Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Sat Nam, During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong Kar-ah Sat-a Nam-ah Siri Wah ah Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little bit eerie and could sense the presence of entities around her. She didn't feel comfortable at all. I personally have not encountered such an experience before,has anyone had a similar experience before? Or does any one of you knid souls out there has an explanation to this? When we chant, are we not strengthening our aura and creating a positive vibrations and protective light around us? Love and Light! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all cast a circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail. Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey into the unknown. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 .....I have the same types of experiences.....I have also found them attached to my pets when balancing them energetically. I imagine being in a tube of white light and then I summon a tremendous amount of courage and send white light directly to the entity (with love), and then send it into the light. Its important not to be afraid as this only feeds them. Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ] On Behalf Of pickiekay Monday, 7 January 2008 9:59 a.m. Kundaliniyoga Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all cast a circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail. Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey into the unknown. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Hello I also feel the presence of entities while meditating, mostly when chanting, but not only do I feel them but I hear them make noises, like steps, or like trying to grasp something, like wanting to write something on my notepad. Is this normal? I'm not afraid of them, I have always thought that they are friendly, but I don't know what they are, energies or entities ? Thanks Neli Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 During my experiences, I have found that I connect with archetypes at the end of some kundalini yoga sets. Kundaliniyoga , " pickiekay " <pickiekay wrote: > > I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since > childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all > cast a > circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no > unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail. > Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey > into the unknown. Good luck. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Some people say fear experienced in the presence of an entity means the entity is malevolent. How best can we deal with this type of experience? Sometimes they brush past me even at work. One day I saw what i thought was a disembodied soul twice at work ( corner of the eye image flashing by) and ignored it. 5 minutes later I had an accident at work. Never ignore or dismiss what you percieve anywhere any time. Guys tell us how to deal with this. Marie Hansen <cynos7 wrote: ....I have the same types of experiences.....I have also found them attached to my pets when balancing them energetically. I imagine being in a tube of white light and then I summon a tremendous amount of courage and send white light directly to the entity (with love), and then send it into the light. Its important not to be afraid as this only feeds them. Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ] On Behalf Of pickiekay Monday, 7 January 2008 9:59 a.m. Kundaliniyoga Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all cast a circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail. Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey into the unknown. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 SEND IT TO THE LIGHT! PROTECT, PROTECT, PROTECT YOURSELF! Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ] On Behalf Of paul kambanga Wednesday, 9 January 2008 8:26 a.m. Kundaliniyoga RE: Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation Some people say fear experienced in the presence of an entity means the entity is malevolent. How best can we deal with this type of experience? Sometimes they brush past me even at work. One day I saw what i thought was a disembodied soul twice at work ( corner of the eye image flashing by) and ignored it. 5 minutes later I had an accident at work. Never ignore or dismiss what you percieve anywhere any time. Guys tell us how to deal with this. Marie Hansen <cynos7 <cynos7%40xtra.co.nz> > wrote: ....I have the same types of experiences.....I have also found them attached to my pets when balancing them energetically. I imagine being in a tube of white light and then I summon a tremendous amount of courage and send white light directly to the entity (with love), and then send it into the light. Its important not to be afraid as this only feeds them. Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40> [Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40> ] On Behalf Of pickiekay Monday, 7 January 2008 9:59 a.m. Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40> Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation I always sense entities even when not engaged in meditation,since childhood, toomany to mention here. When i meditate i first of all cast a circle of protection and do other protection rituals to make sure no unfriendly entities can invade my sacred space. It works without fail. Try this method for assured safety and comfort during your journey into the unknown. