Guest guest Posted May 11, 2007 Report Share Posted May 11, 2007 Body drops stimulate nerves for digestion. GuruBandhu Kundalini-Yoga , " Bob Knight " <rak wrote: > > Sat Nam, > > One of my students told me that after our last class her arms grew numb and > that this was a result of a 7 minute breath of fire meditation. She was > advised by her physical therapist to be more gently in doing breath of fire > and that there were small muscle groups just below the neck which probably > got too much exercise in that session. Has anyone heard of this before? She > also asked me about the benefits of Body Drops and I replied that it was an > exercise for apana/elimination. Are there any other benefits from this > exercise? Thanks in advance. > > Bob Knight > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 My unprofessional, purely experiential with body drops is two-fold. first that my body has felt too delicate for them at times - so I employ the golden rule of yoga of listening to my body and making appropriate wise decisions. I have also experienced re-alignment from doing body drops when my body was stronger, but still - clearly - out of whack. -- SaraHope Smith " If the success or failure of this planet and of human beings depended on how I am and what I do. How would I be? What would I do? " R. Bucky Fuller Support the Biodiesel Council of CA next time you go to purchase a book online! http://californiabiodiesel.net/?q=node/23 Begin your shopping for any book from this link to Amazon and the BCC gets a donation! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 In regard to Bob Knight's experience of a student's therapist saying that small muscle groups probably got too much exercise in Breath of Fire for 7 minutes: Yes, I had one student who said her physical therapist said Breath of Fire wasn't good for her, and who experienced neck pain from doing B of F. Ananda K. AnneAnne Leggett Walker, MBACell: 214 629 5662Fax: 1 866 271 9890anne_leggettwalker Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 > In regard to Bob Knight's experience of a student's therapist saying that small muscle groups probably got too much exercise in Breath of Fire for 7 minutes: > > Yes, I had one student who said her physical therapist said Breath of Fire wasn't good for her, and who experienced neck pain from doing B of F. > I don't buy it! The breath of fire when done right should not affect people with too much muscle exercise! In the beginning I ask students to do it 2 or 3 minutes at a time until they get the hang of using the diaphragm, because it is more of a diaphragm breath than an abdominal breath and people aren't used to using their diaphragm muscles. So the short time is just for getting used to the muscles to engage. Not because of using muscles too much. And neck pain? This student isn't probably not doing the BOF correctly. Watch your students when they do BOF, only the diaphragm should be moving, and the abdomen slightly as well. The shoulders and head remain very still. I see too many people working very hard with their shoulders and faces while doing the BOF. I ask them to notice their shoulders and face and allow them to relax and allow their breath to be rhythmic yet effortless. Blessings, Awtar Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I agree with Awtar Singh in response to the BOF matter. Also, if the student is having neck pain, perhaps they are not tucking their chin in correctly. The only contraindication for BOF that I know of, because I have it, is if you have high blood pressure, you should not do BOF. However, I have actually been able to do it for a short time - at least 3 minutes - and actually notice that it does not raise my blood pressure. I will do the remainder of the time (if, say it is being taught for 7 minutes) breathing long deep breathing through curled tongue and open mouth - too cool the body. Blessings- Guru Jiwan Kaur Corrales, New Mexico "Time and space and the breath of life are the living triangle of life. Every process is a moment. Every moment is a process." ~Yogi Bhajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 The way I was taught BOF was to start the students off by panting with their mouth open and then switch to the nose BOF...that seems to keep it going the right way... Siri Chand Kundalini-Yoga , " Bob Knight " <rak wrote: > > Sat Nam, > > One of my students told me that after our last class her arms grew numb and > that this was a result of a 7 minute breath of fire meditation. She was > advised by her physical therapist to be more gently in doing breath of fire > and that there were small muscle groups just below the neck which probably > got too much exercise in that session. Has anyone heard of this before? She > also asked me about the benefits of Body Drops and I replied that it was an > exercise for apana/elimination. Are there any other benefits from this > exercise? Thanks in advance. > > Bob Knight > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dear Siri Chand: With all due respect that is not quite correct. BOF is not equivalent to panting through the nose. That would put the emphasis of the breath on the naval point. Instead the BOF needs to be commanded