Vegetarian Diet

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam, As a person who has been involved with nutrition for many years - I say do what your body is telling you. It seems you are being conscious about the organic and eating only chicken and turkey. I have a friend with a blood problem and she has to eat meat to be okay. It's a life or death matter; she eats only Buffalo. It is hard these days to get proper food especially if you cannot grow your own but there are many ways in the city to find it such as: organic gardens,CSA's or Farmer's Market's. I do not agree with Yogi B re: eggs. Eggs are misunderstood. They are a source of complete protein and contain 14% more lecithin than cholesterol. The choline and lecithin in the egg cause the HDL which breaks up the the cholesterol and cleans up the arteries. Eggs also contain sulfur which is important for tissue and cell regeneration. But watch where you get the eggs. Everything has an energy and

store bought inorganic is a negative to purchase. I have chickens and know what they eat. Re: Tofu - I can't eat too much of that because I am in menopause and the soy elevates my estrogen. Again, look at your body and do the best you can and research it as best you can. In light, Siri Kirin

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[Guest guest]

In reply to Avtar Kaur's post - I, too, would like to know how you yogi's would suggest dealing with someone like me - who cannot eat tofu at all - or soy of any kind except in very small, limited amounts. Whenever I eat only vegetarian and/or vegan, I have to eliminate all tofu, soy and starchy carbs or I bloat up and wind up weighing more than I do on my "normal" diet. I also do not feel physically healthy until I add back in eggs, dairy, cheese and some meat. I always by organic and pray over the food with all my heart. It's very hard to teach a yogic lifestyle, when you can't live a yogic lifestyle by eating vegetarian or vegan.

 

I would be interested in comments from those who have lived a yogic lifestyle and still eat some meat and dairy.

 

Guru Jiwan Kaur

 

"If you accept the enjoyment of nature, of its beauty and bounty, then you will never have a chance to be in the wrong place. Just accept that you are always in the right place, and the hand of God’s time and space will always be yours." ~Yogi Bhajan

[Guest guest]

I really appreciate all the replies which have given me lots to think

about. I personally feel if we listen to our bodies clearly enough we

will know what it requires. The problem is being clear enough. This

is something that comes around periodically for me which is why I

asked the question. I do all my shopping at Wholefoods and farmers

markets and eat organically.

 

 

As to the moral and ethical issues involved, many years ago I read

the comments of a great Sufi master from India known as Bhai Sahib to

his students. When asked about diet (he himself was vegetarian) He

said we can't eat our way to God. He said we have to kill no matter

what our diet is - it is a matter of degree. He said we would know

what to do at each stage. He taught that anything, even

vegetarianism, can become an obstacle if we become attached to it. He

said everything, but everything in our lives would have to go to

realize God. Even our attachments to our spiritual practices.

 

Anyone interested in reading about this amazing man should check out

www.goldensufi.org. These remarks are to be found in the book Daughter

of Fire by Irina Tweedie which is her account of her very emotionally

painful training with him in the sixties where he forced her to face

the darkness in herself. It is an amazing story and incredibly inspiring.

 

Love and blessings,

Avtar

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

Yogiji once told us at KWTC that when a woman eats eggs it is like getting forty bullets to her head. He was being mphatic that we exclude them from our diet.

 

He also had a saying re how bad they are for men, just not as bad!

 

I have found that egg substitutes work fine, without any untoward effects.

 

My daycare has four chickens and three ganders that lay eggs, which we give to my dog. They are probably the healiest eggs around—no growth hormones, and the birds free to roam.

 

Blessings,

Guruprem Kaur

[Guest guest]

This is why I always loved YogiJi. " Eating eggs is

like getting forty bullets to the head. " Way off the

scale if you take what he is saying literally. All the

women I know either eat eggs or have in the past and

they all still have their heads on their shoulders and

few have any health or any other type of problems.

