Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 SAT NAM Nirvair Singh and all others, Your insight fills my heart with joy. Felt very blessed Thankyou. This is what I experienced, Sometime in March I received messages from YB/my inner Guru that our friend was a soulmate of mine. The energy was/is so so intense that I cannot descrie it. Ever since then I used to go in total bliss just looking at their name on a paper, I could smell their presence even though not physically present, my subtle body can sense what they go through and their feelings very accurately. We have even tested ourselves when we think of each other. My heart tells me that we are the same soul split into 2 bodies and that our souls have to merge together in GOD.. something like a Twin Flame and cannot be separated at all because my subtle body gets pricked if anything happens to them instantenously!! so I cannot run away for sure since it is like they are in me!!!.. Now the question is how do I not be attached but at the same time love them!.. I now know I can do it with the all the great advice I have received from Awtar, GRK , Nirvair and Many others on the forum. But there is still something that I would like to undestand better to Nirvair Singh's insight. " You say that we have to release them to fulfil their destiny and know there is more and more love for you to receive.. " could you please elaborate on this? What do you mean by releasing them? I experience them as my own/same soul so dont know where/ what to release ... Thank you all Akkama nsk_26 <nsk_26 wrote: As we move toward 2012, life, transformation and consciousness is speeding up. What took many years to accomplish will occur in days or minutes. Doing past life work with clients, I notice that the phenomena of finding, m Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Please take me off your email list - the volume is too much......thank you Kundaliniyoga: akku96: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:20:19 -0800Re: Kundalini Yoga Past Lives & Soul Mates - Nirvair singh's response SAT NAM Nirvair Singh and all others,Your insight fills my heart with joy. Felt very blessed Thankyou.This is what I experienced, Sometime in March I received messages from YB/my inner Guru that our friend was a soulmate of mine. The energy was/is so so intense that I cannot descrie it.Ever since then I used to go in total bliss just looking at their name on a paper, I could smell their presence even though not physically present, my subtle body can sense what they go through and their feelings very accurately. We have even tested ourselves when we think of each other. My heart tells me that we are the same soul split into 2 bodies and that our souls have to merge together in GOD.. something like a Twin Flame and cannot be separated at all because my subtle body gets pricked if anything happens to them instantenously!! so I cannot run away for sure since it is like they are in me!!!.. Now the question is how do I not be attached but at the same time love them!.. I now know I can do it with the all the great advice I have received from Awtar, GRK , Nirvair and Many others on the forum.But there is still something that I would like to undestand better to Nirvair Singh's insight. " You say that we have to release them to fulfil their destiny and know there is more and more love for you to receive.. " could you please elaborate on this? What do you mean by releasing them? I experience them as my own/same soul so dont know where/ what to release ... Thank you allAkkamansk_26 <nsk_26 wrote: As we move toward 2012, life, transformation and consciousness isspeeding up. What took many years to accomplish will occur in days orminutes. Doing past life work with clients, I notice that thephenomena of finding, m Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make your homepage.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagl\ ine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Akkama: I'd like to hear what Nirvair Singh has to say to your question. I am sure it is hard with a someone with the same soul. I come back to the suggestion I made before about not letting oneself be distracted by special effects. And sharing a soul with someone is special effects. It is your own love for the self that is at sake... and we each need to learn to love what is different from the self. Because in the end your spiritual growth depends only on you (well not quite, we're all in this together and we are all helping each other when we forgive or pray for each other or send healing...) I had an experience with one of my teachers who is on the other side. I was looking at his photo and I felt his encouragement to bridge the distance between us. I had not realized I made him so much better than I am. My heart was wide open and I started to cry. I allowed my resistance to coming closer to him to dissolve. I did this for a few minutes. The following day I discovered I had the feeling that I could be anyone I met. I could live their life, I could be them. I just happened to be me this time around. It wasn't an intellectual realization, the experience was in my body. By breaking some of the distance with my teacher I was actually allowing myself to be closer to all human beings! That is what love does. Whereas in your case, if I am hearing you right, your attraction to what you experience with your soul partner creates an exclusivity, and prevents feeling closer to all the other souls. So start being interested in other souls, bridging that distance, and remember that what you feel with your soul partner is what is coming between you and anyone... seek... that's how you overcome the sense of exclusivity. Blessings, Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Dear Akkama, Release them often means accepting being separated from your soul mate (if that is your situation), letting go of the pain of that, and trusting that there is a reason and a purpose for not being together. Also by focusing on the other's highest and best good, it takes the focus off your own pain. If you can do that then you've become a better person and the quality of your relationships will improve and your self-love will grow. That will attract even more love to you. Your situation sounds truly unique - wonderful and challenging. For you releasing them may mean feeling all the intense connection between you and asking for clarity about why it is that way. And at the same time living your life as fully as possible. Perhaps you two are meant to be together, I don't know your situation. But for sure, you are here for a divine purpose and hopefully this relationship is serving that purpose. Nirvair ====================================================================== But there is still something that I would like to undestand better to Nirvair Singh's insight. " You say that we have to release them to fulfil their destiny and know there is more and more love for you to receive.. " could you please elaborate on