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Hello Michelle,

What you are doing is good regarding the diet and

the yoga. It reads as if you are feeling tired and that the body

wants more sleep. The Kundalini will ask this of you at times. This

shouldn't be interpreted as depression or an illness. There are a

very many changes going on inside of you and the body will need

more " down " time. Even when it's sunny. lol.

 

Also if you have depressed thoughts or issues of self worth or not

fitting in. These are also aspects of the change as you come into

contact with aspects of the self that are being altered.

 

Please go into the safeties and give yourself an experience of your

Inner Joy. Follow those instructions and focus on the positive

aspects of what has been occurring. Keep the tongue up and do the

locks. If you are a vegetarian but Kundalini wants you to eat some

meat then please eat some meat. It is needed or wouldn't be asked

for.

 

Surrender completely to the agenda of the Kundalini. Hold nothing

back 24/7. Let it do its work with you and express your gratitude

for the experiences that come and have already occurred. Look at the

Chakra breathing and at the breathing in the safeties and do these

as they can bring a balance to your flow.

 

Please do some high energy excersices. Daily.

 

Keep us apprised of your situation -

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Welcome Shellie! It has been my experience that these episodes of

feeling down will lessen as time goes on... the longer you're here

and the safeties become part of your every day. There's nothing to

fear... just think of what an amazing gift this is you're

experiencing, and know that you couldn't have found a better place to

continue learning and to grow... love & light ~Jen~

 

, " Michelle "

<mindful_healing wrote:

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> Hi,

>

> To introduce myself, I'm Michelle or Shellie to most, and have

> realized my kundalini was awakened about 4 months ago. I believe it

> was initially awakened during my reiki attunement about a year ago,

> where I felt intense energy rushes through my body.

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Yes absolutely it helps. i was passing through the same situation 'n

one of my friend introduced me to a mission helping people meditation.

i wasn't in a position to do it well regularely but gradually i could

do that 'n now feel better 'n confident. everything is gone.

try it with just watching your breathing for few minutes then keep

doin more time you'll be alright.

GOD BLESS YOU.

regards.

 

On 7/27/09, shaun1154 <shaunjd wrote:

> Hello,

> Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

> I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very traumatic

> period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a time needed

> medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good for a long,

> long time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga, and more

> recently, kundalini.

> Now, though, I am finding that I can actually feel myself falling back into

> the pattern- lack of interest in anything, self hatred, incredible sadness,

> no energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a real physical sensation

> in addition to being something " emotional " . I do not want to start on meds

> again if I can help it. I have a couple of questions-

> 1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to yoga?

> It seems to be so much more acute-

> 2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am too

> sad to make myself do much) (maybe as I feel better, I can increase time?)to

> make me feel better- at least to help stop the incessant desire to cry? I

> have much to be grateful for- so no real reason to be so sad- except that I

> can't stand myself. short meditations, exercises, anything? I feel so badly,

> cause I was doing well practicing, but now I can't force myself to even

> practice breathing......

> 3. I dreamed last night that I could fly. I was flying all over, and I was

> so happy in my dream. Does this mean anything?

> 4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

> thanks for any help/advice.

> Shaun

>

>

>

 

 

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Makrand.Jani.

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yes it can. i used it for three years and everyday it snapped me out of my

depression. first i started with sat kriya to awaken the energy then nabhi kriya

to contain it and build the third chakra. finally kriyas like mahan gyan

mudra...if you push through the pain in your arms for the full 11mins you will

find relief and a new energy will enter your heart and throat, but if you don´t

do sat and nabhi kriya first for a few months the energy will leak out of you in

5minutes. just doing nabi made me feel likea new person see free online lessons

kundalini yoga. transitions to heart centered world is a good book to buy. the

naval energy kriya, smiling buddha, balancing the nervous and immune systems

really worked and changed my life for about three years and i was not only

feeling better but had a new sense of creativity and enjoyment that i had never

experienced before in my life. try these kriyas they work..your can eventually

build them to 31mins some

of the arm kriyas but esentially what they do is raise angry energy and

transform to action energy at the heart and throat so that you can really be in

the moment and enjoy yourself.  Other kriyas like sodarshan kriya i´ve done for

900 days and they can be trying because they make yuou face the dark side of

your personallity. often the ego in a last ditch effort to keep old habits will

put you in a dark period for a couple of days before you have a

breakthrough..this is meditation which is cleaning house. That being said you

could have an asymetricial brain hemisphere´s which could be alleviatedvery

effectively through brainwave entrainment.

