seperation, individuation, 2nd chakra balancing, alcohol abuse, addictions

[Guest guest]

Sat nam!

 

 

 

Dear Guru Rattan and group.

 

 

 

I write with much shame and guilt this morning.

 

 

 

Coming to terms with my alcohol addiction. I have read old posts from Joan

Richards (now Guru Gopal?) and my beginning to work on my 2nd chakra has

lead me to post today on this subject. I am hoping someone can connect with

me.

 

 

 

All I have posted before is true, how I feel and am developing with a 1st

and 3rd chakras. I am painfully aware of the abuse I have been doing to my

body, mind, and soul, and now understand why.

 

 

 

The book “eastern body, western mind” deals with chakra balancing. I am

learning that alcohol abuse is a 2nd chakra issue, filling a void.

 

 

 

I definitely feel a huge void in my 2nd chakra area and have begun exercises

to connect there based on KY sets and the books advice too. I have ordered

a manual by a senior KY instructor and former abuser of alcohol. I I have

also begun a detox program one week ago, by Joan Larson, PhD, “Seven Weeks

to sobriety.” It has a 75% success rate. I quit my alcohol use today, in

sadhana, like I have many times before, and still the urge at night is

immense. Today I have begun a 40 day sadhana on 2nd chakra balancing in an

attempt to assist this detox and new behaviors.

 

 

 

Every book, person, expert says to not do this alone (quit drinking). SO I

reach out to the group. Yogi Bhajan says to help yourself, keep it up and

you will be kept up. The duality of my actions is sickening to me. And I

know my ego is some piece of work. I have so much going for me now I

cannot continue to drink.

 

 

 

This 2nd chakra of mine seems upside down, and my lower abdomen feels numb,

has always felt this way and the alcohol was a means to fill it, literally.

 

 

 

 

AM I too smart for my own good? With this ego of mine. ?

 

 

 

I love this life of mine – have a lot to live for and the pull of the old

habits and intrigues seems so strong at times I ask God to just take me

home, and this makes me cry as I write this, there is so much beauty in this

world, I want to be the light so bad it hurts at times knowing what I have

been doing to myself, my fiance’, and my soul.

 

 

 

I have changed a lot this past year with KY and meditation, I no Longer have

a desire or feel the need to mesh with my fiancé’ and take a stronger stance

at my business development.(there are still undertows that pull at old

directions but much less then they used to)

 

 

 

Stopping drinking seems the final piece in the lower chakras. And I know

it will happen with the balancing of the 2nd chakra, detoxing, surrendering,

and hopefully some feedback from the group. I hope God has not given up on

me, I really want to be here, and feel myself, all over, and be of service.

(more tears)

 

 

 

Thanks for reading and sat nam,

 

 

 

Marty (sarabjot singh)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we

created them. " - Albert Einstein

 

_____

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of mkestin

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:25 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga the continuing process of seperation and

individuation

 

 

 

 

 

Sat Nam Group!

 

Sarabjot Singh in Charlotte,

 

Update on the process of maturation as a adult and conscious individual.

 

Its been a year and 2 months since beginning this process through meditation

and KY.

 

I officially have a root! And a 3rd chakra to propel me forwards and

complete tasks for my practice, etc.

 

I feel a bit more stable, to stand on my own and not be “needy” towards

anyone now (more often than not).

 

I have a BIG question:

 

My fiancé and I agree there is something amuck in the 2nd chakra; like a

void that wants to be filled (All those years of coupling and sex never

filled it – duh!)

 

I still have the intrigues relates to sex and merging but there is a

definite root now saying, “no, its ok… you are whole, its ok to just be

you..you do not really want that”

 

So - Are there any kriyas and meditations for this? I am trying the green

energy set today and the past 2 days I have done one ..on accessing your

intuition form the spirituality and sexuality book. Both seemed to resonate

with me when choosing this pat weekend.

 

My meditations include a 62 min or longer neutral mind meditation and also

a 11 min one (both from Guru Dev Singh) wher I have my hands 8-10 inches

apart, in front of my heart center, palms down, right hand above left, no

particular mantra, inhaling mouth, exhaling nose.

 

Foot note: throughout the past year my then girlfriend now fiancé has been

the impetus behind my process – She says its just God working through her

and I agree but want to send out an energetic acknowledgement to the group

who also have had a hand in it. She is a very sensitive creature and

basically flattened by me last year with all the lower chakra stuff working

itself out. So, thank you my dear Fiancé.’ Without you and the universe I

would still be with my head between my legs, never able to reach high, and

achieve my purpose and fulfill my destiny as Sarabjot singh – which seems to

be as a great bodyworker and educator to help people out of pain –

 

Any help with the 2nd chakra stuff is appreciated.

 

Sarabjot Singh

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam

 

Sarabjot Singh,

 

I am touched by your honesty and your obvious struggle. Your letter

brings tears to my eyes in its vulnerability.