higher, from the solar plexus, which creates the exhale by pressing in and up into the diaphragm and creates the inhale by relaxing the solar plexus. During the entire BOF the sinuses are kept open to allow the breath to happen freely. Notice how normal breathing is commanded by the nose area. The nose plays a much more passive role in the BOF. Blessings, Awtar Singh > > The way I was taught BOF was to start the students off by panting with > their mouth open and then switch to the nose BOF...that seems to keep > it going the right way... > Siri Chand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Kundalini-Yoga , " yogahs " <kundalini_yoga wrote: > > Dear Siri Chand: > > With all due respect that is not quite correct. BOF is not equivalent > to panting through the nose. That would put the emphasis of the breath > on the naval point. Instead the BOF needs to be commanded higher, from > the solar plexus, which creates the exhale by pressing in and up into > the diaphragm and creates the inhale by relaxing the solar plexus. > During the entire BOF the sinuses are kept open to allow the breath to > happen freely. Notice how normal breathing is commanded by the nose > area. The nose plays a much more passive role in the BOF. > > Blessings, Awtar Singh > > > > > The way I was taught BOF was to start the students off by panting with > > their mouth open and then switch to the nose BOF...that seems to keep > > it going the right way... > > Siri Chand I also heard this from a doctor MD whose also a KY teacher and works with people in changing their breathing patterns all the time. She teaches them BOF through the mouth in the beginning so they can learn it easier because their breathing is so dysfunctional. When they get the mechanics down then she switches them to do it through the nose. Atma Kaur > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I, too, learned BOF first by "panting like a dog" through an open mouth with the tongue out. Once we developed the rhythm, we were then told to close the mouth and let the breath come in and out of the nose, allowing the belly to move. This was taught by a teacher who was taught by Yogi Bhajan since the early days. Guru Jiwan Kaur "Time and space and the breath of life are the living triangle of life. Every process is a moment. Every moment is a process." ~Yogi Bhajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 hello- a quick question- do you practice any locks when you do breath of fire or are you suppose to breathe completely without locking at all?- any tips on visualization or anything to nudge forward my work with this breath would be helpful too.thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Kundaliniyoga , " rachele " <selkie0 wrote: > > hello- a quick question- do you practice any locks when you do breath > of fire or are you suppose to breathe completely without locking at > all?- any tips on visualization or anything to nudge forward my work > with this breath would be helpful too.thanks! > Sat Nam Rachele: The basic Breath Of Fire technique as I was taught. 1. Sit straight and place the hands in Prayer Pose. Keep in mind that Breath of Fire is used in a variety of Postures in different Kriyas, but te basic form requires a straight back and the rib cage be lifted. This keeps the upper body from interfeering wit the pulsation of the navel point. 2. Close the eyelids to 9/10th. Or if easier, just close your eyes. 3. Roll the eyes up and concentrate on the Brow Point. 4. The movment of the navel is the only factor actively involved. 5. You may mentally vibrate SAT on inhalation and Naam on exhalation. There are two other variations for the Breath of Fire. They are more advanced forms and are rarely used in Kriyas. To learn them I strongly recommend you seek the teachings of a certified Kundalini Yoga Teacher. In one, the diaphragm provides the motor force so that the navel point follows. Here the diaphragm moves up and down providing the controlling force instead of the in and up stimulation of the navel point whic follows it. Here the breath is through the mouth and the tongue is extended. The other form of Breath of Fire uses the pelvic diaphragm. Here the pelvic diaphragm contracts on exhalation and relaxes on inhalation. The breath is through the nose. I hope this helps. Sat Nam José Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hi Rachelle, I always practice chin lock with breath of fire. (Pulling my chin in slightly like a soldier at attention.) And then I also try to think " sat " as I inhale and " nam " as I exhale. Remember to keep the breath light and in rythme, pulling in your stomach on the exhale, but don't try to hard, let the breath breathe you. As you start to feel more relaxed in the breath you can make it more forceful and faster. I hope this helps. Peace, Sail Kundaliniyoga , " rachele " <selkie0 wrote: > > hello- a quick question- do you practice any locks when you do breath > of fire or are you suppose to breathe completely without locking at > all?- any tips on visualization or anything to nudge forward my work > with this breath would be helpful too.thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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