--- On Mon, 7/27/09, shaun1154 <shaunjd wrote:

 

 

shaun1154 <shaunjd

Kundalini Yoga depression

Kundaliniyoga

Monday, July 27, 2009, 3:56 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hello,

Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very traumatic

period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a time needed

medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good for a long, long

time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga, and more recently,

kundalini.

Now, though, I am finding that I can actually feel myself falling back into the

pattern- lack of interest in anything, self hatred, incredible sadness, no

energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a real physical sensation in

addition to being something " emotional " . I do not want to start on meds again if

I can help it. I have a couple of questions-

1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to yoga? It

seems to be so much more acute-

2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am too sad to

make myself do much) (maybe as I feel better, I can increase time?)to make me

feel better- at least to help stop the incessant desire to cry? I have much to

be grateful for- so no real reason to be so sad- except that I can't stand

myself. short meditations, exercises, anything? I feel so badly, cause I was

doing well practicing, but now I can't force myself to even practice

breathing... ...

3. I dreamed last night that I could fly. I was flying all over, and I was so

happy in my dream. Does this mean anything?

4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

thanks for any help/advice.

Shaun

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sat Nam Shaun;

 

I have no answer for you. I just want you to know that I too have

depression. Presently I am on 3 different pharmacuticals.

 

I met a Power Yoga instructor Sunday who told me to " Let go or Lexapro " .

(conincidental that I am on Lexapro?)[?]

 

I am in a shelter and unable to practice KY....now that I cannot do it I

crave it....of course when I have a home it is a struggle to get the ego to

let me practice!

 

Many blessings to you-

 

Om Shanti,

 

Jaya (Jennie)

 

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:56 PM, shaun1154 <shaunjd wrote:

 

>

>

> Hello,

> Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

> I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very

> traumatic period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a time

> needed medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good for a

> long, long time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga, and more

> recently, kundalini.

> Now, though, I am finding that I can actually feel myself falling back into

> the pattern- lack of interest in anything, self hatred, incredible sadness,

> no energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a real physical sensation

> in addition to being something " emotional " . I do not want to start on meds

> again if I can help it. I have a couple of questions-

> 1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to yoga?

> It seems to be so much more acute-

> 2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am too

> sad to make myself do much) (maybe as I feel better, I can increase time?)to

> make me feel better- at least to help stop the incessant desire to cry? I

> have much to be grateful for- so no real reason to be so sad- except that I

> can't stand myself. short meditations, exercises, anything? I feel so badly,

> cause I was doing well practicing, but now I can't force myself to even

> practice breathing......

> 3. I dreamed last night that I could fly. I was flying all over, and I was

> so happy in my dream. Does this mean anything?

> 4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

> thanks for any help/advice.

> Shaun

>

>

>

 

 

 

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If you have a strong determination to do that,it doesn't require home.

you should develope strong desire from inside. 'n just start at once.

definately you will feel better 'n won't need any medicine as they are

posions for human body.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Regards.

 

 

On 7/28/09, Jennie Kern <kernj5560 wrote:

>

>

> Sat Nam Shaun;

>

> I have no answer for you. I just want you to know that I too have

> depression. Presently I am on 3 different pharmacuticals.

>

> I met a Power Yoga instructor Sunday who told me to " Let go or Lexapro " .

> (conincidental that I am on Lexapro?)[?]

>

> I am in a shelter and unable to practice KY....now that I cannot do it I

> crave it....of course when I have a home it is a struggle to get the ego to

> let me practice!

>

> Many blessings to you-

>

> Om Shanti,

>

> Jaya (Jennie)

>

> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 3:56 PM, shaun1154 <shaunjd wrote:

>

>>

>>

>> Hello,

>> Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

>> I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very

>> traumatic period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a time

>> needed medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good for a

>> long, long time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga, and

>> more

>> recently, kundalini.

>> Now, though, I am finding that I can actually feel myself falling back

>> into

>> the pattern- lack of interest in anything, self hatred, incredible

>> sadness,

>> no energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a real physical sensation

>> in addition to being something " emotional " . I do not want to start on meds

>> again if I can help it. I have a couple of questions-

>> 1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to yoga?

>> It seems to be so much more acute-

>> 2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am too

>> sad to make myself do much) (maybe as I feel better, I can increase

>> time?)to

>> make me feel better- at least to help stop the incessant desire to cry? I

>> have much to be grateful for- so no real reason to be so sad- except that

>> I

>> can't stand myself. short meditations, exercises, anything? I feel so

>> badly,

>> cause I was doing well practicing, but now I can't force myself to even

>> practice breathing......

