Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Sat Nam Julie x, Where did you find this info? There are stories about it's use about how to, and how NOT to use it. Dharam www.gongology.com Julie wrote: > Sat Nam... > > I came accross the following mantra 'Alak, Baba Sri Chand, Derak' which is said to send negativity back to the originator. It stated that this can be used for situations that are unintentional as well as intentional! > > Apparantly Yogi Bajan used this mantra. > > I've not been able to find any information about this - can anyone help? Also would sending negative energy back compound the situation instead of creating healing? Does this mantra return the energy with a healing/loving vibration? > > Any clarification would be greatly appreciated > Sat Nam... > Julie x > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2009 Report Share Posted September 20, 2009 Sat Nam Dharam I saw this on a website. Have you used it? Do you have any advice/information.... It has evoked a reaction in me, I'm not sure why but I feel I need to understand it more! ________________________________ d h a r a m <pranahsaurus Kundaliniyoga Sunday, 20 September, 2009 18:23:59 Re: Kundalini Yoga Mantra.... for protection Sat Nam Julie x, Where did you find this info? There are stories about it's use about how to, and how NOT to use it. Dharam www.gongology. com Julie wrote: > Sat Nam... > > I came accross the following mantra 'Alak, Baba Sri Chand, Derak' which is said to send negativity back to the originator. It stated that this can be used for situations that are unintentional as well as intentional! > > Apparantly Yogi Bajan used this mantra. > > I've not been able to find any information about this - can anyone help? Also would sending negative energy back compound the situation instead of creating healing? Does this mantra return the energy with a healing/loving vibration? > > Any clarification would be greatly appreciated > Sat Nam... > Julie x > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Baba Siri Chand is always with us When we share with you the food that we produced with our own hands, our own labor, you will all receive Baba Siri Chand's love. You may not be able to sense it in your body, but perhaps you will feel it in your soul. Baba Siri Chand's love always fills everyone who comes to him. He is the fountain of kindness. Baba Siri Chand looked on everyone with the same love, the same blessings. He taught them to overlook people's caste, religion, and personality and always recognize the Omnipresent God in every person, as also in animals, in trees, in the earth. He never proclaimed any separate religion or separate principles. Rather, he stressed universal love of the One God Who pervades all of Creation, Whom we call by different names, worship in different ways, and meditate upon by different methods. Baba Siri Chand is with us today, as are Hazrat Mohammad, Jesus, Guru Nanak Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and the other messengers of God. We cannot see them because we have closed our internal eyes and just look with our external eyes. Baba Siri Chand was beyond the thrall of birth and death. He proved what Guru Nanak said: " /Gurmukh avai jae nisang /-The one whose whole life is turned toward God can come and go as he pleases. " [13] At the age of 149 when Baba Siri Chand was sitting giving a discourse, he got up and said, " I am leaving now. " Where did he go? Wherever he wanted. He walked away dressed just as he was, in his sandals. It is said that when he came to a rushing river, he stepped onto a rock and it carried him across, like a boat. It appeared to support him because God was in that rock. God is in everything, from ants to rocks to elephants. Baba Siri Chand was Brahmgiani, one with the eternal light of God, one with that eternal Power of which all the scriptures have spoken. Even though he lived in the world, he remained beyond the world. As Guru Arjan Dev wrote, / " Brahmgiani sada nirlep,jaise jal me kamal alep /- A Brahmgiani is always unattached, as a lotus flower is detached from the mud. " [14] Baba Siri Chand is here eternally. Look inside yourself and you will see Brahm. May Baba Siri Chand forgive us and bless us with his merciful gaze so that we may meditate and practice his teachings. -from http://www.sahej.com/Baba_Siri_Chand.html Julie Garner wrote: > Sat Nam Dharam > > I saw this on a website. Have you used it? Do you have any advice/information.... > > It has evoked a reaction in me, I'm not sure why but I feel I need to understand it more! