Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Hi Fre, > This evening I started feeling bad, angry, useless etc. Other > practices like Hatha Yoga before just made me feel happy and peaceful. > Can someone explain why I feel bad after the practice? > Is this temporary? I think your instincts on this are probably good. This is the point where many people run away! Kundalini yoga can 'bite' deep and fast. Most people like me believe this is old repressed emotion being stirred up and leaving you. It can be rather hard to know if the emotion comes from the past and is being released or whether it comes from right now - in fact there may not be much difference! It passes and you will feel lighter and more free and happier. The way I look at it this is a price we pay - you pay that price once and you get the benefit of the release for the rest of your life - it is well worth it! > What do I do best? Sleep? I must say I just want to eat now > and drink some beer to make the bad feeling go away, but that's > fleeing for inner fears...no? These feelings can be strong after very intense yoga - like the White Tantric. Yogi Bhajan said eat a pizza! I think this means you can reward yourself with a treat (maybe even a bottle of Kwak?) because it really is something special to go through this. There are many 'somatic' systems and such emotional reactions can happen in them all - people do cry in other types of yoga. The difference is in most other systems the reactions are less common and less powerful and are sort of ignored or played down. In kundalini yoga most of us seek out these reactions and celebrate them because we know they are a sign of fast beneficial change. We may be a little crazy to do this or we may be brave and able to face ourselves and accept what must happen because we know that joy lies beyond it. There are many yogic techniques. Yogi Bhajan gave us some of the more obscure ones that give us the tools to change as fast as we want or can handle. So you have a choice - it is wonderful that we have this choice. You will find a wonderful loving bond with other yogins that have shared this experience. Happiness and Loving Blessings, Keith. PS > bad, angry, useless Thats it indeed! They are our just emotions and thoughts and feelings. They come and go - they are not our everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2008 Report Share Posted November 19, 2008 Sat nam, I want to second this response. And also thank you, because I need this reminder! I also practice Hatha Yoga and feel very good after. And with Kundalini Yoga, I always find strong emotions are raised up. I may feel very powerful, then very small. Sometimes it is hard to realize these emotions arise from our practice [and of course they do not always arise from our practice, sometimes living just causes emotional responses]. We may assume that doing Kundalini Yoga will have us always feeling serene, such is not the case. When I moved into an ashram and I was practicing every day, sometimes twice a day, I found myself one day in class - sobbing! Sobbing so loud, I left the class so as not to disturb. My friends in the ashram told me I was dealing with emotions which had arisen due to being in the House of Ram Dass. I suggest to people who experience the Wham of Kundalini Yoga - if you can, visit an ashram and talk to people there, or post here, or find other people practicing and talk about what arises. It is important to know you are not alone, or 'weird' in your response. Also - there is no " right " or " appropriate " response. It depends on who you are, what are you starting with. I know in my case, I have a lot of stuff from the past I have never dealt with. And I second Keith, from another e-mail, who says, the answer is " Do more yoga " ! Kartar Kaur > I think your instincts on this are probably good. This is the point > where many people run away! Kundalini yoga can 'bite' deep and fast. > Most people like me believe this is old repressed emotion being > stirred up and leaving you. It can be rather hard to know if the > emotion comes from the past and is being released or whether it comes > from right now - in fact there may not be much difference! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 > > This evening I started feeling bad, angry, useless etc. Other > > practices like Hatha Yoga before just made me feel happy and peaceful. > > Can someone explain why I feel bad after the practice? > > Is this temporary? I wanted to share that I have experienced something similar, although in my case the changes took the shape of extreme awareness, truly the ability to see things as they really are...however instead of calmly watching and staying detached from these observations, I proceeded to lash out at my partner, (the nearest person; I'm sure it would have been anybody else who just happened to be nearby!) who was most certainly undeserving of the treatment he was receiving! I was lashing out at him for our circumstances, various character flaws of his and others, etc., etc. This is very uncharacteristic of me -- I have always been a " nice " people pleaser. I found the more yoga I did, the " worse " this got; if I quit for a while I retreated back into maya, and I seemed more " happy " I see that my ability to see truth and my ability to HANDLE it are not necessarily on the same continuum. I have let this all go, and I am now finding that I can be happy and content and still have my illusions shattered. This is true growth. I know that with the technology of KY I will grow to the point where any truth will