Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Oh and for backing with the bible. Psa 826 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High , " zappy3491 " <zappy3491 wrote: > > Well I don't know if its K or just me growing up more, but I am > understanding more and more things, seems more quickly than ever. God > is a lot more understandable, I have gone from total atheist - > agnostic - general belief in god, very little belief in the bible. > > Not really sure if this is the right place to ask but most of you seem > generally knowledgeable about God, more so than the average ignorant > Christian of todays society. So tell me this, why does is God called God? > > Every person was made in the image of god, thus the divine half(crown > chakra related to this) and also the animal side(the root chakra > related). The only real difference b/t us and god is the animal > inside the person, so why is god any better than us? > > Almost every thing god can do we can do with what is called today > psionics, this is limited though because the animal inside us > restricts the divine and makes us unable to complete every thing. > > So was Jesus just a man without the animal instincts of todays man? > > So if some one could answer my questions, greatly appreciated even if > in wrong place =/. > > Now to learn teleportation!!!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I don't know diddly squat about why God is call God, except that is the name ego ruled man gave the source of all that is. @@@ So was Jesus just a man without the animal instincts of todays man?@@@@ The way I see it the animal in us is one and the same as the ego self and I do believe Jesus had an ego self the same as any other person. Jesus was a man perfected to the point he was one with God/the source. He was in complete control over his ego self..it served him rather than like most of, if not all the rest of mankind who's ego self rules over them in most instantances. Doing the gnostic courses (all 3 three of them) last year on Gnosticweb.com helped me to be more aware of just how much the ego controls. It is a sly little rascal. From what I have read, there have been others before Jesus who where born of a " virgin " and without the male human having apart in the conception. I don't think this would mean that he did not have an ego/animal self for he would not be fully human if he did not have that part. He was a perfect human, in the perfect image of God, which made him one with God. If your evey thought, action, emotion was the same as the source would that make you 'one' and the same as that source? teleporting!!!!! great ambition. Lovebeautytruth CC , " zappy3491 " <zappy3491 wrote: > > Well I don't know if its K or just me growing up more, but I am > understanding more and more things, seems more quickly than ever. God > is a lot more understandable, I have gone from total atheist - > agnostic - general belief in god, very little belief in the bible. > > Not really sure if this is the right place to ask but most of you seem > generally knowledgeable about God, more so than the average ignorant > Christian of todays society. So tell me this, why does is God called God? > > Every person was made in the image of god, thus the divine half (crown > chakra related to this) and also the animal side(the root chakra > related). The only real difference b/t us and god is the animal > inside the person, so why is god any better than us? > > Almost every thing god can do we can do with what is called today > psionics, this is limited though because the animal inside us > restricts the divine and makes us unable to complete every thing. > > So was Jesus just a man without the animal instincts of todays man? > > So if some one could answer my questions, greatly appreciated even if > in wrong place =/. > > Now to learn teleportation!!!!! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Yes, teleportation, one of the things i wish i could do =D. Great part is I know its possible! , " crazycats711 " <crazycats711 wrote: > > I don't know diddly squat about why God is call God, except that is > the name ego ruled man gave the source of all that is. > > @@@ So was Jesus just a man without the animal instincts of todays > man?@@@@ > > The way I see it the animal in us is one and the same as the ego self > and I do believe Jesus had an ego self the same as any other person. > Jesus was a man perfected to the point he was one with God/the > source. He was in complete control over his ego self..it served him > rather than like most of, if not all the rest of mankind who's ego > self rules over them in most instantances. Doing the gnostic courses > (all 3 three of them) last year on Gnosticweb.com helped me to be > more aware of just how much the ego controls. It is a sly little > rascal. From what I have read, there have been others before Jesus > who where born of a " virgin " and without the male human having apart > in the conception. I don't think this would mean that he did not have > an ego/animal self for he would not be fully human if he did not have > that part. He