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 EK ONG KAR, SAT NAM, KARTA PURKH, NIRBHAO, NIRVAIR, AKAL MOORT, AJUNI, SAI BHANG, GUR PRASAD, JAP, AD SUCH, JUGAD SUCH, HABHE SUCH, NANAK HOSI BHEE SUCH Thank you all for sharing your wisdom! I am an eternal student dedicated to becoming a teacher & being the very best I can be! :-) At times confusion arises, has something come to my attention because I need it or do i just need to be aware of it? I know with a certainty that there are no accidents in this wonderful life! I always look into my heart & ask for the greater good for all. This mantra came to my attention, I felt its power, my mind had questions but my heart did not feel total harmony. I prayed for an answer... Thank you for answering my prayers and providing me with clarity, I understand why my heart cautioned me. I guess this is all part of my journey... I send my love & prayers to all who have read my message. I feel incredibly blessed to be able to call on help & advice from all in this wonderful community and to be provided with such a wealth of knowledge & understanding & compassion! Wahe guru! Julie x ________________________________ d h a r a m <pranahsaurus Kundaliniyoga Monday, 21 September, 2009 5:07:46 Re: Kundalini Yoga Mantra.... for protection Baba Siri Chand is always with us When we share with you the food that we produced with our own hands, our own labor, you will all receive Baba Siri Chand's love. You may not be able to sense it in your body, but perhaps you will feel it in your soul. Baba Siri Chand's love always fills everyone who comes to him.. He is the fountain of kindness. Baba Siri Chand looked on everyone with the same love, the same blessings. He taught them to overlook people's caste, religion, and personality and always recognize the Omnipresent God in every person, as also in animals, in trees, in the earth. He never proclaimed any separate religion or separate principles. Rather, he stressed universal love of the One God Who pervades all of Creation, Whom we call by different names, worship in different ways, and meditate upon by different methods. Baba Siri Chand is with us today, as are Hazrat Mohammad, Jesus, Guru Nanak Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and the other messengers of God. We cannot see them because we have closed our internal eyes and just look with our external eyes. Baba Siri Chand was beyond the thrall of birth and death. He proved what Guru Nanak said: " /Gurmukh avai jae nisang /-The one whose whole life is turned toward God can come and go as he pleases. " [13] At the age of 149 when Baba Siri Chand was sitting giving a discourse, he got up and said, " I am leaving now. " Where did he go? Wherever he wanted. He walked away dressed just as he was, in his sandals. It is said that when he came to a rushing river, he stepped onto a rock and it carried him across, like a boat. It appeared to support him because God was in that rock. God is in everything, from ants to rocks to elephants. Baba Siri Chand was Brahmgiani, one with the eternal light of God, one with that eternal Power of which all the scriptures have spoken. Even though he lived in the world, he remained beyond the world. As Guru Arjan Dev wrote, / " Brahmgiani sada nirlep,jaise jal me kamal alep /- A Brahmgiani is always unattached, as a lotus flower is detached from the mud. " [14] Baba Siri Chand is here eternally. Look inside yourself and you will see Brahm. May Baba Siri Chand forgive us and bless us with his merciful gaze so that we may meditate and practice his teachings. -from http://www.sahej. com/Baba_ Siri_Chand. html Julie Garner wrote: > Sat Nam Dharam > > I saw this on a website. Have you used it? Do you have any advice/information. .... > > It has evoked a reaction in me, I'm not sure why but I feel I need to understand it more! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2009 Report Share Posted September 21, 2009 Beautiful and insightful as always Dharam. I should get a picture of Baba Siri Chand for my studio. Any suggestions where I can get a poster? also, I have a question that you might have some thoughts on. I find myself completely drawn to Ardas Bhaee in andy shape or form. I wonder what that means. Sat NamDeva Kaur --- On Mon, 9/21/09, d h a r a m <pranahsaurus wrote: d h a r a m <pranahsaurus Re: Kundalini Yoga Mantra.... for protection Kundaliniyoga Monday, September 21, 2009, 12:07 AM Baba Siri Chand is always with us When we share with you the food that we produced with our own hands, our own labor, you will all receive Baba Siri Chand's love. You may not be able to sense it in your body, but perhaps you will feel it in your soul. Baba Siri Chand's love always fills everyone who comes to him. He is the fountain of kindness. Baba Siri Chand looked on everyone with the same love, the same blessings. He taught them to overlook people's caste, religion, and personality and always recognize the Omnipresent