>> 3. I dreamed last night that I could fly. I was flying all over, and I was

>> so happy in my dream. Does this mean anything?

>> 4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

>> thanks for any help/advice.

>> Shaun

>>

>>

>>

>

>

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Read this book only fear dies by barry long trust me

 

 

shaun1154 <shaunjd

Monday, July 27, 2009 4:56 PM

Kundaliniyoga

Kundalini Yoga depression

 

 

Hello,

Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very traumatic

period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a time needed

medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good for a long, long

time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga, and more recently,

kundalini.

Now, though, I am finding that I can actually feel myself falling back into the

pattern- lack of interest in anything, self hatred, incredible sadness, no

energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a real physical sensation in

addition to being something " emotional " . I do not want to start on meds again if

I can help it. I have a couple of questions-

1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to yoga? It

seems to be so much more acute-

2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am too sad

to make myself do much) (maybe as I feel better, I can increase time?)to make me

feel better- at least to help stop the incessant desire to cry? I have much to

be grateful for- so no real reason to be so sad- except that I can't stand

myself. short meditations, exercises, anything? I feel so badly, cause I was

doing well practicing, but now I can't force myself to even practice

breathing......

3. I dreamed last night that I could fly. I was flying all over, and I was so

happy in my dream. Does this mean anything?

4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

thanks for any help/advice.

Shaun

 

 

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Thank you for your reply. but i had n't any fear.

regards.

 

On 7/29/09, meddah <meddahmorphosis wrote:

> Read this book only fear dies by barry long trust me

>

>

> shaun1154 <shaunjd

> Monday, July 27, 2009 4:56 PM

> Kundaliniyoga

> Kundalini Yoga depression

>

>

> Hello,

> Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

> I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very

> traumatic period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a time

> needed medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good for a

> long, long time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga, and more

> recently, kundalini.

> Now, though, I am finding that I can actually feel myself falling back into

> the pattern- lack of interest in anything, self hatred, incredible sadness,

> no energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a real physical sensation

> in addition to being something " emotional " . I do not want to start on meds

> again if I can help it. I have a couple of questions-

> 1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to yoga?

> It seems to be so much more acute-

> 2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am too

> sad to make myself do much) (maybe as I feel better, I can increase time?)to

> make me feel better- at least to help stop the incessant desire to cry? I

> have much to be grateful for- so no real reason to be so sad- except that I

> can't stand myself. short meditations, exercises, anything? I feel so badly,

> cause I was doing well practicing, but now I can't force myself to even

> practice breathing......

> 3. I dreamed last night that I could fly. I was flying all over, and I was

> so happy in my dream. Does this mean anything?

> 4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

> thanks for any help/advice.

> Shaun

>

>

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Sat Nam Shaun:

 

CHANT, CHANT, CHANT...

 

Chanting involves Will, which depends on Emotions, which will lead to

Desires and Actions.

 

Chanting involves breath control, whether conscious of it or not. With

breath control, the mind receives direction...from your own Soul. With

chanting, any Pranic Body imbalance will start to harmonize. With

chanting the prana-apana will revolve at the Navel Center so the true

healing energy may irradiate.

 

Chant the name of Guru, Shabd Guru, the Master within. Rise up and

chant to the Infinite.

 

The miracle mantra, Guru-Guru-Wahe-Guru...Guru-Ram-Das-Guru. Chant it!

One minue, two, five, eleven, it does not matter. You will find

yourself chanting it all day long!

 

I know you have received very wise advise from many in this group.

Follow your Self.

 

My advise is very simple and I humbly submit it to your consideration.

 

Simran, remembrance and repetition of the Name, Nam, Naad, Shabd. The

Bhagavad Gita mentions " it is the highest form of spiritual practice " .

 

Says Guru Arjun, AG-517

 

" Within our hearts we contemplate the Master,

 

On our tongue is his holy Name,

 

In our eyes resides his form,

 

In our ears resounds the divine melody.

 

We remain completely engrossed in his remembrance,

 

We become merged in the state of ceaselessly dweling upon him.

 

Our mind and intellect are completely coloured

 

With the dye of his constant remembrance.

 

Such persons alone gain honour and glory in the court of the Lord,

 

And thus fulfill the great destiny of human life. "

 

Sat Nam

 

Adi Singh

 

 

 

 

Kundaliniyoga , " shaun1154 " <shaunjd wrote:

>

> Hello,

> Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

> I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very

traumatic period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a

time needed medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good

for a long, long time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga,

and more recently, kundalini.