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Neli, Kindly teach me to do Laya Yoga or guide me in this regard.Where can I learn Laya Yoga, any website? Can Any Guru teach me? Regards, kishore. --- neli ufocontact <neli_nelis wrote: > Hello > > I also feel the presence of entities while > meditating, mostly when chanting, but not only do I > feel them but I hear them make noises, like steps, > or like trying to grasp something, like wanting to > write something on my notepad. Is this normal? I'm > not afraid of them, I have always thought that they > are friendly, but I don't know what they are, > energies or entities ? > > Thanks > Neli > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 The question should not be the attention to entities, whatever they may be, but to whom do these entries appear? There has to be a subject first before there is a recognizable object. The subject is that which denotes the sense of realness and provides the light of seeing to allow any entity to be seen. The subject is always of a high level prior to any experience. Whatever you see consider the seer and hold singly to That. The result will be that the seer is realized to be the ground of being, a field of consciousness in which subject and object vanish and all ideas of separation from an object vanish with it. The field, the individual unit of consciousness itself eventually impacting the universal and dissolving, like the water contents in a bottle floating in the ocean, lose the notion of separateness, when the cork is pulled from the top. Pieter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated But I'm still unable to answer my student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field and protect us, so why did she feel entities close by..? Sat Nam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 i'm just guessing, and was actually waiting curiously to hear the answer somebody else might give you, but isn't it possible that entities came near to her BECAUSE her auric field was strong. isn't a strong auric field also very bright? i know virtually nothing about the details of the context and am not by any means an expert but a novice, and i don't have any formal layayoga practice, but i do have a lot of experience of chakras and energy and kundalini/prana in my body and my own meditation practice. just joined recently and am glad i did. looks like an interesting group. cathie mybabylet <mybabylet wrote: Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated But I'm still unable to answer my student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field and protect us, so why did she feel entities close by..? Sat Nam Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Sat Nam Cynos: Just a thought: It would seem to me that it might be dangerous to burn charcoal and beans in view of the possible production of carbon monoxide especially, which is a deadly gas as you know, with all the windows closed and no ventilation. How long would this be done timewise and perhaps suggesting the person be out of the area while the burning is going on and then have a plan to quickly ventilate the room upon return. Heartfully Teresa ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Sat nam ......in some way she is attracting them...thoughts or feelings, and mostly lack of protection. They may be around her because they are draining her energy for their own use (particularly when she is doing yoga). What I can say is the more you put your attention on them the more they want to hang around. Clearing her space before doing yoga is also helpful. I don't know how to do that using KY chants because I am still fairly new so someone else may want to offer something on this one. Also different incenses and essential oils work wonders. Or alternatively close up the house and burn coffee beans on charcoal in every room and then open the windows - you will notice the difference. The entities will be gone and the air will look like it has been cleaned. Aura Soma airconditioner - either white or serapis bey is also extremely good and you will benefit personally from its use as well. om: Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ] On Behalf Of mybabylet Thursday, 17 January 2008 2:44 a.m. Kundaliniyoga Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated But I'm still unable to answer my student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field and protect us, so why did she feel entities close by..? Sat Nam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 .........yes! I made a note in my post that they may be around to drain her energy. She might be leaking energy to them or they are draining it from her. Another thought is that having pranic healing done would seal her energetically. There are a lot of reasons why they are there, and without seeing her or her space personally to make a more accurate diagnosis have offered a few suggestions. Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ] On Behalf Of Cathie Thursday, 17 January 2008 6:44 a.m. Kundaliniyoga Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation i'm just guessing, and was actually waiting curiously to hear the answer somebody else might give you, but isn't it possible that entities came near to her BECAUSE her auric field was strong. isn't a strong auric field also very bright? i know virtually nothing about the details of the context and am not by any means an expert but a novice, and i don't have any formal layayoga practice, but i do have a lot of experience of chakras and energy and kundalini/prana in my body and my own meditation practice. just joined recently and am glad i did. looks like an interesting group. cathie mybabylet <mybabylet <mybabylet%40> > wrote: Thank you for all your replies,much appreciated But I'm still unable to answer my student,as she asked me..chanting would help us strengthen our auric field and protect us, so why did she feel entities close by..? Sat Nam Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh There are entities around us always. Some are good some are bad. This is a fact. In your situation I would guess it was a