Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 SAT NAM, Its very relieveing to see such fabulous discussions on this forum, especially the recent ones from Awtar and others.. After reading that I was tempted to ask about what I am going through. I am meeting many past life soulmates of mine and I am very sensitive to others feelings towards me. when we look into each others eye we reflect the very very intense deep deep love between us and that we have shared. After meeting them, Its very hard for me to be separate, feel like staying with them, and always want to experience that deep deep bright/shinning love. but we cannot since we all have families and committments. Missing this deep love brings intense sadness and I recognize the holes in my heart that were left when we had departed in our past lives. I experience burning sensation and sadness holes in my heart. I am struggling to find that same intense love within me? between me and GOD, many times I cry for it. Awtar, GRK and many others, What are your thoughts on this? Is romantic love different from God's love ? I really want that love , the deep deep love always...but how? Thank you lot, Akkama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Deer Akkama: Your yearning is your own guidance! Romantic love is no longer satisfying after a while because it is based on projection not on love. Once true love is found in one's heart and once our connection to true love is stable, the love we feel for others is free of attachment, free of hooks. Your yearning that comes from your experience with dear friends is your awakening to something deeper than romantic love. I say awakening even though I know you have been experiencing this for years now. Your sadness is no longer necessary. It comes from forgetting that nothing is taken away from you when you leave your friends. Instead a remembrance of deep love has been given to you! The sadness comes from your expectation that the love you experience comes from reuniting with your friends. That reuniting is just the trigger to remind you what is in you! The love you feel by being in the presence of others comes from deep within you, triggered by your openness to them and your history with them. Your experience of leaving that space is not due to not being with them but due to your expectation of 1) where the love experience comes from and 2) therefore where it should stop. Change your expectation. Learn to see that the source of love is God within, and that it is always there. There is no need for it to stop. When you have a chance to be with others and be reminded of that deep love, also remember its true source! When you finally make the shift of awareness, and it will come by grace, not by will, you will know true love! Blessings, Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 The only thing I can offer is to please don't focus on what you feel you don't have. That blocks all good and positive energy from entering and healing. You do have love, it never fails, fades or dies. (It does change, shift and grow.) That would be like saying the sun doesn't shine at night, when it actually does, but we just don't see it! Open yourself up to the positive energy, the love that you have and let it shine, let it flow from you to others daily, spreading the blessings and the blessing and love you will receive will be ten-fold. ~ hari nam kaur akkamahadevi avanti <akku96 wrote: SAT NAM, Its very relieveing to see such fabulous discussions on this forum, especially the recent ones from Awtar and others.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Sat Nam to everyone, I felt the same experience 5 days ago, I was on chat and I knew a man by e.mail...after one day we stayed 15 hours on calling, the day after we decided to meet each other and something of special come!!! I saw his eyes and I start to cry...I cryed for 1 hour or more, he cryed too. We start to kiss each other we were under a big church and the bells started to sing....but was night about 11 pm..... I understood that I sow his eyes in another person and I felt to much love in my heart. He doesn't praticse yoga but he is buddhist, and he told me that when he saw my eyes in chat he felt " I have to call her, I need to meet her... " . So for two days I cryed a lot when I was thinking about him. Now we think that we are a couple... I can understand you. Sat NamOnkar Kaur (Paola Natangeli) Kundaliniyoga: akku96: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 06:55:43 -0800Kundalini Yoga Past Life and deep Love SAT NAM,Its very relieveing to see such fabulous discussions on this forum, especially the recent ones from Awtar and others..After reading that I was tempted to ask about what I am going through.I am meeting many past life soulmates of mine and I am very sensitive to others feelings towards me.when we look into each others eye we reflect the very very intense deep deep love between us and that we have shared.After meeting them, Its very hard for me to be separate, feel like staying with them, and always want to experience that deep deep bright/shinning love. but we cannot since we all have families and committments.Missing this deep love brings intense sadness and I recognize the holes in my heart that were left when we had departed in our past lives. I experience burning sensation and sadness holes in my heart.I am struggling to find that same intense love within me? between me and GOD, many times I cry for it.Awtar, GRK and many others,What are your thoughts on this? Is romantic love different from God's love ? I really want that love , the deep deep love always...but how?Thank you lot,AkkamaTired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Sat Nam, That was beautiful Awtar. The following is on the same theme. This is what I am teaching in my workshop in Encinitas, CA this Sunday Nov. 11. I wish you all could attend! Anyone close enough to join us, let me know. Emotional energy always moves and needs an object for its desire. We generally focus our love outside ourselves. When our emotional energy is projected outside ourselves, we project neediness. We are trying to find a union outside ourselves to substitute for the union we must find within. This creates problems. Don't we know! When we find something or someone that satisfies us temporarily, we become attached to it. When we cannot find what we think we want, we become depressed and agitated. When we are deprived of our external object, we are traumatized because we no longer feel whole. Auric separation creates deep anguish. Our cup overflows with tears. Our emotional body needs something to love. Loving Spirit and loving our physical body and its sensations gives our emotional body something to do. When we love both Spirit and Matter we contain both spiritual and emotional energy in our physical body. Our love creates an alchemical reaction by which we embody Spirit and spiritualize matter. Then we are able to love without attachment, because we are always loving Love itself inside ourselves. We become very magnetic. And we feel very satisified. And we can truly love because we experience what Love is. It requires spiritual discipline to reach this state of consciousness. So we practice this while we do our KY and meditation. It is a beautiful practice. Blessings, Guru