be painless. I am not afraid; I will embrace the truth no matter what it may be. So my advice would be to lean into those feelings and know they are showing you the technology is working. If you need to give it a rest for a while; that's okay, too. The progress will continue, much like when you can solve a difficult problem after laying it aside for a while and seemingly not thinking about it at all -- somewhere your unconscious is still pondering. Wahe Guru! Hari Shabad Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Sat Nam I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's why we sometimes feel, irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control emotions, everything can be so wonderful, but it takes a long time to control them, and mostly cause they are being enhanced by the energy. Normally the Kundalini energy while being activated, makes people feel so touchy, and so bad. Most of the times we are taken by the energy, without our permission, sometimes we are not even aware of its presence, so for me its an aggressive form of awakening. But once we learn to control it, its wonderful. But it can take a real long time to learn how to control it. Sat Nam Neli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 Sat nam, I see it differently. I don't want to control my emotions - to me that sounds restrictive, as opposed to being expansive. I think with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are more refined. perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate. I am not speaking from experience. I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below: " irritable, mad sad " and more. ....Just my speculation. Kartar Kaur Kundaliniyoga , neli neilim <neli_nelis wrote: > > Sat Nam > > > I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's why we sometimes feel, irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control emotions, everything can be so wonderful, but it takes a long time to control them, and mostly cause they are being enhanced by the energy. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2008 Report Share Posted November 20, 2008 We have sooooo many thoughts that our conscious mind can only hold on to so much,especially when we don't deal with it... and then it gets dumped into the subconscious & when that get's full it get's loaded into the unconscious mind. with Kundalini Yoga my understanding is that when we work on ourselves it reaches way down deep into the subconscious and unconscious mind...which is where alot of our " Shtuff " is, and so when this stirs we feel it. It's a good thing because we want to get rid of all our unnecessary shtuff that no longer serves us...I find that when it comes up to recognize it for what it is, and let it go, release it, don't hold on to it... just a thought (: Sat Naam Jiwan Shakti Kaur --- On Thu, 11/20/08, rasheedaas <rasheedaas wrote: > rasheedaas <rasheedaas > Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga > Kundaliniyoga > Thursday, November 20, 2008, 3:43 PM > Sat nam, > I see it differently. I don't want to control my > emotions - to me that > sounds restrictive, as opposed to being expansive. > > I think with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are > more refined. > perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate. > > I am not speaking from experience. > > I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below: > " irritable, mad > sad " and more. > > ...Just my speculation. > > Kartar Kaur > > > > Kundaliniyoga , neli neilim > <neli_nelis wrote: > > > > Sat Nam > > > > > > I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's > why we sometimes > feel, irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control > emotions, > everything can be so wonderful, but it takes a long time to > control > them, and mostly cause they are being enhanced by the > energy. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yes, KY really stirs up your " stuff " ! It's there all the time, just normally ignored or suppressed under day to day living, but when I did a so darshon chakra kriya meditation, I began to realized that this " stuff " was just endlessly repeating in my mind, in the background. Awful stuff! Thank god no one else could hear it. So maybe it's a work in progress to get it out and processed and neutralized, at whatever speed we are able to handle. There are some different anger sets around. Guru Rattana has one in her on-line library that really gave me results I could feel within hours, and is not too difficult at all. Remember that depression is said to be anger turned inward, so if depression kriyas aren't really working for you, try an anger kriya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Sat Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do K yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The auric field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen more and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat Nam Lily --- On Thu, 11/20/08, wolfsister harmony <wolfsister_harmony wrote: wolfsister harmony <wolfsister_harmony Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga Kundaliniyoga Thursday, November 20, 2008, 5:29 PM We have sooooo many thoughts that our conscious mind can only hold on to so much,especially when we don't deal with it... and then it gets dumped into the subconscious & when that get's full it get's loaded into the unconscious mind. with Kundalini Yoga my understanding is that when we work on ourselves it reaches way down deep into the subconscious and unconscious