this? What do you mean by releasing them? I experience them as my own/same soul so dont know where/ what to release ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 hi all, I want to share this a very common thing to understand. as common and simple things are usually appear complex to us. Definitely on your spritual path , you will experience past, and you may get in contact with souls you have lived with in past..... now these are thoughts what we see in our mind. this helps us to understand who exactly we are ( we are part of God, atama parmatama) so our soul mate in end of the spritual journey you will find is God. From where we have left( born , started ) to where we have to reach ( same The God, Wahiguru, Omkar, almighty or alhaa ) this also tell us do not get involed emotionally to each other. This means " sanjoog vejoog duee kaar chlavahae " . We meet each other to get separated. So we meet some souls again and again, and live together. so pls keep on going and enjoy your spritual journey of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 SAT NAM Nirvair and Awtar, Below are somethings that I thought to share, In this case which seems very unique indeed, I can literally feel my soulmate subtle body very strongly at times and my intution (first voice ..) very strongly tells me that that bond will never ever go away. I rejoice feeling those subtle bodies together. It feels in my body, moreso when I totally relax or when I am doing yoga, it is there with me all the time atleast automatically connects many times in a day...:-). A very strong drive of love from heart and not other desires towards the person physically. I am aware of the impermenance of external things and do practice finding God inside of me and in all things surrounding me. Now, I will emphasize more trying to see this phenomenon like Awtar says in and around me. I totally surrender and " Accept the moment as it is " and pray for guidance, it clears many times and feels very good. Now, one thing for sure. It came to me as my Guru's gift with UTTER SURITY and I have nodoubt even to the least about that. Only thing, I shall add will be to not be attached or have any expectations to that and practice more being in the moment, connecting with Inner GOD within me.That way whatever it is ( same soul or not ) Guru will show/guide my way as has been doing for me ever since. Thanks again everybody, Akkama Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Sat Nam, Concerning the concept of " releasing them. " Our ultimate spiritual goal is to merge our soul back into the universal soul. We do this alone, not with anyone else. We aren't there yet for sure, but if we keep that in mind, then we can have relationship goals that are in harmony with this goal. And we might have better luck in maintaining relationships for longer periods of time. (If it is of course in our higher good and we make this choice and live by it.) We are not here to attach ourselves to another person, but to HELP SET EACH OTHER FREE to be who we are, to learn what we need to learn and to evolve so that we each get closer to our goal of soul liberation. This is why any from of attachment is a formula for separation. If we observe our relationships, we all find that sure enough any form of co-dependency creates situations that required us to be alone for our own soul growth and individuation. Our lesson is to train ourselves to maintain the high experience and connection without the need to have the physical presence and attachment to the person who helped us tap into that experience. Other people are catalysts, not substitutes for missing pieces within ourselves that need to be awakened. Our experience with someone else may ignite a deeper connection with universal love. But this is universal energy that is in us all and connects us all. We have to move to a higher level of consciousness to live in this reality. Shifting consciousness is sometimes painful. But it always moves us to great joy and peace. Blessings, Guru Rattana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 << " Release them often means accepting being separated from your soul mate (if that is your situation), letting go of the pain of that, and trusting that there is a reason and a purpose for not being together. " >> I recently had an experience of this sort of thing with a student. He came to me upset because he'd tried everything to be together with a woman he believed was his soulmate. Since first he saw her, he knew it was her, etc. Well, she wasn't having any of it. Not because she didn't like him, but rather the things in her life didn't allow it, she said. This created a bit of a catch22 for him and his negative mind got a hold of it-- " Is she telling the truth, or just being polite? Should I wait for her? " " What if I move on and then she comes back only to be hurt by me having moved on, etc., etc., etc. " He was pretty beat up over this when he came to speak with me. I explained that everything comes from the one universal source and everything goes back to it. I pointed out that he came here to this life to have an experience so that he could contribute something and that this experience he was having with the woman was also coming through him... the experience of not being with his chosen one. He agreed that he was a co-creator of the experience because everything is connected to and from this one source. Once he accepted that 'not' having what he wanted was all part of the plan, everything began to open up for him. The relationship with the supposed soulmate went from one of attachment to acceptance and became much richer. He was able to give more of himself and interact more with her. More importantly, another woman came into his life who was seemingly perfect-- they had the same interests and just loved spending time with one another and it seemed effortless. Acceptance will give you this. If you re-member that it's all coming from you, even the stuff that doesn't feel so good, an acceptance comes and detachment follows and this opens up a flow for the universe to deliver the goods. Remember the Rolling Stones song... " You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you find, you get what you need. " Who knew Mick Jagger was such a sage? Easier said than done? Not with Kundalini Yoga. KY gives you the neutral mind and the energy to practice that detachment and to command the mind so it doesn't overwhelm you and magnetically draw you into a negative space. Keep up, keep up, keep up. Sat Nam Patrick ~ Jai Gopal www.YBC40.com - Kundalini Yoga Boot Camp for Self-Mastery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Sat Naam Guru Rattana; I really loved the way you so eloquently expressed all these ideas. The perspectives you offered here are so central to understanding our spiritual journey, as it relates to relationships! Thank you! Wahe Guru! Nam Hari K, Eugene OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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