God in every person, as also in animals, in trees, in the earth. He never proclaimed any separate religion or separate principles. Rather, he stressed universal love of the One God Who pervades all of Creation, Whom we call by different names, worship in different ways, and meditate upon by different methods. Baba Siri Chand is with us today, as are Hazrat Mohammad, Jesus, Guru Nanak Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and the other messengers of God. We cannot see them because we have closed our internal eyes and just look with our external eyes. Baba Siri Chand was beyond the thrall of birth and death. He proved what Guru Nanak said: " /Gurmukh avai jae nisang /-The one whose whole life is turned toward God can come and go as he pleases. " [13] At the age of 149 when Baba Siri Chand was sitting giving a discourse, he got up and said, " I am leaving now. " Where did he go? Wherever he wanted. He walked away dressed just as he was, in his sandals. It is said that when he came to a rushing river, he stepped onto a rock and it carried him across, like a boat. It appeared to support him because God was in that rock. God is in everything, from ants to rocks to elephants. Baba Siri Chand was Brahmgiani, one with the eternal light of God, one with that eternal Power of which all the scriptures have spoken. Even though he lived in the world, he remained beyond the world. As Guru Arjan Dev wrote, / " Brahmgiani sada nirlep,jaise jal me kamal alep /- A Brahmgiani is always unattached, as a lotus flower is detached from the mud. " [14] Baba Siri Chand is here eternally. Look inside yourself and you will see Brahm. May Baba Siri Chand forgive us and bless us with his merciful gaze so that we may meditate and practice his teachings. -from http://www.sahej. com/Baba_ Siri_Chand. html Julie Garner wrote: > Sat Nam Dharam > > I saw this on a website. Have you used it? Do you have any advice/information. .... > > It has evoked a reaction in me, I'm not sure why but I feel I need to understand it more! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Satnam, i have really enjoyed reading yours and Adi Singhs responses to this, however this has prompted me to seek some advice on a conversation i had with a friend yeaterday about death and attachment. I said that sometimes life is hard and i see it as serving time and that i was not affraid or too concerned if life ended tomorrow, the response i got was that i was being flipant and that was a cold thing to say as my view would not be so when you think about losing someone close and the lose felt be loved ones left behind. My response was that of course one feels empathy for the family and mourns the passing, as i have lost dear ones, but life does goes on and its was their path in terms of the relationships that person had with those they touched was complete and it was time for them to move on (well that what i was taught as a practicing sikh and believe). Was my comment flipant and are my views on death skewed? ________________________________ d h a r a m <pranahsaurus Kundaliniyoga Monday, September 21, 2009 5:07:46 AM Re: Kundalini Yoga Mantra.... for protection Baba Siri Chand is always with us When we share with you the food that we produced with our own hands, our own labor, you will all receive Baba Siri Chand's love. You may not be able to sense it in your body, but perhaps you will feel it in your soul. Baba Siri Chand's love always fills everyone who comes to him. He is the fountain of kindness. Baba Siri Chand looked on everyone with the same love, the same blessings. He taught them to overlook people's caste, religion, and personality and always recognize the Omnipresent God in every person, as also in animals, in trees, in the earth. He never proclaimed any separate religion or separate principles. Rather, he stressed universal love of the One God Who pervades all of Creation, Whom we call by different names, worship in different ways, and meditate upon by different methods. Baba Siri Chand is with us today, as are Hazrat Mohammad, Jesus, Guru Nanak Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and the other messengers of God. We cannot see them because we have closed our internal eyes and just look with our external eyes. Baba Siri Chand was beyond the thrall of birth and death. He proved what Guru Nanak said: " /Gurmukh avai jae nisang /-The one whose whole life is turned toward God can come and go as he pleases. " [13] At the age of 149 when Baba Siri Chand was sitting giving a discourse, he got up and said, " I am leaving now. " Where did he go? Wherever he wanted. He walked away dressed just as he was, in his sandals. It is said that when he came to a rushing river, he stepped onto a rock and it carried him across, like