mind...which is where alot of our " Shtuff " is, and so when this stirs we feel it. It's a good thing because we want to get rid of all our unnecessary shtuff that no longer serves us...I find that when it comes up to recognize it for what it is, and let it go, release it, don't hold on to it... just a thought (: Sat Naam Jiwan Shakti Kaur --- On Thu, 11/20/08, rasheedaas <rasheedaas > wrote: > rasheedaas <rasheedaas > > Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga > Kundaliniyoga > Thursday, November 20, 2008, 3:43 PM > Sat nam, > I see it differently. I don't want to control my > emotions - to me that > sounds restrictive, as opposed to being expansive. > > I think with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are > more refined. > perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate. > > I am not speaking from experience. > > I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below: > " irritable, mad > sad " and more. > > ...Just my speculation. > > Kartar Kaur > > > > Kundaliniyoga, neli neilim > <neli_nelis@ ...> wrote: > > > > Sat Nam > > > > > > I think that Kundalini enhances emotions, that's > why we sometimes > feel, irritable, or mad, or sad, once we learn to control > emotions, > everything can be so wonderful, but it takes a long time to > control > them, and mostly cause they are being enhanced by the > energy. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 > rasheedaas <rasheedaas > I don't want to control my emotions At the moment I think of my emotions as being 'served up' by my subconcious. > with more and more yoga perhaps our emotions are more refined. > perhaps they are gentler and more compassionate. Some of my emotions are reactions to current events. These get less negative as yoga calms me down. Our first line of reaction is fight-or-flight/aversion reflexes, fear, anger, hostility. As you calm down these become less powerful and then we experience more our second line of reactions - which is more compassionate and co-operative. But most emotion comes from past reactions that have not been released (karmic reactivity). We have tensed up & repressed things but as our lives lack proper quiet our natural 'meditative' release systems fail to work. We stir up this release with yoga and up comes emotion from the depths. What I think is that most of our 'emotion' is in our subconcious. All that comes up is stuff we felt a long time ago - but we repressed it and maybe even didn't even notice we felt like that at the time - especially for a macho bloke like me. How spooky! All this sadness and loneliness of a badly loved little boy who denied his own feelings at the time. > I am not speaking from experience. Just innate wisdom then? > I am still in the turbulent stage, as Neli says below: " irritable, > mad sad " and more. And there is layer upon layer upon layer - I expect never to get to the bottom of it. I sense these emotions and think - is this current feeling or is it old stuff coming up? Often I don't know - I don't understand my subconcious. But if I can make myself sad by manipulating my spine what am I. A machine that makes emotions? My emotions are just concious sensing of my internal processing. They 'touch' my shallow self but not the 'deeper self' that lies outside all this commotion. My emotions and feelings need not consume me - they are just stuff - my processing. These days when i get yoga sad I also get this really beautiful feeling that it's all a part of me - lovely feelings and awful ones. But so many of the awful ones will be felt once then never again because I am stopping repressing new stuff (partially!) and emptying out the old stuff. So more & more lovely feelings. Nice. It seems like there are stages beyond this bad that is not for me for now - and maybe not ever. Who knows? Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 --- On Fri, 11/21/08, ramneetfl <ramneetfl wrote: ramneetfl <ramneetfl > so darshon chakra kriya meditation, I began to realized that > this " stuff " was just endlessly repeating in my mind, in the > background. Awful stuff! Thank god no one else could hear it. Maybe they couldn't hear it but do you notice that people react to you differently when some of that stuff has gone? Its this stuff that blights the modern world. Peoples emotions and opinions are polluted by it - it spoils our lives in many ways. FM Alexander (of the Alexander Technique) called modern man 'This Poor Creature'. His brain gave him the power to build civilisation but is structured in such a way he can't analyse himself. He can't see that the pace and choices and sensory bombardment of life overwhelms him and he becomes clogged up with repressed stuff. Only a tiny percentage of people find their way to the 'somatic' systems that let them unravel this mess. Part of Kundalini yoga is one of the best systems ever invented to help us with this. It is one of human-kinds greatest achievements - precious knowledge. I have hopes that western science (thru the theories of harmonic resonance and CEMI(?)) will start to back yoga and this will allow many more people to get its benefits. Just hopes. This stuff has been around for ever and never grasped by many peopel. I guess my own grasp of it is only partial too. Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har Kaur In a message dated 11/21/2008 5:19:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, lilygoodale writes: Sat Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do K yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The auric field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen more and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat Nam Lily **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=h\ ttp://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Oh so true- people may not " hear it " , but they sense it in our auras. Some are more sensitive than others and some are more magnanimous about our " stuff " , but imagine when you've gotten rid of it; how brightly your aura will shine! Kundaliniyoga , Keith Bacon <biftonb wrote: > > > > --- On Fri, 11/21/08, ramneetfl <ramneetfl wrote: > ramneetfl <ramneetfl > > so darshon chakra kriya meditation, I began to realized that > > this " stuff " was just endlessly repeating in my mind, in the > > background. Awful stuff! Thank god no one else could hear it. > Maybe they couldn't hear it but do you notice that people react to you differently when some of that stuff has gone? > > Its this stuff that blights the modern world. Peoples emotions and opinions are polluted by it - it spoils our lives in many ways. FM Alexander (of the Alexander Technique) called modern man 'This Poor Creature'. His brain gave him the power to build civilisation but is structured in such a way he can't analyse himself. He can't see that the pace and choices and sensory bombardment of life overwhelms him and he becomes clogged up with repressed stuff. > Only a tiny percentage of people find their way to the 'somatic' systems that let them unravel this mess. > Part of Kundalini yoga is one of the best systems ever invented to help us with this. It is one of human-kinds greatest achievements - precious knowledge. > I have hopes that western science (thru the theories of harmonic resonance and CEMI(?)) will start to back yoga and this will allow many more people to get its benefits. Just hopes. This stuff has been around for ever and never grasped by many peopel. I guess my own grasp of it is only partial too. > > Keith. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Sat Nam, I do kundalini yoga since 2001, and I really enjoy all the classes, because I feel better, my energy go up, ecc... Now I teach it too and I love stimulate my students, after the classes somebody cry so hard, somebody laught, somebody rest few minuts, somebody scream with other students, so I have a very different people, nervous or very calm, but everybody feel something very strong with their emotion after the yoga kundalini classes. Everyting is good, everyting is God. Light and love. www.yogaluna.eu Onkar Kaur (Paola Natangeli) Kundaliniyoga: BatesCK: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:11:32 -0500Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har KaurIn a message dated 11/21/2008 5:19:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, lilygoodale writes:Sat Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do K yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The auric field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen more and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat Nam Lily**************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=h\ ttp://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp%26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom0000000\ 1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Sat Nam, KY is good but not for everybody! It solve some problem(s) but it creates other problem(s) you don't know! This is typical reaction like those cry, scream and behave like mad after the practice. If they can handle well, that's fine. But if they can't, they will carry the problem and suffer more! The problem is the teacher / master may not be able to solve the problem completely or cleanly, the residual of the problem will still make life difficult for those being stirred up. Say we have 50 people practise KY and 47 of them getting better and reap the benefit of KY. But among them 2-3 people got problem. These will essentially overwhelm the benefit gain by the 47 people. KY is potentially dangerous and I think all practitioners should aware of this. The act of raising Kundalini or stirr up the stuff buried within each of us must be handle very carefully and willingly. Infact, it is not a problem if kundalini raise by itself without the hope of practice KY daily to raise it. This is because in the fantasy of kundalini, people often has one's desire/mind mix into it. However, if you can clean up your own desire(s) in the midst of kundalini energy and feel the relationship between your real self (the knower) and the kundalini energy, nothing of those kundalini is so mysterous when it become your known things. The power lies in the knower, not the known kundalini! You will find those kundalini energy turn into light the body shine and people arround you found that things arround could be change.. Blessing! Rainbow - Paola Natangeli kundaliniyoga kundaliniyoga Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:53 PM RE: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga Sat Nam, I do kundalini yoga since 2001, and I really enjoy all the classes, because I feel better, my energy go up, ecc... Now I teach it too and I love stimulate my students, after the classes somebody cry so hard, somebody laught, somebody rest few minuts, somebody scream with other students, so I have a very different people, nervous or very calm, but everybody feel something very strong with their emotion after the yoga kundalini classes. Everyting is good, everyting is God. Light and love. www.yogaluna.eu Onkar Kaur (Paola Natangeli) Kundaliniyoga: BatesCK: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:11:32 -0500Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har KaurIn a message dated 11/21/2008 5:19:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, lilygoodale writes:Sat Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do K yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The auric field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen more and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat Nam Lily**************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir= ________ Tutto il mondo MSN in un clic. Scarica la Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.com/overview.aspx?loc=it-it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Milk can be dangerous: if you put your nose in a bowl of milk and try to breathe you will drown. There are many practices around that call themselves Kundalini Yoga. Perhaps some of them ARE dangerous. Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan and the teachers who follow him is not dangerous. I have been in this community for 30 years, and no one has ever experienced any ill effects. I suggest anyone who is interested be sure that the Kundalini Yoga they are practicing is as taught by Yogi Bhajan. If you don't like it, fine, but you will not face any danger from it. Some people will have small effects and some will have large effects, but all can be dealt with. Sat nam, Kartar Kaur Kundaliniyoga , Jasmine <raintree wrote: > > Sat Nam, > KY is good but not for everybody! It solve some problem(s) but it creates other problem(s) you don't know! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Dear Jasmine, I want to apologize for my previous post concerning the dangers of KY. I over-reacted to you, the reason is - there are people who try to dissuade people from doing KY- say it will make you crazy, etc. In trying to leap to the defense of this wonderful practice, I over-did it and I hope I did not offend. I realize now that what you are saying is true- there can be great effects brought about by KY and people should be prepared for them. Regards, Sat nam, Kartar Kaur Kundaliniyoga , Jasmine <raintree wrote: > > Sat Nam, > KY is good but not for everybody! It solve some problem(s) but it creates other problem(s) you don't know! > This is typical reaction like those cry, scream and behave like mad after the practice. If they can handle well, that's fine. But if they can't, they will carry the problem and suffer more! The problem is the teacher / master may not be able to solve the problem completely or cleanly, the residual of the problem will still make life difficult for those being stirred up. Say we have 50 people practise KY and 47 of them getting better and reap the benefit of KY. But among them 2-3 people got problem. These will essentially overwhelm the benefit gain by the 47 people. KY is potentially dangerous and I think all practitioners should aware of this. The act of raising Kundalini or stirr up the stuff buried within each of us must be handle very carefully and willingly. > Infact, it is not a problem if kundalini raise by itself without the hope of practice KY daily to raise it. This is because in the fantasy of kundalini, people often has one's desire/mind mix into it. However, if you can clean up your own desire(s) in the midst of kundalini energy and feel the relationship between your real self (the knower) and the kundalini energy, nothing of those kundalini is so mysterous when it become your known things. The power lies in the knower, not the known kundalini! You will find those kundalini energy turn into light the body shine and people arround you found that things arround could be change.. > Blessing! > Rainbow > > - > Paola Natangeli > kundaliniyoga kundaliniyoga > Saturday, November 22, 2008 10:53 PM > RE: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga > > > > Sat Nam, > I do kundalini yoga since 2001, and I really enjoy all the classes, because I feel better, my energy go up, ecc... > Now I teach it too and I love stimulate my students, after the classes somebody cry so hard, somebody laught, somebody rest few minuts, somebody scream with other students, so I have a very different people, nervous or very calm, but everybody feel something very strong with their emotion after the yoga kundalini classes. Everyting is good, everyting is God. > Light and love. > > www.yogaluna.eu > Onkar Kaur (Paola Natangeli) > > Kundaliniyoga: BatesCK: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:11:32 -0500Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga > > How beautifully said - thank you Lily. Sat Nam, Har KaurIn a message dated 11/21/2008 5:19:02 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, lilygoodale writes:Sat Nam, I think the more you practice the more you shine.I feel every time i do K yoga I am polishing myself inside and out and I know I am radiating . The auric field , Electro magnetic field and the dome that surrounds me gets brighter and brighter as things become clearer and clearer and the synchronicities happen more and more frequently and the blessings from god come faster too. Sat Nam Lily**************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir= ________ > Tutto il mondo MSN in un clic. Scarica la Toolbar! > http://toolbar.msn.com/overview.aspx?loc=it-it > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hello, I have never added to this list of discussions before. I just have to say that I have only been practicing KY for around six months and my experience, emotionally, has been just wonderful. I