Rattana :+) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 i an intrested in learning about my past life.i am in chennai. who do i approach.? akkamahadevi avanti <akku96 wrote: SAT NAM, Its very relieveing to see such fabulous discussions on this forum, especially the recent ones from Awtar and others.. After reading that I was tempted to ask about what I am going through. I am meeting many past life soulmates of mine and I am very sensitive to others feelings towards me. when we look into each others eye we reflect the very very intense deep deep love between us and that we have shared. After meeting them, Its very hard for me to be separate, feel like staying with them, and always want to experience that deep deep bright/shinning love. but we cannot since we all have families and committments. Missing this deep love brings intense sadness and I recognize the holes in my heart that were left when we had departed in our past lives. I experience burning sensation and sadness holes in my heart. I am struggling to find that same intense love within me? between me and GOD, many times I cry for it. Awtar, GRK and many others, What are your thoughts on this? Is romantic love different from God's love ? I really want that love , the deep deep love always...but how? Thank you lot, Akkama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 > > i an intrested in learning about my past life.i am in chennai. who do i approach.? > Dear Akkama: Before you approach someone who can tell you about your past lives, I would suggest you read a couple of books by Dr. Brian Weiss: Many lives, many masters and Same soul, many bodies These books made me realize 2 things: 1) It is not just knowing one's past lives that heals but reliving certain parts of our past lives and sometimes the deaths and the time between lives. In other words having someone tell me my past lives does not give me any realization in and of itself; no experience, no healing. And, 2) after reading so many examples from Brian Weiss, I made a leap of faith and I just knew that I have past experiences that brought me here and now and it no longer matters, because what matters is what I choose to do with who I am right now! The rest is simply special effects. The experiences you have that are so incredible are just special effects until you can sustain the light and the love on your own. And that comes by raising your vibration and making your nervous system strong (Kundalini Yoga is ideal for this). So smile on your experiences and know there is something beyond what you know that is awaiting you. Allow yourself to let go of what seems so incredible at this time. Give it up, so you can open to something beyond what you know. Let go of all these friends, for now, they can only limit you at this time! You are keeping yourself in illusion by holding on to the experience you have together. Run away so you can find yourself! And when you have, when your love is pure and stable, you can come back and help them! If the two realizations I describe above aren't making sense yet to you, please read the books and perhaps you will have your own epiphany from reading them... something more valuable to you because it will come from your own experience, not mine. Blessings and love, Awtar singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 --- > Sat Nam What a beautiful, authentic response, Awtar. Thank you for your humble wisdom. I feel your longing, Akkama, because I have felt it too. Years ago, I too had experienced reacquainting myself with a 'soul-mate' who, I was convinced, was the man I 'should have' married etc...Needless to say, though I love this man dearly still and will be a lifelong friend, the drama of it was not grounding or affirming to my soul. As Awtar had so eloquently replied, I didn't have the awareness to ground the light and the love for myself and was looking to this man to deliver my happiness. Years later now, I am so grateful for the experience of it, as the pain of my fractured ego would be a catalyst for deeper inquiry. I know now that I was starting to fall in love with myself during that time, so it makes sense that I needed to see where I was loving myself conditionally (making my happiness dependent on my relationships). I believe we can look at the mirrors in our lives to bring us back to ourselves. This man that I speak of knew that we would only bring pain to each others lives if we pursued a relationship (I was, and am, married with children). I was right to want more for myself, and I am so glad that when he came into my life I was able to feel broken hearted, but my heart just broke open, not apart. Many Blessings, Shanti, Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Dearest Awtar/GRK and others, Clarification, The below question was not posed by me. I have already taken your suggestion on the recommeneded books from previous mails and I am reading them. In fact, I bought " Only Love is real.. " and " Many Lives, Many Masters " as well. The book " only Love is real by Brian is very nice and an eye opener. I am really blessed. In any case , your bleow response is just fabulous and the best of all for me. it will help me.... THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, SAT NAM Akkam yogahs <kundalini_yoga wrote: > > i an intrested in learning about my past life.i am in chennai. who do i approach.? > Dear Akkama: Before you approach someone who can tell you about your past lives, I would suggest you read a couple of books by Dr. Brian Weiss: Many lives, many masters and Same soul, many bodies These books made me realize 2 things: 1) It is not just knowing one's past lives that heals but reliving certain parts of our past lives and sometimes the deaths and the time between lives. In other words having someone tell me my past lives does not give me any realization in and of itself; no experience, no healing. And, 2) after reading so many examples from Brian Weiss, I made a leap of faith and I just knew that I have past experiences that brought me here and now and it no longer matters, because what matters is what I choose to do with who I am right now! The rest is simply special effects. The experiences you have that are so incredible are just special effects until you can sustain the light and the love on your own. And that comes by raising your vibration and making your nervous system strong (Kundalini Yoga is ideal for this). So smile on your experiences and know there is something beyond what you know that is awaiting you. Allow yourself to let go of what seems so incredible at this time. Give it up, so you can open to something beyond what you know. Let go of all these friends, for now, they can only limit you at this time! You are keeping yourself in illusion by holding on to the experience you have together. Run away so you can find yourself! And when you have, when your love is pure and stable, you can come back and help them! If the two realizations I describe above aren't making sense yet to you, please read the books and perhaps you will have your own epiphany from reading them... something more valuable to you because it will come from your own experience, not mine. Blessings and love, Awtar singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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