Betin -- Response Overcoming Fear (very long)

[Guest guest]

Hi Betin,

 

Can relate to your issues with fear, in the past I had so much fear

from some of the same reasons as you. I still struggle with it, but it

is much better due to something a mentor told me about 1.5 years ago.

 

(Sometimes I think to myself, I have had so much fear over things, I

think I have died a million deaths already -- heck with the real

thing! LOL For me -- thinking about things and fearing them probably

is worse than the acutal experience itself, due to the great trickster

-- the mind.)

 

The mentor had been practicing Sri Nisergatta's information from the

book " I AM " , and I took that and practiced it also along with reading

" The Power of Now " by E. Tolle, and also reading " Transcending The

Levels of Consciousness " , by Dr. David Hawkins -- and really using

these as my focus. These three works all fit in very well together.

 

What they show is that we are the " Self " not the little ego self -- we

are not the mind nor pleasure nor pain -- that is a function of the

mind, we are the spirit of whatever you term it, God, The Power, etc.

when we unhook ourselves from the mind by becoming the observer of

it, we can be really free from a lot of fears. These three books will

give you such a complete overview of what exactly the mind and the ego is.

 

Also the realization that we go on when we leave the body, it may be

in a different form, but we still go on. When you are not identified

as you " self " being the body -- and see that you do have this other

part that you really are eternally -- it is not as scary. In order to

have this realization you usually need to develop your spiritual self

and be identified with that plane of life versus the material plane of

life and KY is a great tool for that -- you will have experiences that

science cannot yet prove, but you will know beyond a shadow of doubt

that there is life after. It becomes self-factual, as in my study

they teach that all knowledge is in only three catagories: fact,

theory or fantasy. At this point in the evolution in society things

like the afterlife cannot be measured with machinery so it has to

become self-factual by self-experience that you prove to yourself.

 

If you can learn to identify yourself as the " I AM " , you go around all

day long in a meditative state replying to yourself, I AM a part of

the I AM Consciousness, (I am not the body nor the mind) become the

observer of the mind and you will see how much the mind deceives the

real us, basically it is like it hypnotizes the real us. Also this is

in total agreement of the teacings of " A Course in Miracles " . I was

shocked so many times by the thoughts that came up when I observed

them instead of getting involved in them -- all of the sudden when

thoughts would start on their " train of causation " (once a thought is

in the subconscious the mind will then reason deductively to prove it

as TRUE!!!) I'd be able to see -- hey that is not true -- or that is

not happening now.

 

Really we begin to see that the mind is just an instrument -- and we

can begin to get free of some of the negative ways it works. For some

people E. Tolle says that -- some people's minds are more vicious than

others. I believe this to be true, as I see my mind is not my friend

but many times just wants to keep me miserable by autosuggesting

negative things to me over and over! Oh and especially when I am

starting to feel better -- how it will really keep trying to

autosuggest negative ideas/thoughts.

 

Another thing to consider which I am giving a lot of information --

but feelings are vibratory -- when you have a feeling -- what you are

experiencing is a vibration in the body and mind. Once that is

started (if you hook into the thoughts as being true) -- it will go on

a course until it peaks and then it will level down. I have seen this

with myself many times over and over and the only way not to have this

happen is to catch the thought before it takes over and focus on the

opposite in order to not hook into the thought (think of it like a

fish and a fisherman -- do not get hooked!!!). The only hard part

with this is that something bigger has to overcome something little --

even with energy -- so if you are not in a high energy to begin with

-- it is much easier for the lower vibrations to take over, since you

will not have the energy to overcome it. Don't know if this is clear

the way I am explaining it. This is why KY is helping me a lot with

the mild to mod. negativity, it is giving me the higher vibrational

rate to overcome the lower vibrational rate.

 

Dr. David Hawkins discusses this in his book in saying that there are

like two forms of energy -- Spiritual Power and Carnal Force -- only

the Spiritual Power can overcome the Carnal Force and for me KY is one

way to generate that Spiritual Power. Along with things I learned in

my study -- to always think, feel and act as positive as possible.

Follow the 12 laws of the soul at all times instead of their opposite:

Faith/Hope/Courage/Patience/Duty/Aspiration/Generosity/Kindness/Sympathy/Forgive\

ness/

Non-Interference/Love. They all are very outlined and will keep you

in a certain vibration vs. their opposites which in the study are

termed " Laws of the Mind " .

 

They also teach that once the mind has accepted a thought as a truth

it starts a train of causation in the mind/body -- since the thought

then goes into the subconscious where the spirit(executive portion)

resides and will carry out that thought in the mind, body and

environment, (this is why hypnosis works when you see people on the

stage as the operator acts as their conscious mind and the

participant's conscious is turned off and the directions are going

straight to their subconscious and it is carried out to a " T " . In

order to change that you need to change the thought. They teach by

focusing on the opposite -- such as faith. Emotions all are

polarities, there are the opposite poles to each of them. The only

problem I have had with that is that my mind will just start on

another issue in order to drag me down. In the past I would be

totally exhausted from the mind being like a merry-go-round, once I'd

overcome one thing, it would switch to another topic that was a sore

one for me in order to get me down, and this would go on for hours.

So for me, being the observer of the mind is very powerful, actually

if you get really into it you will be able to eventually control your

thoughts.

 

I still struggle with negativity as I have posted here recently, but

it is coming from the subconscious now.

 

I had an extreme, very hard " Dark Night of The Soul " things happen to

me as of 1996 during that year, I now realize it was the changes of

the planets that brought about an almost complete collapse of the

entire life I knew up until that point in time. I lost almost

everything I held near and dear to myself and there were many days and

nights that I didn't know if I could go on. I was in extreme agony

over it all. After a few years I felt better -- what I learned is

that " All I'll Ever Have is Me in My Life with My God " --

relationships are only for sharing. I saw how codependent I was. I

also saw that those that leave my life -- I can still love them --

love does not ever have to leave. They may leave in physical form

etc. -- but I will always love them. I can cherish all the memories

and no one can ever take that away from me. No one can stop me from

loving. The only thing is that I can pretty much be by myself and be

happy now. Happiness real, true happiness is what in 12 step recovery

-- terms as contentment -- it is not from the mind and you can learn

to be content in almost any situation. I do need others to love, but I

can always have my dog! In the study they say happiness does not

depend upon any person, place or thing. I used to say to myself, it

does not depend upon any particular person, place or thing -- this is

true!!! Even Dr. Hawkins talks about that when people evolve

spiritually they are happy beyond and this happiness does not come

from outer circumstances.

 

Good luck with your fears!!!

 

: ) Christine

[Guest guest]

Hi Christine,

Thanks for writing, I found your message very interesting but since it involves

a lot of new ideas for me I don't feel ready to comment on it yet. I understood

some references and ideas that were more familiar but the rest I am going to be

chewing on for some time! It was nice of you to take the time to write, I really

appreciate it. It's always good to see that there's people out there progressing

and overcoming the problems I am facing, it gives me a lot of hope and

encouragement to keep on practicing. I am going to check the books you

mentioned, by the way I read a book on mindfulness that was very good and in

that book there was a positive reference to " The Power of Now " that you

mentioned.

Thanks again and best wishes,

Betin