Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 This is beautiful...thank you.... and I was just in NoHo a few days ago..so it made me smile. Reba dkellylyon <dkellylyon Kundaliniyoga Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:52:28 PM Kundalini Yoga Re: obsessive thoughts, addictions, individuation Sat Nam Marty, I have been meaning to write to you for some time. I have been in the AA program for many years - so I am definitely biased in my response. When you said that you had trouble with AA because the program regards people as imperfect or defective... .(I forget your exact words), I wanted to reply. I've come to understand alcoholism as a three-fold disease: physical, emotional and spiritual. I agree that God creates our souls with perfect light and love. I'm not sure when my personal experiences altered that perception - but I do know that I was a very cynical and negative person when I arrived in AA. The message I recall hearing most frequently was that " they would love me until I learned to love myself. " I wasn't even absolutely sure that I was a " true alcoholic " - but once I officially " stopped " - I was confronted with the reality of my condition - obsession. It's often repeated in the rooms that it's quite easy to stop drinking - it's staying stopped that seems to be the problem. I was first introduced to kundalini yoga in 1973. It was an amazing experience. The problem was that I was in the midst of my alcoholism - and completely lacked the discipline to follow through with it.(or anything else for that matter.) When I finally did get sober in 1980 - I began taking kundalini yoga classes in Northampton, MA. I am still basically an undisciplined person. Remaining sober and attempting to work the l2 steps has allowed me to progress along a spiritual path. It's only in the last three years that I successfully adhered to a daily sadhana. I apologize for rambling. I simply want to share my experience with you and convey how AA actually enabled me to participate fully in Kundalini yoga. If you never return to drinking, it will be a moot point. On the other hand, if you do encounter difficulties, I hope you can keep an open mind so that you may find additional support. As always, I am looking forward to Gururattana' s monthly newsletter - this month's subject is so near and dear to me. She has said in previous newsletters that our emotions allow us to communicate with our soul. I have been so tormented at times by my emotions that it was difficult to imagine that there was a place of perfect peace anywhere - let alone within me. I am grateful to report, that I, too have discovered the neutral zone and have experienced moments of abiding peace. It is nothing less than a miracle. I thank God for allowing me to live with dignity, health and joy. I will be forever indebted to the host of teachers in my life - from the street drunks at meetings who though they never achieved sobriety, greeted me with kindness and love - to the very evolved souls who have assisted me in putting my past to rest and truly living in the present moment. May God continue to bless you and guide you on your journey. Sat Nam. Abinashi ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Thank you for your message. I am totally with you along the lines of the disease being 3 fold. I have grown tremendously spiritually in A.A. I believe we are all souls sharing our experiences, strengths and hopes. Every story is an insight to our own lives. I also believe that Kundalini yoga, the yoga sutras and A.A. all follow the same principles. " An attitude of Gratitude " etc.When I am at summer solstice I an often awe struck at the similarities in courses offered to the topics at A.A. meetings. I love A.A and my yoga. With these two practices I feel I have a strong spiritual connection. Sat Nam Lily dkellylyon <dkellylyon wrote: Sat Nam Marty, I have been meaning to write to you for some time. I have been in the AA program for many years - so I am definitely biased in my response. When you said that you had trouble with AA because the program regards people as imperfect or defective....(I forget your exact words), I wanted to reply. I've come to understand alcoholism as a three-fold disease: physical, emotional and spiritual. I agree that God creates our souls with perfect light and love. I'm not sure when my personal experiences altered that perception - but I do know that I was a very cynical and negative person when I arrived in AA. The message I recall hearing most frequently was that " they would love me until I learned to love myself. " I wasn't even absolutely sure that I was a " true alcoholic " - but once I officially " stopped " - I was confronted with the reality of my condition - obsession. It's often repeated in the rooms that it's quite easy to stop drinking - it's staying stopped that seems to be the problem. I was first introduced to kundalini yoga in 1973. It was an amazing experience. The problem was that I was in the midst of my alcoholism - and completely lacked the discipline to follow through with it.(or anything else for that matter.) When I finally did get sober in 1980 - I began taking kundalini yoga classes in Northampton, MA. I am still basically an undisciplined person. Remaining sober and attempting to work the l2 steps has allowed me to progress along a spiritual path. It's only in the last three years that I successfully adhered to a daily sadhana. I apologize for rambling. I simply want to share my experience with you and convey how AA actually enabled me to participate fully in Kundalini yoga. If you never return to drinking, it will be a moot point. On the other hand, if you do encounter difficulties, I hope you can keep an open mind so that you may find additional support. As always, I am looking forward to Gururattana's monthly newsletter - this month's subject is so near and dear to me. She has said in previous newsletters that our emotions allow us to communicate with our soul. I have been so tormented at times by my emotions that it was difficult to imagine that there was a place of perfect peace anywhere - let alone within me. I am grateful to report, that I, too have discovered the neutral zone and have experienced moments of abiding peace. It is nothing less than a miracle. I thank God for allowing me to live with dignity, health and joy. I will be forever indebted to the host of teachers in my life - from the street drunks at meetings who though they never achieved sobriety, greeted me with kindness and love - to the very evolved souls who have assisted me in putting my past to rest and truly living in the present moment. May God continue to bless you and guide you on your journey. Sat Nam. Abinashi Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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