 

I believe that those who would teach you and those who would help you

to heal are either all around you or will reveal themselves to you. I

think that at the moment where we feel the most powerless to hold our

frailty is the moment where we accept grace because it is at that

moment where we realize that we do not need to carry the burden of our

wounds.

 

I pray for you to have all the support you need at this moment, and

that your higher good will reveal itself to you so that you feel that

support and deep peace in your heart.

 

You are so loved.

 

Om Shanti,

 

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Dear Sarabjot Singh:

 

Good for you for reaching out!

 

A good friend of mine just moved on the the next plane today. He'd

been a alcoholic for 35 years of his life, then healed and was able

to drink never abusing it again, was always functional and always

dependable and accountable at work, even during his alcoholic phase.

I met him after he'd healed and he told me he'd asked God many times

to take him back and send him into oblivion. He'd lost any interest

in anything, and most of all in life. He did not care to come back.

He was done. The feeling I got though was that that feeling of being

done with life was already there before he started his alcoholic

phase. The alcoholism did not create that feeling for him. It was a

way to not deal with it. He would not commit suicide as that would

not send his soul into oblivion, so he just prayed to be anihilated.

The answer he received was the healing. Then he spent the rest of his

life helping others heal.

 

He told me that it is not hard to give up addiction, you just give it

to God and if you are letting him take it away he will. The hardest

is to change one's support group to one that is not supportive of

alcoholism, or addiction. Making new friends to match one's new

attitude.

 

But the biggest healing he was receiving at the end of his life was

that he started to enjoy life, he no longer wanted to be sent to

oblivion.

 

I have learned much from my dear friend, I have loved being around

him, his straightforwardness, his laughter, his committment to

improving others' lives, his passion for connecting others to the

gift of letting go of one's burdens... My friend has received more

spontaneous healings from God than anyone I know, more answers to his

prayers than anyone I know... life size answers...

 

So when I heard your plea to us, I thought of my friend and how he'd

changed his life around. I am sure where he is now he continues to

work from the beyond to help anyone with addictions, anyone who asks

for help. John is his name. Call up on him when you need support. He

can do much more where he is now than he was able to do on Earth.

 

As far as the emptiness you feel the need to fill up... we all try to

fill it. Whether we believe in God or not it is there. We try filling

it up... with friendships, with lovers, with money, with food, with

alcohol... but when we realize it is something to be accepted and

felt, something changes. I welcome that feeling when I become aware

it is knocking at my door... That emptiness is God calling us... it

feels like emptiness because it is nothing we know or recognize. It

is not so frightening after we start listening to it. There is

nothing wrong in your secong chakra from that perspective... only a

sensitivity to what is... so just listen to it, feel it... it is just

right...

 

Blessings,

Awtar Singh

Rochester, NY

[Guest guest]

Sat nam Marty.

 

 

 

There seems to be a lot of self loathing going on here. I think what you

are doing is great but finding some forgiveness and compassion for abusing

yourself seems to be in order, and then send some love to yourself on a

regular basis. As individuals we need love to grow that is from others but

really more importantly we need love from ourselves.

 

 

 

I understand where you are coming from due to my own issues in the past and

the way I got over them was to heal emotionally – ask for illumination for

why I was doing those things, allow myself compassion for my inner self,

then go within and forgive myself (and others). It took a long time but it

worked I have been clean for 15 years and there is no chance of ever going

back now.

 

 

 

Thoughts and emotions generate energy. If both of those are negative and

self directed then that energy settles inside, and like attracts like, the

more negativity that goes into yourself the more it attracts.

Understanding, compassion, forgiveness and love of self neutralises and

transforms that energy. This part is the part that you must do by yourself.

No one else can do it for you.

 

 

 

I wish you all the best.

 

 

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of mkestin

Monday, 14 January 2008 5:17 a.m.

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga seperation, individuation, 2nd chakra balancing,

alcohol abuse, addictions

 

 

 

Sat nam!

 

Dear Guru Rattan and group.

 

I write with much shame and guilt this morning.

 

Coming to terms with my alcohol addiction. I have read old posts from Joan

Richards (now Guru Gopal?) and my beginning to work on my 2nd chakra has

lead me to post today on this subject. I am hoping someone can connect with

me.

 

All I have posted before is true, how I feel and am developing with a 1st

and 3rd chakras. I am painfully aware of the abuse I have been doing to my

body, mind, and soul, and now understand why.

 

The book “eastern body, western mind” deals with chakra balancing. I am

learning that alcohol abuse is a 2nd chakra issue, filling a void.

 

I definitely feel a huge void in my 2nd chakra area and have begun exercises

to connect there based on KY sets and the books advice too. I have ordered

a manual by a senior KY instructor and former abuser of alcohol. I I have

also begun a detox program one week ago, by Joan Larson, PhD, “Seven Weeks

to sobriety.” It has a 75% success rate. I quit my alcohol use today, in

sadhana, like I have many times before, and still the urge at night is

immense. Today I have begun a 40 day sadhana on 2nd chakra balancing in an

attempt to assist this detox and new behaviors.