a boat. It appeared to support him because God was in that rock. God is in everything, from ants to rocks to elephants. Baba Siri Chand was Brahmgiani, one with the eternal light of God, one with that eternal Power of which all the scriptures have spoken. Even though he lived in the world, he remained beyond the world. As Guru Arjan Dev wrote, / " Brahmgiani sada nirlep,jaise jal me kamal alep /- A Brahmgiani is always unattached, as a lotus flower is detached from the mud. " [14] Baba Siri Chand is here eternally. Look inside yourself and you will see Brahm. May Baba Siri Chand forgive us and bless us with his merciful gaze so that we may meditate and practice his teachings. -from http://www.sahej. com/Baba_ Siri_Chand. html Julie Garner wrote: > Sat Nam Dharam > > I saw this on a website. Have you used it? Do you have any advice/information. .... > > It has evoked a reaction in me, I'm not sure why but I feel I need to understand it more! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Sat Nam, You did not come across as flippant to me. I think that you have an understanding of life that others may not have, thus to them may come across as smarmy or self satisfied. I too believe as you do. Maybe their view is skewed? One of the beautiful things about life is that we each have different ways and beliefs. This is our gift that may be shared, and if others want to learn about us, then even the better. Best, Karamleen Kaur Lynnette On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:26 AM, jin mann <jin_mann wrote: > > > Satnam, i have really enjoyed reading yours and Adi Singhs responses to > this, however this has prompted me to seek some advice on a conversation i > had with a friend yeaterday about death and attachment. I said that > sometimes life is hard and i see it as serving time and that i was not > affraid or too concerned if life ended tomorrow, the response i got was that > i was being flipant and that was a cold thing to say as my view would not be > so when you think about losing someone close and the lose felt be loved ones > left behind. My response was that of course one feels empathy for the > family and mourns the passing, as i have lost dear ones, but life does goes > on and its was their path in terms of the relationships that person had with > those they touched was complete and it was time for them to move on (well > that what i was taught as a practicing sikh and believe). Was my comment > flipant and are my views on death skewed? > > ________________________________ > > d h a r a m <pranahsaurus <pranahsaurus%40>> > Kundaliniyoga <Kundaliniyoga%40> > Monday, September 21, 2009 5:07:46 AM > Re: Kundalini Yoga Mantra.... for protection > > > > Baba Siri Chand is always with us > > When we share with you the food that we produced with our own hands, our > own labor, you will all receive Baba Siri Chand's love. You may not be > able to sense it in your body, but perhaps you will feel it in your > soul. Baba Siri Chand's love always fills everyone who comes to him. He > is the fountain of kindness. > > Baba Siri Chand looked on everyone with the same love, the same > blessings. He taught them to overlook people's caste, religion, and > personality and always recognize the Omnipresent God in every person, as > also in animals, in trees, in the earth. He never proclaimed any > separate religion or separate principles. Rather, he stressed universal > love of the One God Who pervades all of Creation, Whom we call by > different names, worship in different ways, and meditate upon by > different methods. > > Baba Siri Chand is with us today, as are Hazrat Mohammad, Jesus, Guru > Nanak Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and the other messengers of God. We > cannot see them because we have closed our internal eyes and just look > with our external eyes. > > Baba Siri Chand was beyond the thrall of birth and death. He proved what > Guru Nanak said: " /Gurmukh avai jae nisang /-The one whose whole life is > turned toward God can come and go as he pleases. " [13] At the age of > 149 when Baba Siri Chand was sitting giving a discourse, he got up and > said, " I am leaving now. " Where did he go? Wherever he wanted. He walked > away dressed just as he was, in his sandals. It is said that when he > came to a rushing river, he stepped onto a rock and it carried him > across, like a boat. It appeared to support him because God was in that > rock. God is in everything, from ants to rocks to elephants. > > Baba Siri Chand was Brahmgiani, one with the eternal light of God, one > with that eternal Power of which all the scriptures have spoken. Even > though he lived in the world, he remained beyond the world. As Guru > Arjan Dev wrote, / " Brahmgiani sada nirlep,jaise jal me kamal alep /- A > Brahmgiani is always unattached, as a lotus flower is detached from the > mud. " [14] > > Baba Siri Chand is here eternally. Look inside yourself and you will see > Brahm. May Baba Siri Chand forgive us and bless us with his merciful > gaze so that we may meditate and practice his teachings. > > -from http://www.sahej. com/Baba_ Siri_Chand. html > > Julie Garner wrote: > > Sat Nam Dharam > > > > I saw this on a website. Have you used it? Do you have any > advice/information. ... > > > > It has evoked a reaction in me, I'm not sure why but I feel I need to > understand it more! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 I do not think you were flippant or that your views are skewed. Perhaps your friend is fearful or even judgmental. " Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that flow, life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar - jin mann Kundaliniyoga Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:26 AM Re: Kundalini Yoga Mantra.... for protection Satnam, i have really enjoyed reading yours and Adi Singhs responses to this, however this has prompted me to seek some advice on a conversation i had with a friend yeaterday about death and attachment. I said that sometimes life is hard and i see it as serving time and that i was not affraid or too concerned if life ended tomorrow, the response i got was that i was being flipant and that was a cold thing to say as my view would not be so when you think about losing someone close and the lose felt be loved ones left behind. My response was that of course one feels empathy for the family and mourns the passing, as i have lost dear ones, but life does goes on and its was their path in terms of the relationships that person had with those they touched was complete and it was time for them to move on (well that what i was taught as a practicing sikh and believe). Was my comment flipant and are my views on death skewed? ________________________________ d h a r a m <pranahsaurus Kundaliniyoga Monday, September 21, 2009 5:07:46 AM Re: Kundalini Yoga Mantra.... for protection Baba Siri Chand is always with us When we share with you the food that we produced with our own hands, our own labor, you will all receive Baba Siri Chand's love. You may not be able to sense it in your body, but perhaps you will feel it in your soul. Baba Siri Chand's love always fills everyone who comes to him. He is the fountain of kindness. Baba Siri Chand looked on everyone with the same love, the same blessings. He taught them to overlook people's caste, religion, and personality and always recognize the Omnipresent God in every person, as also in animals, in trees, in the earth. He never proclaimed any separate religion or separate principles. Rather, he stressed universal love of the One God Who pervades all of Creation, Whom we call by different names, worship in different ways, and meditate upon by different methods. Baba Siri Chand is with us today, as are Hazrat Mohammad, Jesus, Guru Nanak Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and the other messengers of God. We cannot see them because we have closed our internal eyes and just look with our external eyes. Baba Siri Chand was beyond the thrall of birth and death. He proved what Guru Nanak said: " /Gurmukh avai jae nisang /-The one whose whole life is turned toward God can come and go as he pleases. " [13] At the age of 149 when Baba Siri Chand was sitting giving a discourse, he got up and said, " I am leaving now. " Where did he go? Wherever he wanted. He walked away dressed just as he was, in his sandals. It is said that when he came to a rushing river, he stepped onto a rock and it carried him across, like a boat. It appeared to support him because God was in that rock. God is in everything, from ants to rocks to elephants. Baba Siri Chand was Brahmgiani, one with the eternal light of God, one with that eternal Power of which all the scriptures have spoken. Even though he lived in the world, he remained beyond the world. As Guru Arjan Dev wrote, / " Brahmgiani sada nirlep,jaise jal me kamal alep /- A Brahmgiani is always unattached, as a lotus flower is detached from the mud. " [14] Baba Siri Chand is here eternally. Look inside yourself and you will see Brahm. May Baba Siri Chand forgive us and bless us with his merciful gaze so that we may meditate and practice his teachings. -from http://www.sahej. com/Baba_ Siri_Chand. html Julie Garner wrote: > Sat Nam Dharam > > I saw this on a website. Have you used it? Do you have any advice/information. ... > > It has evoked a reaction in me, I'm not sure why but I feel I need to understand it more! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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