opening the deep energy body

[Guest guest]

I have been at this for about ten years and i find I have a pretty

good grasp of my energy i can manipulate it fairly well as long as its

on the outter layers of my body but i find one thing very frusterating

that the deeper i go the harder it is to move or effect energy,ther

resistence to even penetrating the core root of my body is for the

most part impossiable the best i can do is to simply concentrate on a

plexus/marma of my body aggresivly for maybe several hours and

eventually i might get a sudden flush of energy into my core

nadi's.several years ago randomly a dense bead of energy moved up my

left side cleansing my core nadi but i'v been working on my right

side for at least 4 years without much success I have imployed

numerous forms of pranayama such as nadi sodhana

as well as various tactile energy excercises and haven't come up with

much success

 

Is there someone here who has cleansed their energy system theroughly

and can send dense deep currents of energy threw thier core system?

if there is i would like some help with this is there some secret I'v

missed out on or some technical information that can help?

[Guest guest]

Dear Ben,

 

This is very important. Thanks for asking.

 

You have tried the aggressive techniques. However, this approach is only half

of the formula. And do be aware that disciplined training gets distorted into

manipulation and control.

 

We do need to need to cultivate discipline and actually perform the techniques

to begin and continue the awakening process. But there is more to the awakening

process than just rigorous practice.

 

It seems like you might not have 'tried' the other half of the formula --

surrender, trust, let go, relax techniques. This could be the secret that you

have missed. How about accepting and loving your deep core energy which is your

soul?

 

You can get deeper by engaging your emotional body. Your mind is used for

attention and focus, but not for control. Basically control shuts off access to

deeper levels of our being. They simply are not available through manipulation

of energy. We have to discover them through attentive, deep and loving

attention.

 

Sooner or later we all find out that discipline and techniques are necessary to

get to a certain point, to continue the conscious activation process and to

maintain our state of well-being.

 

But there is something else going on and we are not in charge of that mystery of

our soul and the universe. Through attention, awareness, detachment and love we

can get to know it. IT is patient. Are we? Kindness and patience are also

part of the formula.

 

Blessings,

 

Guru Rattana :+)

 

 

[Guest guest]

thank you for replying.interesting

 

I have tried passive methods like void meditation and zazen and have

found that energy does initialy circuilate in deeper levels but at

some point fairly quickly i get to where i feel like i'm just a stone

that sunk into the bottom of the ocean,hard dense and unmoving

 

but yeah its seems all my excercises can only manipulate the outter

layers of my body the ordinary meridians and not the deeper conduits.

 

Kundaliniyoga , " Guru Rattana " <gururattan

wrote:

>

> Dear Ben,

>

> This is very important. Thanks for asking.

>

> You have tried the aggressive techniques. However, this approach is

only half of the formula. And do be aware that disciplined training

gets distorted into manipulation and control.

>

> We do need to need to cultivate discipline and actually perform the

techniques to begin and continue the awakening process. But there is

more to the awakening process than just rigorous practice.

>

> It seems like you might not have 'tried' the other half of the

formula -- surrender, trust, let go, relax techniques. This could be

the secret that you have missed. How about accepting and loving your

deep core energy which is your soul?

>

> You can get deeper by engaging your emotional body. Your mind is

used for attention and focus, but not for control. Basically control

shuts off access to deeper levels of our being. They simply are not

available through manipulation of energy. We have to discover them

through attentive, deep and loving attention.

>

> Sooner or later we all find out that discipline and techniques are

necessary to get to a certain point, to continue the conscious

activation process and to maintain our state of well-being.

>

> But there is something else going on and we are not in charge of

that mystery of our soul and the universe. Through attention,

awareness, detachment and love we can get to know it. IT is patient.

Are we? Kindness and patience are also part of the formula.

>

> Blessings,

>

> Guru Rattana :+)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello, All!

 

Hi, Ben and Guru Rattana!

 

Guru Rattana, I thought you might be interested to know that at the

same moment you were writing your reply to Ben, my own inner guru,

" Suramuni " , was instructing me to write the following to a friend who

is experiencing discomfort due to rising Kundalini energy:

 

 

*****************************************

 

>>Kundalini energy is connected to the All sort of the way an FM radio

is connected both to the power grid and to the FM radio stations that

are broadcasting. What most people don't understand about radios is

that the circuits are ALWAYS tuned to pick up signals from the radio

station even when the radio is turned off... and if you had

extra-sensitive hearing, you could still hear the station's broadcast

being received by your radio. All that changes when you turn on the

power is that the radio now has enough energy to cause the speakers to

move, and the sound waves they generate can be received by our crude

sense of hearing.