> Now, though, I am finding that I can actually feel myself falling back

into the pattern- lack of interest in anything, self hatred, incredible

sadness, no energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a real

physical sensation in addition to being something " emotional " . I do not

want to start on meds again if I can help it. I have a couple of

questions-

> 1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to

yoga? It seems to be so much more acute-

> 2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am

too sad to make myself do much) (maybe as I feel better, I can increase

time?)to make me feel better- at least to help stop the incessant desire

to cry? I have much to be grateful for- so no real reason to be so sad-

except that I can't stand myself. short meditations, exercises,

anything? I feel so badly, cause I was doing well practicing, but now I

can't force myself to even practice breathing......

> 3. I dreamed last night that I could fly. I was flying all over, and I

was so happy in my dream. Does this mean anything?

> 4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

> thanks for any help/advice.

> Shaun

>

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Please try this meditation and think about your association with the feet of

the Lord during the day and night when you are free.

 

Try to think at the solar plexus level and navel point level when you are

not feeling grounded.

 

Apart from this go for walk and jogging daily to release excess energy which

is very important.

 

Ask Him For strength.

 

*

 

Meditation of the Week

Deep Memory of a Past Projection

 

Past Projections can tempt, hypnotize, and distract us. A deep memory holds

the impact of trauma, of disruptions of our identity. This Projection goes

away from that. It is cautious about intensity from the past. Too much of

this Projection, and depression, detachment, and lower learning develop. Too

little and nostalgia, procrastination, and regrets dominate. When balanced,

you become a rapid social learner. You are quick to avoid past temptations,

and are able to let go of things that do not concern or serve you now.

 

Synchronization Meditation

 

Sit straight. Eyes look at the tip of the nose. Place the fingertips of each

hand together with the other hand. Form a “teepee” and place it in front of

the torso at the level of the solar plexus. Fingers are spread and facing

forward. Inhale deeply through the nose. Hold as you mentally chant “Saa taa

naa maa” once. Then exhale by segmenting the breath in eight equal strokes.

Breathe out through the rounded mouth. The exhale is not from the tip of the

lips; it comes from the middle of the mouth and is generated from the navel.

By the eighth exhale, pull the navel point all the way back towards the

spine.

 

Continue for 11 minutes. Increase the time slowly to 31 minutes.

 

The past is dropped. The five elements clear to reveal your real self. You

see all without being caught up in any of it. Let go, let it flow.

 

**Dust at His Feet*

*harpreet*

 

 

 

 

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:26 AM, shaun1154 <shaunjd wrote:

 

>

>

> Hello,

> Pardon me that this is a long question. It has to do with depression.

> I suffered from depression a long time ago (15 yrs), during a very

> traumatic period in my life. I struggled my way out of it, and for a time

> needed medication. I thought I had it beat. I have felt really good for a

> long, long time. Part of this is due to starting to practice yoga, and more

> recently, kundalini.

>

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Hi Shaun,

 

shaun1154 <shaunjd

> ...incredible sadness, no energy, etc. I find that it almost feels like a

real physical sensation in addition to being something " emotional " .

Thats true. When you do 'physical' yoga it changes your emotions,

For 2 months when I lived in winter Belfast I would go out job hunting and come

home depressed and feeling alone. It took me 45 to 90 minutes of yoga type

things to get me back to feeling neutral or sometimes even happy.

Most days I went thru this cycle of depression coming up threatening to

overwhelm me then sending it away by 'working on myself'.

I am lucky because I didnt have self-loathing more just lack of self respect.

> 1. Could my increased awareness of what is happening to me be due to yoga?

For sure it is and this understanding is the key to your way out. Yoga shows us

that it is not just the world that makes us depressed but the way we react to

the world - with our mind/body as a whole . When you develop tis sensititivy you

can feel

the processes inside you that are your negative reactions and you can stop or

minimise them. Clming your nervous system is a ig part of this.

 

> 2. What can I do (in a short amount of time each day- only cause I am too sad

to make myself do much)

I only know from my own case but I think a pranayama/meditation to chage your

'mind' state a bit like Meditaiton to Conquer self-animosity - others may

suggest somethig bettr.

This will put you in a quiet space and from there it may be easier to start a

kriya that wll really help you. When I was alone with ots of time I realised

this was a lucky place to be - noting to do except yoga! How lucky.

 

> 4. Can kundalini help me? Please say yes.

It is a tool to let you help yourself - but you must work. That is nearly yes

and it is not said just to help you the is the truth.

Do boy go!

Shaun

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