Because I have practiced mostly with small groups in

Iowa, I have not had contact with many 3HO members

over the 35 years I have practiced his yoga. After

reading this site for a while now I wonder if those

things he said are taken as literal truth. I am

feeling a rather cult like atmosphere and I don't know

what to think.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

So true. Plants deserve love too!

 

A few things to consider are Caloric Restriction, eat less to reduce

your impact and have better health and spiritual connection.

 

And... fruit! Eating fruit doesn't kill the trees/plants.

 

One other thing to be grateful for is that fewer plants are killed in a

vegetarian/vegan diet, compared to diets that require conversion of

plant into meat/eggs/dairy.

 

Personally, I consistently feel the benefits of KY and meditation most

when on a living food (raw), all plant diet (vegan), especially

majorily fruits and veggies. My physical, mental, and emotional health

do the best on that diet also. I've wavered as I've learned and going

back to this diet has always been like an awakening. For me, it takes 2-

4 days of eating raw vegan to notice the benefits.

 

Sat Nam!

Jon

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , " yogahs " <kundalini_yoga

wrote:

>

> > But I was really looking for the simple philosophy which was summed

up

> > beautifully .. It's very simple.....we don't need to kill a living

> being to

> > satsify our

> > hunger........

> >

>

> I wonder what you think of killing plants then? They are living beings

> as well!

>

> Blessings,

>

> Awtar Singh

>

[Guest guest]

Everything Is alive. Guilt will kill you and your

spirit long before the " karma " for the living things

you injest will, be it Plants or animals.

 

Until you are able to live on prana alone, just gently

guide your will, to do what you can to spare the ROOTS

of life, only eat the fruit the plants and animals

give to us freely.

Mostly Just be thankful, one day you will be food too.

 

Sabrina

[Guest guest]

Serena:

 

Body types and blood type diets are great tools for questioning and

searching. But in the end it is one's experience that matters.

 

I have a blood type 0 negative and I don't need meat, I don't crave

meat. I don't like dogmas and so I will eat meat once every 15 years

or so just to not be so stubborn about it! But I don't like it, my

body gets acid... :-)

 

Given my experience with being a vegetarian since 1994, I am not

convinced that the explanation given by the author of the blood type

diet is universal for all 0's. I don't particularly like grains, but

some vegetables have lots of proteins and nuts have them too!

 

So I would not use that book to justify any diet. But if one's

experience is such that meat seems essential, that's from experience

and that makes sense to me.

 

Blessings,

Awtar Singh

[Guest guest]

Isn't it wonderful that we have so much food available and accessible that we

can choose what we eat?

Blessings,

Diana Bellucci, San Diego

" Make a great day! "

 

 

[Guest guest]

I totally understand what you mean about the transition to a vegetarian

diet. I had to return to eating meat after years of vegetarianism for

health reasons and consequently felt much better. However, I am about to

complete training in Pranic Healing and it is a requirement not to eat meat

- or at the very least not pork. Also my health is excellent now so it is

not really necessary to keep consuming meat.

 

 

 

To make the transition back I will start with letting go of eating beef in

the first week, then lamb and beef in the second, then beef, lamb and

chicken in the third week........and so on. But each time you take

something out fill it in with more tofu, or nuts etc so that you are

literally replacing the meat with something else.

 

 

 

When I was younger I used to be very extreme and would jump in and make a

big change, sometimes that was ok but a lot of the times I still made the

change but with stress attached to it. Now I am older I work out some steps

leading to the goal and literally bite one step off and chew slowly before

getting to the next step......that way I arrive at my goal satisfied and

without any resentment towards any sacrifices.

 

 

 

Best of luck with your transition!

 

 

 

Sat nam

 

Marie

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of yogahs

Monday, 7 January 2008 10:31 a.m.