 

>>What you did when you started practicing yoga and clearing your

chakras was akin to turning on the Kundalini radio. The problems you

are currently experiencing are sort of like the static that comes in

when the radio isn't perfectly tuned to the transmitting station...

so to ease the transition, you need to start rotating the tuning dial.

 

>>Kundalini is directly connected to the All -- and staying with the

radio analogy, just as your home radio could transmit to others on the

same wavelength if it had as much power as the transmitter station, so

too does your personal energy transmit the truth of yourself to the

energy matrix of the All -- which includes you, me, Suramuni, every

living being on earth, every bit of the life-force present in both the

Manifest (real) and Unmanifest (spiritual) universe. We are all

connected. We are all the ALL.

 

>>So, in order to tune yourself to the All, you need to start

strengthening your connections to others. Jesus, (the greatest avatar

ever born, and who truly merits the name The Son of God), had it

exactly right: love your neighbor, and your neighbor is every person

and living thing.

 

>>So... To better tune your kundalini energy to the all, focus with

all your being on loving EVERY person you know, every person you see,

every person about whom you hear. Focus especially on loving those

whom you find extremely difficult to love -- because they, too, are

connected to the All, and your loving vibration towards them will do

far more to tune your kundalini than any number of hours spent in yoga

or meditation. Focus on helping those whom you can help, focus on

using your excess kundalini energy for the good of others, and focus

on becoming the best, kindest, most loving person you can possibly

be... and then focus on becoming even kinder and gentler and more

loving than that.

 

>>I'm not implying that you aren't already a wonderful, kind, and

gentle person. I know that you are.

 

>>But as kind and gentle and loving as you already are, you will need

to grow more, because the kundalini will otherwise continue to get

stuck in various chakras, and it will continue to cause problems.

Cleaning the chakras is more than a simple visual exercise -- they are

essential organs in your spiritual body, and in order to function

properly they need to become perfectly tuned to the All. So, instead

of trying to force the energy through meditation and visualization,

take the more direct but less obvious path of letting the energy flow

through loving thoughts and action. It's frankly faster and easier by

far than the intellectual exercises so often recommended for clearing

chakras.

 

*****************************************

 

Guru Rattana, I was quite impressed by the strong " connection to the

All " you just demonstrated by posting the same concept to Ben at the

same time.

 

Thank you very much for moderating this group. I feel privileged to

be a member of it.

 

Love and Light and Blessings to all of us!

 

Claudia

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , " Ben Dover " <setiamon wrote:

>

> thank you for replying.interesting

>

> I have tried passive methods like void meditation and zazen and have

> found that energy does initialy circuilate in deeper levels but at

> some point fairly quickly i get to where i feel like i'm just a stone

> that sunk into the bottom of the ocean,hard dense and unmoving

>

> but yeah its seems all my excercises can only manipulate the outter

> layers of my body the ordinary meridians and not the deeper conduits.

>

> Kundaliniyoga , " Guru Rattana " <gururattan@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ben,

> >

> > This is very important. Thanks for asking.

> >

> > You have tried the aggressive techniques. However, this approach is

> only half of the formula. And do be aware that disciplined training

> gets distorted into manipulation and control.

> >

> > We do need to need to cultivate discipline and actually perform the

> techniques to begin and continue the awakening process. But there is

> more to the awakening process than just rigorous practice.

> >

> > It seems like you might not have 'tried' the other half of the

> formula -- surrender, trust, let go, relax techniques. This could be

> the secret that you have missed. How about accepting and loving your

> deep core energy which is your soul?

> >

> > You can get deeper by engaging your emotional body. Your mind is

> used for attention and focus, but not for control. Basically control

> shuts off access to deeper levels of our being. They simply are not

> available through manipulation of energy. We have to discover them

> through attentive, deep and loving attention.

> >

> > Sooner or later we all find out that discipline and techniques are

> necessary to get to a certain point, to continue the conscious

> activation process and to maintain our state of well-being.

> >

> > But there is something else going on and we are not in charge of

> that mystery of our soul and the universe. Through attention,

> awareness, detachment and love we can get to know it. IT is patient.

> Are we? Kindness and patience are also part of the formula.

> >

> > Blessings,

> >

> > Guru Rattana :+)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ben,

 

Start the allowing with the energies that you can feel in your body. If you

feel like rock, then enjoy stability. Even that has aliveness if you pay

attention.

 

Keep in touch about your results.

 

Blessings,

 

Guru Rattana :+)

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Claudia,

 

Yes, that is most interesting. I guess when the universe speaks, eveyone one

who listens hears. So secrets. Just the ability to listen. And then we each

communicate in our own special way.

 

Concerning your beautiful message, yes we do have to activate our soul energy by

feeling and expressing love through our being.

 

Thank you for your appreciation for this list.

 

Blessings,

 

Guru Rattana :+)