 

Every book, person, expert says to not do this alone (quit drinking). SO I

reach out to the group. Yogi Bhajan says to help yourself, keep it up and

you will be kept up. The duality of my actions is sickening to me. And I

know my ego is some piece of work. I have so much going for me now I

cannot continue to drink.

 

This 2nd chakra of mine seems upside down, and my lower abdomen feels numb,

has always felt this way and the alcohol was a means to fill it, literally.

 

AM I too smart for my own good? With this ego of mine. ?

 

I love this life of mine – have a lot to live for and the pull of the old

habits and intrigues seems so strong at times I ask God to just take me

home, and this makes me cry as I write this, there is so much beauty in this

world, I want to be the light so bad it hurts at times knowing what I have

been doing to myself, my fiance’, and my soul.

 

I have changed a lot this past year with KY and meditation, I no Longer have

a desire or feel the need to mesh with my fiancé’ and take a stronger stance

at my business development.(there are still undertows that pull at old

directions but much less then they used to)

 

Stopping drinking seems the final piece in the lower chakras. And I know

it will happen with the balancing of the 2nd chakra, detoxing, surrendering,

and hopefully some feedback from the group. I hope God has not given up on

me, I really want to be here, and feel myself, all over, and be of service.

(more tears)

 

Thanks for reading and sat nam,

 

Marty (sarabjot singh)

 

" We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we

created them. " - Albert Einstein

 

_____

 

Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40>

[Kundaliniyoga

<Kundaliniyoga%40> ]

On Behalf Of mkestin

<mkestin%40ensomabodyworks.com>

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:25 PM

Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40>

Kundalini Yoga the continuing process of seperation and

individuation

 

Sat Nam Group!

 

Sarabjot Singh in Charlotte,

 

Update on the process of maturation as a adult and conscious individual.

 

Its been a year and 2 months since beginning this process through meditation

and KY.

 

I officially have a root! And a 3rd chakra to propel me forwards and

complete tasks for my practice, etc.

 

I feel a bit more stable, to stand on my own and not be “needy” towards

anyone now (more often than not).

 

I have a BIG question:

 

My fiancé and I agree there is something amuck in the 2nd chakra; like a

void that wants to be filled (All those years of coupling and sex never

filled it – duh!)

 

I still have the intrigues relates to sex and merging but there is a

definite root now saying, “no, its ok… you are whole, its ok to just be

you..you do not really want that”

 

So - Are there any kriyas and meditations for this? I am trying the green

energy set today and the past 2 days I have done one ..on accessing your

intuition form the spirituality and sexuality book. Both seemed to resonate

with me when choosing this pat weekend.

 

My meditations include a 62 min or longer neutral mind meditation and also

a 11 min one (both from Guru Dev Singh) wher I have my hands 8-10 inches

apart, in front of my heart center, palms down, right hand above left, no

particular mantra, inhaling mouth, exhaling nose.

 

Foot note: throughout the past year my then girlfriend now fiancé has been

the impetus behind my process – She says its just God working through her

and I agree but want to send out an energetic acknowledgement to the group

who also have had a hand in it. She is a very sensitive creature and

basically flattened by me last year with all the lower chakra stuff working

itself out. So, thank you my dear Fiancé.’ Without you and the universe I

would still be with my head between my legs, never able to reach high, and

achieve my purpose and fulfill my destiny as Sarabjot singh – which seems to

be as a great bodyworker and educator to help people out of pain –

 

Any help with the 2nd chakra stuff is appreciated.

 

Sarabjot Singh

 

 

[Guest guest]

I too have umbalanced hips unbalanced 2nd chakra , cause of the way I walk

caused by Cerebral Palsy. Many addicitons, i never felt satiffied horny all the

time. Ky has sorted me out. Nabhi kriya for three months really helped me at

first. Then the effects diminished. I was upset the initial euphoria wore off. I

used to cry to this group asking when I would be relieved from pain of living,

check the archives i´m in there like a cry baby. Sure the world has done us

wrong but we can redeem our selves through our practice

First redeem yourself from the guilt. Kriya to conquer pain. sitting arms

staight out to sides like wings, don´t let them fall below shoulders right palm

up to sky left palm down to ground. inhale through mouth exhale through nose

11mins. Or mahan gyan mudra, naval purification set all arm kriyas, Brahm

meditation.... Opens heart and sets navel, frees you emotionally for 24 hrs. Do

these arm kriyas over any other meditation your doing and you´ll be able to keep

going. works for hangovers too.

