bound down by the

negative force or the positive force. Then YOU are the force. Then

that's God. Look, if you are looking for God, there's no such thing.

It doesn't matter how religious you are, you have no touch of God. But

when you become a neutral person -- in the negative, positive

vibrations you remain neutral, when the pair of the opposites do not

affect you and higher altitude is received of that of Infinity, and

the personality becomes so dominant and so radiant, the person can

understand that within all, all is, and the effectiveness all becomes

one, that's God. Not what you think God is.

(...)

 

from sikhnet: http://tinyurl.com/yumlt3

 

Cheers

 

Martin

[Guest guest]

I read your posted and responses with great interest as I recently had a

similar experience. I took a job way outside my comfort zone because I was

searching for a way to serve and enthralled with the program director. The

honeymoon stage ended when she became critical of me, despite the fact that I

thought I was working harder than I ever had to learn the job and serve the

program. She was having personal problems and became abusive. She gossiped about

other employees I barely knew and I discovered that her bombastic passion earned

her no friends in the Administration. It was a great struggle; my dream job

with the boss from hell; in a two woman office!

 

Her criticism and moodiness took me back, triggered my life long need for

maternal approval, and could have run me off, would have run me off, if not for

the grounding and tools I have gained with KY. Many nights I would come home

in tears and sit in my shower until the water ran cold. One night I was

chanting and the answer came! My needy clients were not my service! The joy I

experienced helping them was my reward for serving the program. My boss WAS my

service! I could serve the program by making the situation in the office to

lerable for myself and by improving relations with the administration. It

worked.

 

I soon discovered that my boss was in need of my compassion not my fear. I

stopped taking her personally. I let her criticism and gossip flow over me like

a wave. I just kept coming back with grace. I guess I proved my

trustworthiness, or she is basking in the feedback from others, who knows? I

know I

learned another profound lesson about myself and the power of compassion with

the help of my blessed practice.

 

Even better, while she is still head and shoulders the worst supervisor I've

ever had, she has so many other wonderful qualities and her passion sustains

our program; I like her again.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sat nam,

The responses to my post have been so fascinating!

I keep learning.

 

Betty said:

 

" Sooner or later, the flaws of the person will become more appearant

and eventually increase because of my accentuated servilitude - the

person is tempted to exploit my availability. As a response, there

will come up within me feelings of being a " victim " , of hidden anger -

as well as physical signs of tiredness that are the result of both,

overworking and mental talk. "

 

Gosh, you mean I am not the only person in the world to experience this!?

I thank you for sharing, because I am aware that I do this too, but I

'forgot'.

I make myself servile, so the other treats me that way, then I get mad

at them.

ha- pretty silly.

 

Continuing to seek neutral space,

Kartar Kaur