feel light and happy and at one with all. I am grateful to have been introduced to this practice because it has made my emotional life more centered. Blessings to all! Lynda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Dear Kartar, It is very kind of you to protect this wonderful practice. I am in no way to offend anybody. People go crazy because they have the crazy stuff with them. Not only KY but hypnosis or some other practice can also stir their stuff. If they do not have crazy stuff, they will not go crazy. However, if they have the crazy stuff it will eventually surface as a matter of time/space. They will still need to face the music. It happened that with KY the stuff surface faster. KY is a tool and a very sharp tool. If they choose the tool, they must be willing to take full responsibility of their choice. Each of us have our own stuff whether we got the crazy stuff or not we dun know until it surface..(of course some of us have goodgood stuff). It is good to know the potential impact and be prepared. If they can manage with KY, that's fantanstic. But if they can't, probably KY not suitable for them. Those delusional psychotic need special guidance. With dedicated teacher/master arround they are lucky. The question is when they are alone can they handle themselve when they are in a confuse state. The teacher/guru cannot be with them all the time. Thus, the ability to handle themselve is crucial. Best Regards, Jasmine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Dear Jasmine, A student of KY always has the guidance of great masters, even if they are not physically present. In KY practice we always tune in before doing anything else (even the shortest meditation). We chant Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo - this mantra is linking the student to the golden chain of KY teachers. Truth is we are never alone when practicing KY with dedication and honesty, and anything that comes up (joy, courage, fear, insecurity, anger, patience) is just so we learn, understand and grow in ways we would have never seen possible before beginning the journey Many blessings, Prem Siri Kaur P.S. Here is a little more info on Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo This mantra is always the first that is chanted during a session of kundalini yoga or meditation, and is therefore referred to as the Tuning In to your Higher Self Mantra. The literal meaning is, " I bow before my highest consciousness. " Chanting this mantra gets you in touch with your truest self, your highest self. The mantra should be chanted loudly, from the back of the nasal cavity and from the throat. As a rule, it is chanted in prayer pose, with the hands near the heart, palms together, and the knuckles of the thumbs pressed against the breastbone. Inhale deeply and focus your attention on your third-eye point. As you exhale, chant the mantra in one breath. If you can't do it in one breath, take a short breath after Ong Namo. The sound Dev is chanted at a slightly higher tone than the other sounds. As you chant, vibrate your cranium enough to create mild pressure at the chird eye point. Chant this mantra at least three times. --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Jasmine <raintree wrote: Jasmine <raintree Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga Kundaliniyoga Friday, November 28, 2008, 1:54 AM Dear Kartar, It is very kind of you to protect this wonderful practice. I am in no way to offend anybody. People go crazy because they have the crazy stuff with them. Not only KY but hypnosis or some other practice can also stir their stuff. If they do not have crazy stuff, they will not go crazy. However, if they have the crazy stuff it will eventually surface as a matter of time/space. They will still need to face the music. It happened that with KY the stuff surface faster. KY is a tool and a very sharp tool. If they choose the tool, they must be willing to take full responsibility of their choice. Each of us have our own stuff whether we got the crazy stuff or not we dun know until it surface..(of course some of us have goodgood stuff). It is good to know the potential impact and be prepared. If they can manage with KY, that's fantanstic. But if they can't, probably KY not suitable for them. Those delusional psychotic need special guidance. With dedicated teacher/master arround they are lucky. The question is when they are alone can they handle themselve when they are in a confuse state. The teacher/guru cannot be with them all the time. Thus, the ability to handle themselve is crucial. Best Regards, Jasmine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2008 Report Share Posted November 29, 2008 Sat nam, I came across this in the Onine Lessons by GuruRattan, seems very appropriate to this conversation: " In the yogic scriptures it is said that Kundalini yoga is 16 times more powerful than Hatha yoga. On the one hand, that seems to be good news. The Catch 22 is-- How do we make such quick progress? We are confronted with our issues 16 times faster! Kundalini yoga is " In your face yoga. " Spirituality can be a rough ride. A lot of things get better and some things certainly seem to get worse! No spiritual journey is a free lunch. We are obliged to deal with our issues in order to set ourselves free. I remember how some of us naively thought that everything would be blissful on a spiritual path. Many of us used to think that enlightenment was just a few meditations away. At one Ladies Camp many years ago, Yogi Bhajan responded to this fanciful interpretation of