Sat kriya balances all three lower chakras and I´ve noticed a real stability

taking places a sense of groundedness. As sat kriya clears out lower triangle

ive found you don´t get as much of a kick from the arm kriyas...i did these for

3 years. (Sat kriya 22mins day 120. Finally Sodarshan chakra kriya (700days and

counting its changed my life, improved my relationships with everyone, it sucked

in the beginning 120 days, it kicks your butt where you need to kicked) the

perfect chakra cleaner start with 5mins. for 40 days and increase 1min. every

two weeks. You´re going to have to pass alot of spiritual kidney stones that´s

why start slow but it´s part of the process, when this happens do an arm kriya

over it to keep you going. I passed one last night I was pissed off over an ex

boss, then in 30mins it left me. Your addictions will fall away. I have a huge

weed stash at my house that i haven´t even touched cause sat kriya just evened

me out..i don´t need to get high like

before..this stuff works.

Commit yourself to one practice for 1000 days and do minimum times 3mins.when

you get in a time crunch don´t miss a day. You get drunk don´t beat yourself up

for not being the perfect yogui. Just remember to do your practice every day. If

you do a meditation remember to set the navel center with stretch pose before

othrewise you not really intergrating any of the effects from your

practice.(That´s why i chose sat and sodarshan they really work the navel) You

will see changes.

Sat and sodarshan have made great changes. Sat kriya has given me a sense of

equanimity and sodarshan purged me of many demons, they are still there but

every 40 days they get smaller and smaller when i confront them. it gets easier

to release. My addictions are less and less the weekend came and gone without

going to the bar..something I couldn´t imagine before. I´m now doing a heart

meditation let see where this one takes me har, har, hari, wa hay guru.....Sat

Nam- Chris

 

 

Dear G

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sat Nam , I am sober for seven years. It has changed my life. A.A. is in my

opinion the only real way to stay sober. My father is sober 37 years and has

been in A.A. for as long. I have seen many fall who have left the program. Keep

up your sadhana, meditation and kiryas and try a meeting. You'd be surprised at

the similarities in the principles and beliefs of A.A. and kundalini yoga, the

yoga sutras and all yoga for that matter. With an attitude of gratitude. Sat Nam

Lily

 

mkestin wrote: Sat nam!

 

Dear Guru Rattan and group.

 

I write with much shame and guilt this morning.

 

Coming to terms with my alcohol addiction. I have read old posts from Joan

Richards (now Guru Gopal?) and my beginning to work on my 2nd chakra has

lead me to post today on this subject. I am hoping someone can connect with

me.

 

All I have posted before is true, how I feel and am developing with a 1st

and 3rd chakras. I am painfully aware of the abuse I have been doing to my

body, mind, and soul, and now understand why.

 

The book “eastern body, western mind” deals with chakra balancing. I am

learning that alcohol abuse is a 2nd chakra issue, filling a void.

 

I definitely feel a huge void in my 2nd chakra area and have begun exercises

to connect there based on KY sets and the books advice too. I have ordered

a manual by a senior KY instructor and former abuser of alcohol. I I have

also begun a detox program one week ago, by Joan Larson, PhD, “Seven Weeks

to sobriety.” It has a 75% success rate. I quit my alcohol use today, in

sadhana, like I have many times before, and still the urge at night is

immense. Today I have begun a 40 day sadhana on 2nd chakra balancing in an

attempt to assist this detox and new behaviors.

 

Every book, person, expert says to not do this alone (quit drinking). SO I

reach out to the group. Yogi Bhajan says to help yourself, keep it up and

you will be kept up. The duality of my actions is sickening to me. And I

know my ego is some piece of work. I have so much going for me now I

cannot continue to drink.

 

This 2nd chakra of mine seems upside down, and my lower abdomen feels numb,

has always felt this way and the alcohol was a means to fill it, literally.

 

AM I too smart for my own good? With this ego of mine. ?

 

I love this life of mine – have a lot to live for and the pull of the old

habits and intrigues seems so strong at times I ask God to just take me

home, and this makes me cry as I write this, there is so much beauty in this

world, I want to be the light so bad it hurts at times knowing what I have

been doing to myself, my fiance’, and my soul.

 

I have changed a lot this past year with KY and meditation, I no Longer have

a desire or feel the need to mesh with my fiancé’ and take a stronger stance

at my business development.(there are still undertows that pull at old

directions but much less then they used to)

 

Stopping drinking seems the final piece in the lower chakras. And I know

it will happen with the balancing of the 2nd chakra, detoxing, surrendering,

and hopefully some feedback from the group. I hope God has not given up on

me, I really want to be here, and feel myself, all over, and be of service.

(more tears)

 

Thanks for reading and sat nam,

 

Marty (sarabjot singh)

[Guest guest]

Dear Marty,

 

Sat Nam!

 

Your mind needs to shift channels.

 

In the emptiness lies the gift. Go into your inner space, which now you seem to

lable emptiness. Focus on it. Look, listen and feel. For the rest of your

life -- Look, Listen and Feel your inner space inside your head, heart and body.

A million times -- Look, Listen and Feel. That is the formula. It is not empty.

It is filled with the Infnitite, with love, with peace, with stillness, with

silence. Merge your listening, feeling and seeing with those experiences.

 

You can chant Ongs -- long and powerfuly for a few minutes. This opens the

third eye so you can be aware of the above experiences. Ong by the way connects

with the second chakra in long Ek Ong Kars.