was a perfect human, in the perfect image of God, which > made him one with God. If your evey thought, action, emotion was the > same as the source would that make you 'one' and the same as that > source? > > teleporting!!!!! great ambition. > > Lovebeautytruth > CC > > > , " zappy3491 " > <zappy3491@> wrote: > > > > Well I don't know if its K or just me growing up more, but I am > > understanding more and more things, seems more quickly than ever. > God > > is a lot more understandable, I have gone from total atheist - > > agnostic - general belief in god, very little belief in the bible. > > > > Not really sure if this is the right place to ask but most of you > seem > > generally knowledgeable about God, more so than the average ignorant > > Christian of todays society. So tell me this, why does is God > called God? > > > > Every person was made in the image of god, thus the divine half > (crown > > chakra related to this) and also the animal side(the root chakra > > related). The only real difference b/t us and god is the animal > > inside the person, so why is god any better than us? > > > > Almost every thing god can do we can do with what is called today > > psionics, this is limited though because the animal inside us > > restricts the divine and makes us unable to complete every thing. > > > > So was Jesus just a man without the animal instincts of todays man? > > > > So if some one could answer my questions, greatly appreciated even > if > > in wrong place =/. > > > > Now to learn teleportation!!!!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 To me God is the infinite energy source, creativity and intelligence of the whole, like the human body, and we are the cells. Nothing is better then the other, we are all part of the one that is everything. God created us in it's image: as in, we are bestowed with all the divine traits and will go on to be creators of universes and suns etc. To me Jesus was a man who became an ascended master, before his life time as jesus he may have ascended many times. A powerful master sent in to do a job. No different to you or me. I'm sure jesus had to walk a path and seperate himself from his ego also or animal side as you put it. Anyone can achieve this in one life time I believe. Having other life times in which one has ascended would , I assume, help some do it with more ease. The thing is , we live in the world of form, so, before we can reach our full potential we have to become more like the light. This takes work and that is what we are here to do. Every being is precious and a miracle, everyone is god and god is everyone. God is just the original energy force that all creation came from, the original mother/father of all life. Thats the way i see it, Much love and God bless, Elektra x x x --- zappy3491 <zappy3491 wrote: > Well I don't know if its K or just me growing up > more, but I am > understanding more and more things, seems more > quickly than ever. God > is a lot more understandable, I have gone from total > atheist - > agnostic - general belief in god, very little > belief in the bible. > > Not really sure if this is the right place to ask > but most of you seem > generally knowledgeable about God, more so than the > average ignorant > Christian of todays society. So tell me this, why > does is God called God? > > Every person was made in the image of god, thus the > divine half(crown > chakra related to this) and also the animal side(the > root chakra > related). The only real difference b/t us and god > is the animal > inside the person, so why is god any better than us? > > Almost every thing god can do we can do with what is > called today > psionics, this is limited though because the animal > inside us > restricts the divine and makes us unable to complete > every thing. > > So was Jesus just a man without the animal instincts > of todays man? > > So if some one could answer my questions, greatly > appreciated even if > in wrong place =/. > > Now to learn teleportation!!!!! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Well,zappy,Ever since my awakening I felt that we are God and God is us.I hope this answers your question and it simply means that we all have a little part of him in us and that he is in all of us. Love,Nicole , " zappy3491 " <zappy3491 wrote: > > Oh and for backing with the bible. > > Psa 826 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the > most High > > , " zappy3491 " > <zappy3491@> wrote: > > > > Well I don't know if its K or just me growing up more, but I am > > understanding more and more things, seems more quickly than ever. God > > is a lot more understandable, I have gone from total atheist - > > agnostic - general belief in god, very little belief in the bible. > > > > Not really sure if this is the right place to ask but most of you seem > > generally knowledgeable about God, more so than the average ignorant > > Christian of todays society. So tell me this, why does is God called > God? > > > > Every person was made in the image of god, thus the divine half (crown > > chakra related to this) and also the animal side(the root chakra > > related). The only real difference b/t us and god is the animal > > inside the person, so why is god any better than us? > > > > Almost every thing god can do we can do with what is called today > > psionics, this is limited though because the animal inside us > > restricts the divine and makes us unable to complete every thing. > > > > So was Jesus just a man without the animal instincts of todays man? > > > > So if some one could answer my questions, greatly appreciated even if > > in wrong place =/. > > > > Now to learn teleportation!!!!