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Is there anyone who can recommend what to do about dealing with shame. They

associate a traumatic event with that but cannot remember if there was one only

being put down when I was young. Are there kriyas that have been used? Am

presently going to a counselor but not sure if that will work. Any imput will

help.

Thank you

Ellen

 

 

 

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Hello Ellen

I have been thinking about your post for several days now. I suggest

two things: Continue to see a counselor. Make sure your counselor has

extensive experience in dealing with your issues. I went several

years ago to a therapist for sexual abuse. He did not specialize in

this field although he did counsel clients with these issues. I went

3 times and it made things worse. This past July I found a therapist

who specializes in post traumatic stress and sexual abuse. I went

until January and am a new person. She gave me tools to deal with

shame as well as other things. The only way I can describe it is it

feels like my whole life opened up.

Second, try the Kirtan Kriya ( sa ta na ma meditation ). I have been

doing this for nearly 1000 days and it too has made me feel like my

whole life has opened up. The Grace of God Meditation is a powerful

one that I had success with specifically with my issues.

I hope this helps.

Sat Nam

Sat Sangat Kaur

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , " ELLEN TERRELL " <yer-it

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> Is there anyone who can recommend what to do about dealing with

shame. They associate a traumatic event with that but cannot

remember if there was one only being put down when I was young. Are

there kriyas that have been used? Am presently going to a counselor

but not sure if that will work. Any imput will help.

> Thank you

> Ellen

>

>

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Dear Sat Sangat

 

Thank you for your heart given answer. I could feel you through your words.

Lifes a bit of a struggle right now with trying fo fix this ongoing issue,

dealing with a new job and a separation of 36 years. I just bought a book

called Healing the Shame that binds you by John Bradshaw, plus bought a 6 set CD

called Permission To Be Precious by Pia Melody, my counselor recommended. This

counselor is the best I've been to so far. She's very intuitive (maybe a little

psychic) and that helps.

Thank you again for your suggestions. I will look into the meditation you

suggested.

 

Many thanks

Ellen

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Sat Sangat

Kundaliniyoga

Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:45 AM

Kundalini Yoga Re: shame

 

 

Hello Ellen

I have been thinking about your post for several days now. I suggest

two things: Continue to see a counselor. Make sure your counselor has

extensive experience in dealing with your issues. I went several

years ago to a therapist for sexual abuse. He did not specialize in

this field although he did counsel clients with these issues. I went

3 times and it made things worse. This past July I found a therapist

who specializes in post traumatic stress and sexual abuse. I went

until January and am a new person. She gave me tools to deal with

shame as well as other things. The only way I can describe it is it

feels like my whole life opened up.

Second, try the Kirtan Kriya ( sa ta na ma meditation ). I have been

doing this for nearly 1000 days and it too has made me feel like my

whole life has opened up. The Grace of God Meditation is a powerful

one that I had success with specifically with my issues.

I hope this helps.

Sat Nam

Sat Sangat Kaur

 

Kundaliniyoga , " ELLEN TERRELL " <yer-it

wrote:

>

> Is there anyone who can recommend what to do about dealing with

shame. They associate a traumatic event with that but cannot

remember if there was one only being put down when I was young. Are

there kriyas that have been used? Am presently going to a counselor

but not sure if that will work. Any imput will help.

> Thank you

> Ellen

>

>

>

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Namaste

 

dear Danielle, the ways of K Ma and the ways she transforms are truly

astonishing. You stared out the thread and suggested it might not be K

related. And look at all that has unfolded.

 

Danielle this is what i did with it. After reading that vinegar and

water could be harmful to some plants, instantly thought of the ongoing

joy, tenderness, childlike wonder you have held with the seeds that your

dear Teacher gave you. Then your recent report of their little

heads poking through the soil, Ahhhh. . . . All of that is most Holy

Ground for you and when i envisioned that something i suggested could

of brought their demise, my brain got stuck on Oh My God! Oh My God! Oh

My God! That image was as deep as i could take it for nothing from my

past about shame or wrong came forth about my beingness. Nothing except

the image of your precious water melon babies shriveling. Danielle a

truck load of wondrous ripe melons could never replace the delight of

those precious guru seeds that are destined to bring forth a plump

juicey melon.

 

When i think of shame and childhood i use to feel like a monster child.

For my Real Mother was a horse and when my birth mother returned a few

years later the feeling i held for her was to be ashamed of her and for

her to be my mother. As a child i felt like a monster, what kind of kid

holds their mother with shame. Never really understood it until years

later when talking with my sister about my mother's promiscuity with

several men in our conservative rural community and hearing my sister

say how many in the community, extended family, father and would not

verbally say anything about the sexual liaisons but would look hold my

birth mother with shaming energy. It clicked and realized that once

again this was a situation of being a highly energetic child and picking

up other people's feelings as a child then thinking they were my own.

Even as a pre-schooler and grade schooler i would try to understand why

i held my mother with shame but could not sort it through. I felt so

much like a little monster when i would see loving mother/daughter

exchanges with others. As i matured began to see that many of the

things my birth mother did were really ways that brought life,

vitality, and survival for a woman with eight kids and so little so

little support. There was such relief to have an understanding of where

it came from.

 

Love and hugs to you dear Danielle, thanks for your sweetness and

compassion dear One.

 

I am And I am Not

In Duality or Not

Already there or Not

Empty or Fulfilled

 

All the same and Not...

In the Rain in the Sunshine

Each One here: Blessing and Blessed

Love, Peace, Light to All

 

sparrow

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " iamwaitingmoon "

<iamwaitingmoon wrote:

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> Sparrow, I wish to thank you for this mirror of shame. I cannot

imagine any reason for you to hold your head in shame from what you

shared with me. I found it only to be helpful. Yet I have with image a

beautiful, practical creature, with a delicate voice bowing its little

head in shame. You cannot sing beautiful bird when your head is bowed;

you cannot see when your eyes are filled with tears, and you cannot fly

if you are looking down.

>

> It has stirred up some of my significant ego issues of being a

disappointment and feeling ashamed for merely being myself…for

having the interests and loves and skillset and/or the lack there of.

(This is all mom stuff/issues for me; but it is deep and even with her

passing I still experience the hesitance to be my all. For my history

is that when I have voiced or lived my truth and from my heart, I was

shamed and was a disappointment to her. Since the age of 3 this had been

so; actually from my time of birth really. (My dad was always the

opposite with me, hence an odd " balance " between their parenting that

occured in my upbringing).

>

> It has made me think of the instance last night in which I verbally

scolded my dog for chewing on the parsley in my garden…the picture

is vivid in my mind's eye as she held her head in shame. But it was I

who did not listen, as her tummy was upset and this is all she needed.

She meant no harm to the plants and she was not " bad " for doing what

came naturally. It makes me think of that scolding and how it is enough

to stop her, or at least make her hesitant to do the same again,

regardless of what she knew her truth and intent as being.

>

> This is a short version of surfacing ego issues, but I wish to thank

you for this surfacing. I understand that you would have had no idea

that this is where the breadcrumbs would lead me to, but it is a much

needed area to dig up, sift through and expose if I am to sprout and

bloom.

>

> Love and Blessings:

> ~Danielle~

>

 

 

 

 

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