 

Don't think. Thinking keeps you in the dual mind channel. Look, listen and

feel and move into the neutral channel of your mind.

 

Blessings,

 

Guru Rattana :+)

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sat nam.

 

Hello Sarabjot Singh:

 

1. No worries. God is You/with you, hence no chance to give up on you.

 

2. Alcoholism is a very peculiar addiction, thus very few alcoholics recover;

in fact the only hope for recovery, if there is one, is the 12 step

program through AA.

 

3. Recovery/healing occurs only at a certain level of consciousness that

very few are able to achieve, and one way/hope to achieve it is through

the 12 step; it doesn't mean that joining it will automatically propel you to

healing, No. You would have to do the work with integrity and pray for the

gift for healing, and the gift of faith. At that higher level of

consciousness,

the problem will resolve itself without input from you, since it is " The

Field "

or God that does it.

 

4. Self deprecation, public declarations of guilt and the like, will not help

or advance your quest; only immanation can possibly help your cause,

help you on your way to self realization/healing.

 

5. Moreover, by that way of speaking of yourself, the ugly feelings you

appear to have about yourself is in a moronic way perpetuating that state.

 

6. Know that YOU are perfect. You who live in your body are perfect. You

are pure love and your job as Sarabjot Singh is to get in touch with

yourSelf (big S)

 

7. To quit drinking, just stop drinking. To get healed join the 12 step

through AA and do the work, there's no other way. And do your KY

EVERYDAY.

 

Kind regards and good luck,

Glow

 

mkestin wrote:

Sat nam!

 

Dear Guru Rattan and group.

 

I write with much shame and guilt this morning.

 

Coming to terms with my alcohol addiction. I have read old posts from Joan

Richards (now Guru Gopal?) and my beginning to work on my 2nd chakra has

lead me to post today on this subject. I am hoping someone can connect with

me.

 

All I have posted before is true, how I feel and am developing with a 1st

and 3rd chakras. I am painfully aware of the abuse I have been doing to my

body, mind, and soul, and now understand why.

 

The book “eastern body, western mind” deals with chakra balancing. I am

learning that alcohol abuse is a 2nd chakra issue, filling a void.

 

I definitely feel a huge void in my 2nd chakra area and have begun exercises

to connect there based on KY sets and the books advice too. I have ordered

a manual by a senior KY instructor and former abuser of alcohol. I I have

also begun a detox program one week ago, by Joan Larson, PhD, “Seven Weeks

to sobriety.” It has a 75% success rate. I quit my alcohol use today, in

sadhana, like I have many times before, and still the urge at night is

immense. Today I have begun a 40 day sadhana on 2nd chakra balancing in an

attempt to assist this detox and new behaviors.

 

Every book, person, expert says to not do this alone (quit drinking). SO I

reach out to the group. Yogi Bhajan says to help yourself, keep it up and

you will be kept up. The duality of my actions is sickening to me. And I

know my ego is some piece of work. I have so much going for me now I

cannot continue to drink.

 

This 2nd chakra of mine seems upside down, and my lower abdomen feels numb,

has always felt this way and the alcohol was a means to fill it, literally.

 

AM I too smart for my own good? With this ego of mine. ?

 

I love this life of mine – have a lot to live for and the pull of the old

habits and intrigues seems so strong at times I ask God to just take me

home, and this makes me cry as I write this, there is so much beauty in this

world, I want to be the light so bad it hurts at times knowing what I have

been doing to myself, my fiance’, and my soul.

 

I have changed a lot this past year with KY and meditation, I no Longer have

a desire or feel the need to mesh with my fiancé’ and take a stronger stance

at my business development.(there are still undertows that pull at old

directions but much less then they used to)

 

Stopping drinking seems the final piece in the lower chakras. And I know

it will happen with the balancing of the 2nd chakra, detoxing, surrendering,

and hopefully some feedback from the group. I hope God has not given up on

me, I really want to be here, and feel myself, all over, and be of service.

(more tears)

 

Thanks for reading and sat nam,

 

Marty (sarabjot singh)

 

" We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we

created them. " - Albert Einstein

 

_____

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of mkestin

Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:25 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga the continuing process of seperation and

individuation

 

Sat Nam Group!

 

Sarabjot Singh in Charlotte,

 

Update on the process of maturation as a adult and conscious individual.

 

Its been a year and 2 months since beginning this process through meditation

and KY.

 

I officially have a root! And a 3rd chakra to propel me forwards and

complete tasks for my practice, etc.

 

I feel a bit more stable, to stand on my own and not be “needy” towards

anyone now (more often than not).

 

I have a BIG question:

 

My fiancé and I agree there is something amuck in the 2nd chakra; like a

void that wants to be filled (All those years of coupling and sex never

filled it – duh!)

