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Namaste

 

 

I would like to know if its better chanting the mantra out loud, or

inner, I have felt that chanting out loud my energy flows better, but

people says that it has to be chanted in the mind. any ideas or

suggestions ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

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Sat Nam, both methods are good, but in KY it is usually specifically advised

if the mantra should be chanted loud or silently, if that mantra is used in

a specific meditation. Other than that, the most important thing about

chanting mantra is to pronounce it correctly and repeating it with a focused

intention on the meaning of the mantra. If you chant aloud , then you are

also activating the meridians in the roof of the mouth and that stimulates

the hypothalamus. So, my advise is to chant them with full concentration on

the meaning and aloud.

 

Happy chanting, Iwona

 

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Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

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Monday, October 06, 2008 11:02 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga MANTRA inner or outer ?

 

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I would like to know if its better chanting the mantra out loud, or

inner, I have felt that chanting out loud my energy flows better, but

people says that it has to be chanted in the mind. any ideas or

suggestions ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Neli,

 

There are different reasons for how one chants a mantra: out loud is considered

to affect the physical, softly is for the mental and silently is for the soul.

There are certain kriyas in which a mantra has to be chanted in a specific

manner but no general rule that would state it is better to chant silently or in

the mind. For instance, there is a kriya in which one chants Sa Ta Na Ma while

pressing the tips of each finger to the thumb and within the time period one

chants out loud, then quietly and finally silently in order to affect all three

realms---physical, mental and soul. If there are no specific instructions I

would think that one can chant a mantra in the manner that feels right.

 

Sat Nam,

Linda

" Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that flow,

life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar

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neli_nelis

Kundaliniyoga

Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:02 AM

Kundalini Yoga MANTRA inner or outer ?

 

 

 

Namaste

 

I would like to know if its better chanting the mantra out loud, or

inner, I have felt that chanting out loud my energy flows better, but

people says that it has to be chanted in the mind. any ideas or

suggestions ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Iwona

 

Thanks for your advice. I really want to stimulate the hypothalamus, as I have a

lot of movement out there, in the crown area, I think that the Kundalini energy

wants to move to the astral planes. I focus myself in the divine presence and

peace when chanting out loud, but mostly I chant with soft voice,  only to be

felt by my 3 bodies, I have heard many times how the OM SHANTI is chanted by

guru Dattatreya and others, so I think I am doing it well, I feel it in my body

and the crown chakra responds immediately. But I cannot make the I am mantra to

react inside my body, sometimes I feel something but very smooth, this mantra is

chanted only in my mind. I would like to know why the OM SHANTI works better

than the I am ? is this because one is chanted in the mind and the other out

loud ? Sometimes I think that the I am mantra is not working in my body. Is it

possible or maybe I cannot feel it yet ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

 

 

 

 

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Sat Nam Neli,

 

There two mantras Om Shanti and I AM work differently . While chanting Om

Shanti you are activating Shanti energy, which can be experienced in your

physical body. In terms of the mantra " I Am " I would suggest that while you

are chanting it, get into the meaning of it and see why you are not

" feeling " it in your body; that way you will get to realize the meaning of

" I Am " :-) I know it's not much of an answer but the answer is in you and

you will " get it " while chanting " I Am " and it will be beyond mental

comprehension.

 

 

 

Happy chanting, Sat Nam, Iwona

 

 

 

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Kundaliniyoga [Kundaliniyoga ]

On Behalf Of neli neilim

Wednesday, October 08, 2008 3:50 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga Re: MANTRA inner or outer ?

 

 

 

Iwona

 

Thanks for your advice. I really want to stimulate the hypothalamus, as I

have a lot of movement out there, in the crown area, I think that the

Kundalini energy wants to move to the astral planes. I focus myself in the

divine presence and peace when chanting out loud, but mostly I chant with

soft voice, only to be felt by my 3 bodies, I have heard many times how the

OM SHANTI is chanted by guru Dattatreya and others, so I think I am doing it

well, I feel it in my body and the crown chakra responds immediately. But I

cannot make the I am mantra to react inside my body, sometimes I feel

something but very smooth, this mantra is chanted only in my mind. I would

like to know why the OM SHANTI works better than the I am ? is this because

one is chanted in the mind and the other out loud ? Sometimes I think that

the I am mantra is not working in my body. Is it possible or maybe I cannot

feel it yet ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

 

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Sat Nam Iwona,

 

Thanks for your reply. You have mentioned that I am activating the Shanti

energy, isn't it the same energy as the Kundalini one ? I mean I feel it rising

from the spine to the Ajna or sometimes the crown. Some people says that one

must not lead the energy to the crown, cause it is dangerous and produces many

symptoms, is that true ? I mean I have being working with this chakra, felt

movements there and I don't feel anything wrong.

Also I would like to know if the " I am " mantra is better to be chanted loud or

in the mind ? I do it both ways, but has no answer in my body, I'll try to focus

more on this mantra to know why it is not working inside me, not aloud or in the

mind, and its supposed to be a very powerful one, that takes the K energy very

up. What I have made these last days, is to chant OM SHREE, OM SHREE, I AM I AM,

NAMAH. But only I feel something when I chant the " Shree Om " , the Om at the end

is supposed to let the energy inside the body, and the OM at the beginning is

supposed to let the energy go outside the body.