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 My beliefs are in line with yours Elektra... at least I think they are from what I read. To me, all are ONE. We are created in the same image as God because we are literally and figuratively part of the body of God. All that is, from our perspective, is everything residing on the interior of God; i.e. we exist inside God's inner universe. And likewise, each of us contains our own inner universe. As above, so below. To our own inner systems, we are God. Therefore God is dynamic, and also relative to the observer. This brings together the ideas of omnipotence, omnipresence, and omniscience. I'm not the greatest with words so I hope some of what I said made sense! Thanks for the thought-provoking post. love & light ~Jen~ , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > To me God is the infinite energy source, creativity > and intelligence of the whole, like the human body, > and we are the cells. > Nothing is better then the other, we are all part of > the one that is everything. > God created us in it's image: as in, we are bestowed > with all the divine traits and will go on to be > creators of universes and suns etc. > > To me Jesus was a man who became an ascended master, > before his life time as jesus he may have ascended > many times. A powerful master sent in to do a job. No > different to you or me. I'm sure jesus had to walk a > path and seperate himself from his ego also or animal > side as you put it. Anyone can achieve this in one > life time I believe. > Having other life times in which one has ascended > would , I assume, help some do it with more ease. > > The thing is , we live in the world of form, so, > before we can reach our full potential we have to > become more like the light. This takes work and that > is what we are here to do. > Every being is precious and a miracle, everyone is god > and god is everyone. > > God is just the original energy force that all > creation came from, the original mother/father of all > life. > > Thats the way i see it, > Much love and God bless, > Elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Om Namah shivay, Guruji your previous answers were quite healing to my burning soul But there is another question. Is my imagination correct i think god to the smallest even small then a parmanu(atom) and powerful then every energy on this earth. that is why is he is everywhere and he know everything. And if not how would you define him. Please clear my doubts about god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Sat Nam. God is you, not a separate entity, but you; hard to grasp, but true. Foot note: when you write about God and not about pseudo gods, God is always written in capitals; that's an automatic distinction for the reader of your piece. Just thought you'd like to know. gaurav_ahl <gaurav_ahl wrote: Om Namah shivay, Guruji your previous answers were quite healing to my burning soul But there is another question. Is my imagination correct i think god to the smallest even small then a parmanu(atom) and powerful then every energy on this earth. that is why is he is everywhere and he know everything. And if not how would you define him. Please clear my doubts about god Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 Dea Gaurav > > Please clear my doubts about god > The answer suggested by the Traveler is true: God is You, You are God! We have a chant in Kundalini Yoga: " God and me, me and God are one " . And if you push the image one step further that also means that you and I are the same. That you are the same as your most beloved friends and also as your enemies or anyone you have struggles with... When I meditated on bridging the distance between myself and a teacher who has passed on, the next day I felt that no matter who I was looking at, or thinking about, I knew there was no difference. I could be them, they could be me. The distance we feel between each other is simply there because we create it. Why? Partly because it's been set up this way so we could experience our free will. But we preserve the distance because we want to prove to the world that we are worth something. If we accepted that we could be the worst rapist or the most beautiful angel then we would stop blaming each other and we would stop trying to prove that we are good, we would drop any personal ambition. That's the way to go! But who dares do it? We prefer to think of ourselves different. And in doing so, we separate ourselves from God as well. So we create a strange situation where we don't