 

I still have the intrigues relates to sex and merging but there is a

definite root now saying, “no, its ok… you are whole, its ok to just be

you..you do not really want that”

 

So - Are there any kriyas and meditations for this? I am trying the green

energy set today and the past 2 days I have done one ..on accessing your

intuition form the spirituality and sexuality book. Both seemed to resonate

with me when choosing this pat weekend.

 

My meditations include a 62 min or longer neutral mind meditation and also

a 11 min one (both from Guru Dev Singh) wher I have my hands 8-10 inches

apart, in front of my heart center, palms down, right hand above left, no

particular mantra, inhaling mouth, exhaling nose.

 

Foot note: throughout the past year my then girlfriend now fiancé has been

the impetus behind my process – She says its just God working through her

and I agree but want to send out an energetic acknowledgement to the group

who also have had a hand in it. She is a very sensitive creature and

basically flattened by me last year with all the lower chakra stuff working

itself out. So, thank you my dear Fiancé.’ Without you and the universe I

would still be with my head between my legs, never able to reach high, and

achieve my purpose and fulfill my destiny as Sarabjot singh – which seems to

be as a great bodyworker and educator to help people out of pain –

 

Any help with the 2nd chakra stuff is appreciated.

 

Sarabjot Singh

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Sarabjot Singh:

 

God never gives up on us. I don't believe that is possible. It is we

who perceive the loss of connection.

 

My own experience suggests that Alcoholics Anonymous and its 12 Steps

and your practice of meditation and yoga are the most powerful tools to

aid in recovery from alcoholism. One of the 12 Steps advises us to use

prayer and meditation to increase our conscious contact with God as we

understand God. I have been sober in AA longer than I have been

practicing kundalini yoga. My experience in both has been enhanced by

the other. Both are truly spiritual practices and both offer a deep

connection to your true divine and infinite self. From my point of

view, after some years of sobriety and some years embracing kundalini

yoga practice and the teachings which ring true in my heart, I feel

fortunate to have been born an alcoholic. I truly believe that my

alcoholism is a part of the contract my soul made before this birth and

that recovery and sharing recovery and yoga and meditation is part of

my destiny.

 

I applaud your reaching out for help. That takes courage as well as

shows your willingness to do what is required to become sober. I also

invite you to contact me outside the parameters of this group if you

wish. It is an honor to be able to share with you.

 

Sat Nam,

 

Joan Richards - Guru Gopal

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for the replies and support :-)

 

 

 

I will update every one later in the week when I have time for a proper

reply to the support and love sent out to me.

 

 

 

Again, thank you all.

 

 

 

And Guru Rattan has again hit it and me on the head. Her advice to " Look.

Listen,and feel " the inner space is something I struggle with doing and

KNOW this is where my training needs to focus more on NOW and later, and

tomorrow, a million times.

 

Sarobjot Singh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

" We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we

created them. " - Albert Einstein

 

_____

 

Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of Guru Rattana

Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:41 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Re: Kundalini Yoga Re: seperation, individuation, 2nd chakra

balancing, alcohol abuse, addictions

 

 

 

Dear Marty,

 

Sat Nam!

 

Your mind needs to shift channels.

 

In the emptiness lies the gift. Go into your inner space, which now you seem

to lable emptiness. Focus on it. Look, listen and feel. For the rest of your

life -- Look, Listen and Feel your inner space inside your head, heart and

body. A million times -- Look, Listen and Feel. That is the formula. It is

not empty. It is filled with the Infnitite, with love, with peace, with

stillness, with silence. Merge your listening, feeling and seeing with those

experiences.

 

You can chant Ongs -- long and powerfuly for a few minutes. This opens the

third eye so you can be aware of the above experiences. Ong by the way

connects with the second chakra in long Ek Ong Kars.

 

Don't think. Thinking keeps you in the dual mind channel. Look, listen and

feel and move into the neutral channel of your mind.

 

Blessings,

 

Guru Rattana :+)

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris,

 

I don't believe I'm familiar with Sodarshan chakra kriya. will you please

tell me where I might find it.

 

Thanks, sat nam,

Sarab Kaur

 

Original Message:

-----------------

chris charles ccharles79

Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:40:44 -0800 (PST)

Kundaliniyoga

Re: Kundalini Yoga seperation, individuation, 2nd chakra

balancing, alcohol abuse, addictions

 

 

I too have umbalanced hips unbalanced 2nd chakra , cause of the way I walk

caused by Cerebral Palsy. Many addicitons, i never felt satiffied horny all

the time. Ky has sorted me out. Nabhi kriya for three months really helped

me at first. Then the effects diminished. I was upset the initial euphoria

wore off. I used to cry to this group asking when I would be relieved from

pain of living, check the archives i´m in there like a cry baby. Sure the

world has done us wrong but we can redeem our selves through our practice

First redeem yourself from the guilt. Kriya to conquer pain. sitting arms

staight out to sides like wings, don´t let them fall below shoulders right

palm up to sky left palm down to ground. inhale through mouth exhale

through nose 11mins. Or mahan gyan mudra, naval purification set all arm

kriyas, Brahm meditation.... Opens heart and sets navel, frees you

emotionally for 24 hrs. Do these arm kriyas over any other meditation your

doing and you´ll be able to keep going. works for hangovers too.