 

Is it important to chant this " I am " mantra if its not working on my body ? or

is it better to change it to the Shree Om ? Some people says that the " I am "

mantra lasts a few months to have an impact on the body. But I don't want to

wait that long time.

 

Which is the best mantra to arise more the Kundalini energy , and of course the

Shiva's one ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Neli,

Why you want to arise more K energy? You need to know very clearly why you want

to do that.

When it happen, it happen. Nothing wrong. But when we addicted to it.....??

It has benefits and harmful effects. The problem is when the harmful effect

arises, there is no good way to settle or clean up properly for some people.

They may mentally go crazy or some other external spirit(s) may take control.

But if you can handle and overcome the potential harmful effect,

Congratulations! You are " upgraded " . If you cannot, you may have problem. You

have to handle your desire carefully.

Regards,

Rainbow

 

 

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neli neilim

Kundaliniyoga

Friday, October 10, 2008 5:55 AM

Kundalini Yoga Re: MANTRA inner or outer ?

 

 

Sat Nam Iwona,

 

Thanks for your reply. You have mentioned that I am activating the Shanti

energy, isn't it the same energy as the Kundalini one ? I mean I feel it rising

from the spine to the Ajna or sometimes the crown. Some people says that one

must not lead the energy to the crown, cause it is dangerous and produces many

symptoms, is that true ? I mean I have being working with this chakra, felt

movements there and I don't feel anything wrong.

Also I would like to know if the " I am " mantra is better to be chanted loud or

in the mind ? I do it both ways, but has no answer in my body, I'll try to focus

more on this mantra to know why it is not working inside me, not aloud or in the

mind, and its supposed to be a very powerful one, that takes the K energy very

up. What I have made these last days, is to chant OM SHREE, OM SHREE, I AM I AM,

NAMAH. But only I feel something when I chant the " Shree Om " , the Om at the end

is supposed to let the energy inside the body, and the OM at the beginning is

supposed to let the energy go outside the body.

 

Is it important to chant this " I am " mantra if its not working on my body ? or

is it better to change it to the Shree Om ? Some people says that the " I am "

mantra lasts a few months to have an impact on the body. But I don't want to

wait that long time.

 

Which is the best mantra to arise more the Kundalini energy , and of course

the Shiva's one ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

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Dearest Neli,

Sat Naam, Sat Guru, Sat Sangat - I bow to you.

 

Baba Ji said that many are trying and using various techniques to go to

the " other " side. But him being so ignorant and stupid, just used one way

and that was give everything upto God. Becoming nothing, becoming empty ,

God had no choice but to fill him up, in each and every cell. Like a vacuum

can't stay empty.

 

He explained that the " other " side that people are trying to get to is not

far away, its just the " other " side of your own ego. Its your own higher

consciousness.

 

Guru Nanak Dev Ji also writes in gurbani that many are trying ot raise the

kundalini, but the kundalini rises in the company of the holy. MEans it

rises by God-Guru's grace. Grace comes through the one who's energy is

already risen and who is in the higher consciousness. They bless us with

the mantra that connects us to the Naam, the Ocean of Love. In the love of

the Naam we recite our mantra, and the Naam knows its own way through our

body. God, the Creator , knows His own way through all the energies and

channels, and chakras and nadis in our bodies - He is the Creator of it

afterall.

 

Techniques and mantras are all great, I love yoga and chanting too, but

when you start getting confused and having to pick and choose mantras, then

it means you are at a stage when you need a teacher. Pray for the right

teacher (Guru) for you, to bless you with the Naam, so you may become

nothing, ignorant and stupid, and God can fill you up.

 

dust of your feet

 

Harjit

 

 

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Posted by: " neli neilim " neli_nelis neli_nelis

 

Thu Oct 9, 2008 6:52 pm (PDT)

Sat Nam Iwona,

 

Thanks for your reply. You have mentioned that I am activating the Shanti

energy, isn't it the same energy as the Kundalini one ? I mean I feel it

rising from the spine to the Ajna or sometimes the crown. Some people says

that one must not lead the energy to the crown, cause it is dangerous and

produces many symptoms, is that true ? I mean I have being working with this

chakra, felt movements there and I don't feel anything wrong.

Also I would like to know if the " I am " mantra is better to be chanted loud

or in the mind ? I do it both ways, but has no answer in my body, I'll try

to focus more on this mantra to know why it is not working inside me, not

aloud or in the mind, and its supposed to be a very powerful one, that takes

the K energy very up. What I have made these last days, is to chant OM

SHREE, OM SHREE, I AM I AM, NAMAH. But only I feel something when I chant

the " Shree Om " , the Om at the end is supposed to let the energy inside the

body, and the OM at the beginning is supposed to let the energy go outside

the body.

 

Is it important to chant this " I am " mantra if its not working on my body ?

or is it better to change it to the Shree Om ? Some people says that the " I

am " mantra lasts a few months to have an impact on the body. But I don't

want to wait that long time.

 

Which is the best mantra to arise more the Kundalini energy , and of course

the Shiva's one ?

 

Sat Nam

Neli

 

 

 

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Dear Rainbow,

 

You are right, I have to control my desires. My Kundalini has already arisen

years back, just wanted to feel it stronger, the dangers are when is beginning

to arise, not when is already arised. Some mantras work better than others, but

I think each mantra fits in each body in different ways, as well.

 

The Guru is in you.

Neli

 

 

 

 

 

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