feel we deserve to claim our Godliness: that would be presumptuous, right? And because of that then we feel we have to prove that we are still worth something. So we beat up on each other. If you don't believe me, ask yourself if there is any group in the world, or any person that you don't feel better than they are? And I also hear a different question in your words. Perhaps it came out the way it did above because you wrote in English and not in your native tongue. In English it is not a definition of God you are asking, but to clear doubts about God. That is an interesting way of asking the question because I don't think any definition of God is useful. I don't think it helps to say God is this or God is that. To meditate while chanting " God and me, me and God are one " is different, it is not just an intellectual exercise. To clear doubts you would have to have an experience of the divine, or of the infinite... WOW! Now that's something you would never forget. I would ask you to reflect on your own life. Have you ever experienced something beyond what you expected? What did that feel like? Now meditate on reducing the distance between you and a beloved teacher. Continue doing that until you feel that you have made some progress... and then share your experience. Blessings, Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Sat nam, No one can clear another's doubts about God. Our existential doubts cannot be eliminated by beliefs or proof. Perhaps there is a mathematical formula for God, but an empirical approach cannot satisfy us because our mind cannot elevate high enough to compute or comprehend at that level. Unquestioned faith comes from either direct experience or a deep inner knowing. So if you desire to clear your own doubts, you have to increase your awareness and expand your personal experience. Pay attention. Listen. And relax into your body and out of your mind. Sat Nam, Guru Rattana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Kundaliniyoga , " Guru Rattana " <gururattan wrote: > > Sat nam, > > > > No one can clear another's doubts about God. Our existential doubts cannot be eliminated by beliefs or proof. Perhaps there is a mathematical formula for God, but an empirical approach cannot satisfy us because our mind cannot elevate high enough to compute or comprehend at that level. > > > > Unquestioned faith comes from either direct experience or a deep inner knowing. > > > > So if you desire to clear your own doubts, you have to increase your awareness and expand your personal experience. Pay attention. Listen. And relax into your body and out of your mind. > > > > Sat Nam, > > > > Guru Rattana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Sat Nam, >I read your recent post. The post was inspiring to me. However (doubter and questioner that I am), why would one relax " out of (their) mind " ? To experience through sensory awareness that which cannot be experienced in the mind. The mind needs to be used to pay attention to the whole gambit of awarenesses that are available to our sensory system. Usually one uses the mind only to think, question or to confuse ourselves. Imagine if we used this awesome instrument to experience even some of the 99.9 per cent of reality that we ignore, deny or supress. Blessings, Guru Rattana - cheyenne2020a Kundaliniyoga Sunday, November 25, 2007 4:04 PM Kundalini Yoga Re: God Kundaliniyoga , " Guru Rattana " <gururattan wrote: > > Sat nam, > > > > No one can clear another's doubts about God. Our existential doubts cannot be eliminated by beliefs or proof. Perhaps there is a mathematical formula for God, but an empirical approach cannot satisfy us because our mind cannot elevate high enough to compute or comprehend at that level. > > > > Unquestioned faith comes from either direct experience or a deep inner knowing. > > > > So if you desire to clear your own doubts, you have to increase your awareness and expand your personal experience. Pay attention. Listen. And relax into your body and out of your mind. > > > > Sat Nam, > > > > Guru Rattana > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 =) What a great thread! Blessings on all! God in a mathmatical definitition: 1 - 1 = 1 If you have something, you have a piece of god. Take away what you have, and what are you left with? Nothing. But in that representation... that classification of the void... you're identifying god. Which is what you started with... Does that make sense? It might be confusing, but to borrow from what Guru Rattana said, thoughts do serve to confuse us. If we can't understand something, we should let it be, and be ourselves, which brings us closer to our goals, always. And then there's the whole distance thing... how far away are we from what we want? Maybe what we want is right under our butts? I'm just a young student in this yoga so if this served as more of a rant or a spurt or something... I appologize. But it all seems to make sense and I hope it helps someone. Sat Nam, and again Blessings. Chad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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