Sat kriya balances all three lower chakras and I´ve noticed a real

stability taking places a sense of groundedness. As sat kriya clears out

lower triangle ive found you don´t get as much of a kick from the arm

kriyas...i did these for 3 years. (Sat kriya 22mins day 120. Finally

Sodarshan chakra kriya (700days and counting its changed my life, improved

my relationships with everyone, it sucked in the beginning 120 days, it

kicks your butt where you need to kicked) the perfect chakra cleaner start

with 5mins. for 40 days and increase 1min. every two weeks. You´re going to

have to pass alot of spiritual kidney stones that´s why start slow but it´s

part of the process, when this happens do an arm kriya over it to keep you

going. I passed one last night I was pissed off over an ex boss, then in

30mins it left me. Your addictions will fall away. I have a huge weed stash

at my house that i haven´t even touched cause sat kriya just evened me

out..i don´t need to get high like

before..this stuff works.

Commit yourself to one practice for 1000 days and do minimum times

3mins.when you get in a time crunch don´t miss a day. You get drunk don´t

beat yourself up for not being the perfect yogui. Just remember to do your

practice every day. If you do a meditation remember to set the navel center

with stretch pose before othrewise you not really intergrating any of the

effects from your practice.(That´s why i chose sat and sodarshan they

really work the navel) You will see changes.

Sat and sodarshan have made great changes. Sat kriya has given me a sense

of equanimity and sodarshan purged me of many demons, they are still there

but every 40 days they get smaller and smaller when i confront them. it

gets easier to release. My addictions are less and less the weekend came

and gone without going to the bar..something I couldn´t imagine before. I´m

now doing a heart meditation let see where this one takes me har, har,

hari, wa hay guru.....Sat Nam- Chris

 

 

Dear G

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sarabjot Singh,

 

I had been a drinker for 10 years myself. Then I had an epileptic

seizure due to water-electrolyte imbalance in my body.

That´s 5 years ago now. During that time I never had the urge to drink

again.

Why? In the hospital one of the hospital nurses told me, that I had to

decide to quit drinking forever. Otherwise, if I said to myself to

stay " dry " for, maybe 5 years, and then think: " Okay, now I can afford

a drink " will send me back to where I am now, within less than 5

months. Surely. But those simple words turned all things around for

me. Because: If you make the decision to stop drinking now FOREVER,

TIME WILL BE ON YOUR SIDE! I mean, I realized, if I made the decision

for ever, I don´t have to go against time! Time is your friend, not

your enemy!

Honesty helped me on my way. And gratitude. Yeah, I am grateful to be

alive! And I know, that there was " someone " who took care of me, not

only in the moment the epileptic seizure happened. Forgiveness, too.

Yes, I have done a lot of very cruel things to myself during the

drinking period, but I was the victim who suffered most of those evil

deeds too. Imagination: I imagined my best moments in my life to come

and saw myself celebrating them without drinking. And my most sadest

moments I imagined also without drinking.

During the first 5 months I swam a lot, alltogether over 150

kilometres. And during swimming I realized, that my body was craving

for: healthy food!

Only a few months later I dared to look at al those liquors offered in

a shopping mall. Guess, what happened: My stomach ached. And I was

grateful for that ache, because I realized,that there is such a thing

as communication with your body. Today I know, that moments of that

kind have brought me to yoga.

Dear Sarabjot Singh, I can´t give you any advice concerning your yoga

practice. But I hope, that my words can help you on your way forward.

Thank you for your courage to ask for help, keep beeing courageous and

welcome your new life....

 

cruchot

 

 

>

[Guest guest]

I am a newbie to this (kundalini yoga); just joined this group last

night... So my reply is based on my recovery. I have been sober over

6 years and my life has never been better! Having now a clear head

and a clear heart,I am searching for growth spiritually. (to fill

that hole you spoke of) I started attending Lakota Sweat Lodges 2

years ago and am beginning chanting and meditation with some Tibetan

monks. I am also intrigued with yoga and the journey within that it

offers... The people who replied with the message of Alcoholics

Anonymous are correct. This was the answer for me and countless

others. It literally saved my life! Which is why I'm replying to

you. I quit drinking on my own and suffered an alcohol withdrawal

seizure. Almost died. Do you drink every day? If so, I highly

suggest you to contact a detox center near you and let them help you

detox medically. Alcohol withdrawal can be deadly. Try to remember

you are not alone - there are others who can and will relate to you.

Just get yourself to an A.A. meeting (after you detox) and you will

see what I mean. It really is a beautiful world. Good luck.

peace

t

 

Kundaliniyoga , <mkestin wrote:

>

> Sat nam!

>

>

>

> Dear Guru Rattan and group.

>

>

>

> I write with much shame and guilt this morning.