good entity. Some reasons for this are- while meditating good entities come to gaurd you and add to your experiences. They are drawn to your aura and the truly powerful words you are speaking. Bad entities are scared of the bright light of an aura meditating and cannot stand to be around it, So it is very unlikely they were bad.Not impossible though.If you find yourself in this situation get yourself an iron kara. The sacred braclet is a sure-fire repelent of negative entities, but it must be iron. The discomfort your student was feeling is natural. It is always wierd to feel someone in the room and not be able to see them. Wear an iron kara and meditate with conviction you will be fine. I suspect your student is naturally more in tune with her Chakras. Singh - In Kundaliniyoga , " mybabylet " <mybabylet wrote: > > Sat Nam, > During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong Kar-ah Sat-a Nam-ah Siri Wah ah > Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little bit eerie and could sense the presence of entities > around her. She didn't feel comfortable at all. > > I personally have not encountered such an experience before,has anyone had a similar > experience before? Or does any one of you knid souls out there has an explanation to this? > When we chant, are we not strengthening our aura and creating a positive vibrations and > protective light around us? > > Love and Light! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I appreciate this reply, and dont' know why I also assumed the entities might be negative (though I've heard that version of things before too, that they are attracted to those who have bright auras to feed off of them). Still, it's important to remember that entities can be helping spirits, such as angels, or guardians/ancestors. Also, I just remembered, there was a show on the discovery channel I saw years ago, that says they were able to stimulate the feeling of " Presence " (ie. the feeling that an " entity " or person was standing nearby), simply by stimulating a certain lobe of the brain. So maybe the meditation is stimulating that part of the brain. The next question would be, that the researchers felt that stimulating that lobe of the brain caused the experience of presence. But maybe the stimulation cuases more precisely the Awareness of Presence> (i.e. awareness of entities that are there but are only sensed with that lobe of the brain)? so one way or another, maybe the entities are around her ALL the time, only she Senses them during meditation? just a thought jhundle2005 <jhundle2005 wrote: Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki Fateh There are entities around us always. Some are good some are bad. This is a fact. In your situation I would guess it was a good entity. Some reasons for this are- while meditating good entities come to gaurd you and add to your experiences. They are drawn to your aura and the truly powerful words you are speaking. Bad entities are scared of the bright light of an aura meditating and cannot stand to be around it, So it is very unlikely they were bad.Not impossible though.If you find yourself in this situation get yourself an iron kara. The sacred braclet is a sure-fire repelent of negative entities, but it must be iron. The discomfort your student was feeling is natural. It is always wierd to feel someone in the room and not be able to see them. Wear an iron kara and meditate with conviction you will be fine. I suspect your student is naturally more in tune with her Chakras. Singh - In Kundaliniyoga , " mybabylet " <mybabylet wrote: > > Sat Nam, > During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong Kar-ah Sat-a Nam-ah Siri Wah ah > Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little bit eerie and could sense the presence of entities > around her. She didn't feel comfortable at all. > > I personally have not encountered such an experience before,has anyone had a similar > experience before? Or does any one of you knid souls out there has an explanation to this? > When we chant, are we not strengthening our aura and creating a positive vibrations and > protective light around us? > > Love and Light! > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I just want to share something that happened to me on the 16th 2.30 morning. An individual spirit was trying to posess mt body as i was sleeping. In fact the spirit managed to posess my lower body and it was trying to fully posess my whole body. I managed to concerntrate my energy to my right hand and i was holding its neck. The spirit was forcing it self towards my face and body and i manage to confront it face to face. I warned the spirit to leave but it insist. I managed to chant some buddism sutras and it was a decent struggle before the spirit left. The next thing i know is i am awake and the posture of my hand is exactly like i was holding the neck of the spirit. This is actually the third time of myself confronting spirits. Is diffrent spirit.The next day i felt the yin energy on my right palm. Is making my palm to sweet and shiver. I am trying to force out the negative energies on my left palm and is getting better. I think these entities are normal in fact o have sevral close encounters with them. Just have faith, pure intentions and beliving in your mind as the strongest. Kundaliniyoga: goddessrebirth: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:53:21 -0800Re: Kundalini Yoga Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation I appreciate this reply, and dont' know why I also assumed the entities might be negative (though I've heard that version of things before too, that they are attracted to those who have bright auras to feed off of them). Still, it's important to remember that entities can be helping spirits, such as angels, or guardians/ancestors. Also, I just remembered, there