spirituality. He said, " I never told you that you would not have problems. I told you that you would be able to get through them.! " Kartar Kaur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Dear Prem, Thanks for your reply. Noted mantra come into play with protection purpose and to chant with feeling. Many blessings, Jasmine - Toni Tosa Kundaliniyoga Friday, November 28, 2008 9:32 PM Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga Dear Jasmine, A student of KY always has the guidance of great masters, even if they are not physically present. In KY practice we always tune in before doing anything else (even the shortest meditation). We chant Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo - this mantra is linking the student to the golden chain of KY teachers. Truth is we are never alone when practicing KY with dedication and honesty, and anything that comes up (joy, courage, fear, insecurity, anger, patience) is just so we learn, understand and grow in ways we would have never seen possible before beginning the journey Many blessings, Prem Siri Kaur P.S. Here is a little more info on Ong Namo Guru Dev Namo This mantra is always the first that is chanted during a session of kundalini yoga or meditation, and is therefore referred to as the Tuning In to your Higher Self Mantra. The literal meaning is, " I bow before my highest consciousness. " Chanting this mantra gets you in touch with your truest self, your highest self. The mantra should be chanted loudly, from the back of the nasal cavity and from the throat. As a rule, it is chanted in prayer pose, with the hands near the heart, palms together, and the knuckles of the thumbs pressed against the breastbone. Inhale deeply and focus your attention on your third-eye point. As you exhale, chant the mantra in one breath. If you can't do it in one breath, take a short breath after Ong Namo. The sound Dev is chanted at a slightly higher tone than the other sounds. As you chant, vibrate your cranium enough to create mild pressure at the chird eye point. Chant this mantra at least three times. --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Jasmine <raintree wrote: Jasmine <raintree Re: Kundalini Yoga Re:Emotional reactions after Kundalini Yoga Kundaliniyoga Friday, November 28, 2008, 1:54 AM Dear Kartar, It is very kind of you to protect this wonderful practice. I am in no way to offend anybody. People go crazy because they have the crazy stuff with them. Not only KY but hypnosis or some other practice can also stir their stuff. If they do not have crazy stuff, they will not go crazy. However, if they have the crazy stuff it will eventually surface as a matter of time/space. They will still need to face the music. It happened that with KY the stuff surface faster. KY is a tool and a very sharp tool. If they choose the tool, they must be willing to take full responsibility of their choice. Each of us have our own stuff whether we got the crazy stuff or not we dun know until it surface..(of course some of us have goodgood stuff). It is good to know the potential impact and be prepared. If they can manage with KY, that's fantanstic. But if they can't, probably KY not suitable for them. Those delusional psychotic need special guidance. With dedicated teacher/master arround they are lucky. The question is when they are alone can they handle themselve when they are in a confuse state. The teacher/guru cannot be with them all the time. Thus, the ability to handle themselve is crucial. Best Regards, Jasmine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Kundaliniyoga , " BiftonB " <biftonb wrote: > > Hi Fre, > These feelings can be strong after very intense yoga - like the White > Tantric. Yogi Bhajan said eat a pizza! I think this means you can > reward yourself with a treat (maybe even a bottle of Kwak?) because it > really is something special to go through this. > There are many 'somatic' systems and such emotional reactions can > happen in them all - people do cry in other types of yoga. The > difference is in most other systems the reactions are less common and > less powerful and are sort of ignored or played down. In kundalini > yoga most of us seek out these reactions and celebrate them because we > know they are a sign of fast beneficial change. > We may be a little crazy to do this or we may be brave and able to > face ourselves and accept what must happen because we know that joy > lies beyond it. > There are many yogic techniques. Yogi Bhajan gave us some of the more > obscure ones that give us the tools to change as fast as we want or > can handle. So you have a choice - it is wonderful that we have this > choice. > > You will find a wonderful loving bond with other yogins that have > shared this experience. > Happiness and Loving Blessings, > Keith. > > PS > bad, angry, useless > Thats it indeed! They are our just emotions and thoughts and feelings. > They come and go - they are not our everything. > i think it has to do with your internal organs, getting cleaned out and stirred up. especially the liver which has alot to do with emotions, hence the urge to drink comes in when the liver is being effected. also the adrenals it sounds like. just observe the energy goes through different areas of the body, the effects, things becoming clearer, calmer, whatsoever is there keep observing. the mind always wants to label a sensation with words, but first it is a sensation, just energy. Good luck friend Peace be with You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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