>

>

>

> Coming to terms with my alcohol addiction. I have read old posts

from Joan

> Richards (now Guru Gopal?) and my beginning to work on my 2nd chakra has

> lead me to post today on this subject. I am hoping someone can

connect with

> me.

>

>

>

> All I have posted before is true, how I feel and am developing with

a 1st

> and 3rd chakras. I am painfully aware of the abuse I have been

doing to my

> body, mind, and soul, and now understand why.

>

>

>

> The book " eastern body, western mind " deals with chakra balancing. I am

> learning that alcohol abuse is a 2nd chakra issue, filling a void.

>

>

>

> I definitely feel a huge void in my 2nd chakra area and have begun

exercises

> to connect there based on KY sets and the books advice too. I have

ordered

> a manual by a senior KY instructor and former abuser of alcohol. I

I have

> also begun a detox program one week ago, by Joan Larson, PhD,

" Seven Weeks

> to sobriety. " It has a 75% success rate. I quit my alcohol use

today, in

> sadhana, like I have many times before, and still the urge at night is

> immense. Today I have begun a 40 day sadhana on 2nd chakra

balancing in an

> attempt to assist this detox and new behaviors.

>

>

>

> Every book, person, expert says to not do this alone (quit

drinking). SO I

> reach out to the group. Yogi Bhajan says to help yourself, keep it

up and

> you will be kept up. The duality of my actions is sickening to me.

And I

> know my ego is some piece of work. I have so much going for me now I

> cannot continue to drink.

>

>

>

> This 2nd chakra of mine seems upside down, and my lower abdomen

feels numb,

> has always felt this way and the alcohol was a means to fill it,

literally.

>

>

>

>

> AM I too smart for my own good? With this ego of mine. ?

>

>

>

> I love this life of mine – have a lot to live for and the pull of

the old

> habits and intrigues seems so strong at times I ask God to just take me

> home, and this makes me cry as I write this, there is so much beauty

in this

> world, I want to be the light so bad it hurts at times knowing what

I have

> been doing to myself, my fiance', and my soul.

>

>

>

> I have changed a lot this past year with KY and meditation, I no

Longer have

> a desire or feel the need to mesh with my fiancé' and take a

stronger stance

> at my business development.(there are still undertows that pull at old

> directions but much less then they used to)

>

>

>

> Stopping drinking seems the final piece in the lower chakras. And

I know

> it will happen with the balancing of the 2nd chakra, detoxing,

surrendering,

> and hopefully some feedback from the group. I hope God has not

given up on

> me, I really want to be here, and feel myself, all over, and be of

service.

> (more tears)

>

>

>

> Thanks for reading and sat nam,

>

>

>

> Marty (sarabjot singh)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

" We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used

when we

> created them. " - Albert Einstein

>

> _____

>

> Kundaliniyoga

[Kundaliniyoga ]

> On Behalf Of mkestin

> Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:25 PM

> Kundaliniyoga

> Kundalini Yoga the continuing process of seperation and

> individuation

>

>

>

>

>

> Sat Nam Group!

>

> Sarabjot Singh in Charlotte,

>

> Update on the process of maturation as a adult and conscious

individual.

>

> Its been a year and 2 months since beginning this process through

meditation

> and KY.

>

> I officially have a root! And a 3rd chakra to propel me forwards and

> complete tasks for my practice, etc.

>

> I feel a bit more stable, to stand on my own and not be " needy " towards

> anyone now (more often than not).

>

> I have a BIG question:

>

> My fiancé and I agree there is something amuck in the 2nd chakra; like a

> void that wants to be filled (All those years of coupling and sex never

> filled it – duh!)

>

> I still have the intrigues relates to sex and merging but there is a

> definite root now saying, " no, its ok… you are whole, its ok to just be

> you..you do not really want that "

>

> So - Are there any kriyas and meditations for this? I am trying the

green

> energy set today and the past 2 days I have done one ..on accessing your

> intuition form the spirituality and sexuality book. Both seemed to

resonate

> with me when choosing this pat weekend.

>

> My meditations include a 62 min or longer neutral mind meditation

and also

> a 11 min one (both from Guru Dev Singh) wher I have my hands 8-10 inches

> apart, in front of my heart center, palms down, right hand above

left, no

> particular mantra, inhaling mouth, exhaling nose.

>

> Foot note: throughout the past year my then girlfriend now fiancé

has been

> the impetus behind my process – She says its just God working

through her

> and I agree but want to send out an energetic acknowledgement to the

group

> who also have had a hand in it. She is a very sensitive creature and

> basically flattened by me last year with all the lower chakra stuff

working

> itself out. So, thank you my dear Fiancé.' Without you and the

universe I

> would still be with my head between my legs, never able to reach

high, and

> achieve my purpose and fulfill my destiny as Sarabjot singh – which

seems to

> be as a great bodyworker and educator to help people out of pain –

>

> Any help with the 2nd chakra stuff is appreciated.

>

> Sarabjot Singh

>

>