was a show on the discovery channel I saw years ago, that says they were able to stimulate the feeling of " Presence " (ie. the feeling that an " entity " or person was standing nearby), simply by stimulating a certain lobe of the brain. So maybe the meditation is stimulating that part of the brain. The next question would be, that the researchers felt that stimulating that lobe of the brain caused the experience of presence. But maybe the stimulation cuases more precisely the Awareness of Presence> (i.e. awareness of entities that are there but are only sensed with that lobe of the brain)? so one way or another,maybe the entities are around her ALL the time, only she Senses them during meditation? just a thoughtjhundle2005 <jhundle2005 wrote: Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki FatehThere are entities around us always. Some are good some are bad. This is a fact. In your situation I would guess it was a good entity. Some reasons for this are- while meditating good entities come to gaurd you and add to your experiences. They are drawn to your aura and the truly powerful words you are speaking. Bad entities are scared of the bright light of an aura meditating and cannot stand to be around it, So it is very unlikely they were bad.Not impossible though.If you find yourself in this situation get yourself an iron kara. The sacred braclet is a sure-fire repelent of negative entities, but it must be iron. The discomfort your student was feeling is natural. It is always wierd to feel someone in the room and not be able to see them. Wear an iron kara and meditate with conviction you will be fine. I suspect your student is naturally more in tune with her Chakras.Singh- In Kundaliniyoga , " mybabylet " <mybabylet wrote:>> Sat Nam,> During a laya yoga meditation chanting Ek Ong Kar-ah Sat-a Nam-ah Siri Wah ah > Hay Guru,a student told me she felt a little bit eerie and could sense the presence of entities > around her. She didn't feel comfortable at all.> > I personally have not encountered such an experience before,has anyone had a similar > experience before? Or does any one of you knid souls out there has an explanation to this? > When we chant, are we not strengthening our aura and creating a positive vibrations and > protective light around us?> > Love and Light!>Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi there, when I did mine I burnt them for about 10 minutes and went outside for the fresh air. Believe me its powerful stuff and you get pretty much straight away that you need to leave the room. I also took out all the pets - cats, dogs and fish - its important to remember the goldfish as well. When I went back in I opened all the windows and gave the house a good airing. I was surprised that the smell doesn't hang around after a good breeze gets in. The result was amazing. The air looked so much cleaner and things in the house calmed right down straight away. I put a small round piece of charcoal in a brass container and let that get going first and then threw smashed up coffee beans on top - important not to grind. It burns like incense on charcoal. I'm not sure if it produces carbon monoxide. Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ] On Behalf Of Sendag Thursday, 17 January 2008 1:18 p.m. Kundaliniyoga Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation Sat Nam Cynos: Just a thought: It would seem to me that it might be dangerous to burn charcoal and beans in view of the possible production of carbon monoxide especially, which is a deadly gas as you know, with all the windows closed and no ventilation. How long would this be done timewise and perhaps suggesting the person be out of the area while the burning is going on and then have a plan to quickly ventilate the room upon return. Heartfully Teresa ************** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Sat Nam, Shunga, I know someone who had some hair raising experience with some " darkies " They went to the local occult shop and purchased some Rue it is an herb. She made three pouches form a real cheap dish rags she got from the dollar store. She put one at the entrance of her bedroom door and the others are on the walls around her bed. So far she has not had any problems with these " darkies " . Knock on wood. There is a book by GuruNam called Lifting the Veil Practical Kabbalah with Kundalini yoga. In chapter three is called Bring in the Light. There is all kinds of instructions for protecting yourself. I use Gnostic mantras they seem to work very well. Peace Love & All Light, Guru Sadhana Seva SWADJ- " MAY YOU FLOURISH AND THRIVE " PEACE PROFOUND Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Thank you Guru for the advice. My faith is strong. My intentions are pure and i am full of love. That shall be my greatest strength. kundaliniyoga sadhana72002 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:38:56 -0800 Kundalini Yoga RE:Feeling presence of entities during laya yoga meditation Sat Nam, Shunga, I know someone who had some hair raising experience with some " darkies " They went to the local occult shop and purchased some Rue it is an herb. She made three pouches form a real cheap dish rags she got from the dollar store. She put one at the entrance of her bedroom door and the others are on the walls around her bed. So far she has not had any problems with these " darkies " . Knock on wood. There is a book by GuruNam called Lifting the Veil Practical Kabbalah with Kundalini yoga. In chapter three is called Bring in the Light. There is all kinds of instructions for protecting yourself. I use Gnostic mantras they seem to work very well. Peace Love & All Light, Guru Sadhana Seva SWADJ- " MAY YOU FLOURISH AND THRIVE " PEACE PROFOUND Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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