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga Re: Vegetarian Diet

 

 

 

>

can anyone make suggestions of making this transition back to a

vegeterain lifesytle so as not to throw me into a binge eating

episode. E~

 

Dear E:

 

Perhaps it is not meat so much as proteins and quality proteins you

are craving for. There are different body types. There are also many

different approaches to body types. Dr. Abravanel's Body Type System

(http://bodytypes.com/faq.htm) explains that people whose main gland

is the thyroid specifies that they need to eat more proteins than the

American standards. I have always know that I needed more protein in

my diet than carbs so his discovery does not surprise me. I happen to

have a body type regulated by the thyroid gland according to his system.

 

This is not to negate Ayurveda or any other system. Just to offer a

place to start your search on your journey.

 

So I would suggest you try the different vegetables that have lots of

proteins (leafy greens do such as chards), nuts, beans... And see

what;s most satisfying to you. Your body knows what it needs.

 

Blessings,

Awtar Singh

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

It is interesting that the craving happened after a car accident.

 

 

 

You have probably suffered etheric shock from this. Once this happens you

are off centre. Etheric Rescue by Aura Soma will help you realign, and heel

the damage to your timeline (just a suggestion).....is there anything in KY

that deals with this as well? I'm quite new to KY so I don't have all the

books etc.

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of jewls

Saturday, 5 January 2008 1:15 p.m.

Kundaliniyoga

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: Vegetarian Diet

 

 

 

years ago i was a vegetarian and then i was in a car accident and my body

craved meats, mostly chicken. so i returned to eating meat to allow my body

to heal (on the advice of my somatic therapist). now, years later i have

tried and tried to cut down my meat consumption but i'm left feeling empty,

grouchy (to say it nicely) and binging on foods to feel full. as a catholic

i observe lent and w/ that just a few weeks around the corner, i would like

to abstain from meat. can anyone make suggestions of making this transition

back to a vegeterain lifesytle so as not to throw me into a binge eating

episode. E~

 

 

Shunga Tayaka <shunga77 <shunga77%40hotmail.com> >

kundaliniyoga <kundaliniyoga%40>

Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:39:30 PM

RE: Kundalini Yoga Re: Vegetarian Diet

 

Is the desire. A meal with meat will be more satisfying compare a meal with

pure veggie. We must control our desires in return to gain control of our

mind which will help us to concentrate.

 

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[Guest guest]

Is all in your mind and your mind is the strongest object / thing ever created

in this universe. Is all mind power. Maybe you can stop taking chicken and

change to fish and from fish change to egg from egg you change all your diet to

veggies, beans and fruits.

 

Kundaliniyoga

jewls104

Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:14:58 -0800

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: Vegetarian Diet

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

years ago i was a vegetarian and then i was in a car accident and my

body craved meats, mostly chicken. so i returned to eating meat to allow my

body to heal (on the advice of my somatic therapist). now, years later i have

tried and tried to cut down my meat consumption but i'm left feeling empty,

grouchy (to say it nicely) and binging on foods to feel full. as a catholic i

observe lent and w/ that just a few weeks around the corner, i would like to

abstain from meat. can anyone make suggestions of making this transition back

to a vegeterain lifesytle so as not to throw me into a binge eating episode.

E~

 

 

 

 

 

Shunga Tayaka <shunga77

 

kundaliniyoga

 

Thursday, January 3, 2008 10:39:30 PM

 

RE: Kundalini Yoga Re: Vegetarian Diet

 

 

 

Is the desire. A meal with meat will be more satisfying compare a meal with pure

veggie. We must control our desires in return to gain control of our mind which

will help us to concentrate.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sat nam,

 

We have had requests from our members to end the current thread on vegetarian

diet. Those who are interested in pursuing the topic may choose to continue the

discussion privately. Aslo you can search the archives, as this topic has been

discussed in detail previously. Also there are probably other that

are dedicated to this topic.

 

If you find your post on this topic rejected, don't take it personally. We

simply need to open space now for other threads. Thank you for your

cooperation.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Guru Rattana :+)