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Hi Cindy,

 

If you are becoming overstimulated, then simplify your environment.

Being outside is very good for me. I try to make time for

meditation. I prefer singing bowl music, which is excellent for

reducing overstimulation. I also avoid the usual suspects like TV/

movies and caffeine. Are you already vegetarian or vegan? There are

other nutritional considerations you might investigate as part of an

ayurvedic approach to food.

 

A short yoga routine might have elements like these -- this is just a

suggestion and should be validated by others far more knowledgeable on

the board -- maybe find a local source of KY classes. All of these

things have very specific definitions and have to be done correctly to

avoid injury.

 

- diaphragmatic breathing

- opening (prayer pose, ong namo guru dav namo x3)

- spinal flex

- breath of fire

- cat/cow with child's pose closure

- mountain pose

- balance pose (your choice, maybe eagle)

- kriya -- easy pose -- sat kriya first (chant sa ta na ma while

touching thumb with first-fourth fingers with each sound)

- closing (prayer pose, long time sunshine or silence, with final

exhaled satnam)

 

After awhile you will see different kriya here and you can start to

work with different energies in the body -- focus on chakras,

functional systems of the body (immune, etc). You'll also want to add

more/change elements because there are many positions in KY.

 

The first benefit of a siddhi is to yourself. It is always a gift.

Don't interfere or immerse yourself with it, since it a manifestation

of manas you have to let it come to your consciousness on its own

terms. These thoughts you mention may be part of what has to be

overcome.

 

Namaste

 

Jeff

On 2009-10-16, at 7:22 PM, Cindy Powers wrote:

 

> Hi Jeff,

> Thank you for your reply.

> I guess I'm searching for a way function at work. I don't consider

> myself to be healthy if I end up massively overstimulated. My

> original goal was always on enlightment. However, I definitely would

> want to keep the abilities and possibly use them to help me deal

> with others in a way that frees them from suffering. There seems to

> be no way to shut off a siddhi. The cat is out of the bag and I

> can't erase my new views of reality. If there is a way to safely be

> inherently omniscient then pretty much nothing like consciousness

> would be a mystery as there wouldn't be

> anything that I don't know...I can do this in a very limited sense

> right now. I need to find a way to come in and out of the state that

> causes the siddhi. Based on what I'm going through it doesn't feel

> like it's healthy for the mind to always be extracting info...some

> gland is over acting.

>

> I'm disillusioned...not exactly at a cross roads. The Zen idea of

> being free from suffering is that you need to stop wanting to be

> free from it. Samsara is Nirvana. Yay. I understand enlightenment

> from an intellectual point of view but don't feel like I'm free. I'm

> full of ego clinging and getting tangled up in thoughts no matter

> what I do.

>

> I've never seen any world class siddhi like

> telekinesis or flying but I won't rule it out.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Hi Jeff,

 

Simplifying is a no go. I'm in the city.

 

I've never tried singing bowls. Wouldn't the sound be just another stimulant?

 

I meditate almost daily and hardly watch movies, TV. I'm off of caffeine.

 

I've been vegatarian before but had to quit. My blood is O Negative. I was

getting sick. Also, I don't see why animals are placed as superior to plants.

They all feel pain, it's part of life, and measuring and comparing is duality

not transcedent.

 

I have the Kundalini books. It's similar to other stuff I've done with opening,

middle and endings exercises. (expect Zen where you just sit down and do

zazen...no frill...no dogma).

 

The I'd take freedom from suffering over the siddhi—but don't feel very free

right now. The siddhi has done more harm then good. Not even meds can overcome

and stop the voices (which I've had since childhood in different intensities but

got much worse, almost constant, after buddhist training).

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 10/20/09, Jeff Weaver <jweaver4 wrote:

 

Jeff Weaver <jweaver4

Kundalini Yoga Basic yoga for spiritual practice

Kundaliniyoga

Received: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 6:12 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Cindy,

 

 

 

If you are becoming overstimulated, then simplify your environment.

 

Being outside is very good for me. I try to make time for

 

meditation. I prefer singing bowl music, which is excellent for

 

reducing overstimulation. I also avoid the usual suspects like TV/

 

movies and caffeine. Are you already vegetarian or vegan? There are

 

other nutritional considerations you might investigate as part of an

 

ayurvedic approach to food.

 

 

 

A short yoga routine might have elements like these -- this is just a

 

suggestion and should be validated by others far more knowledgeable on

 

the board -- maybe find a local source of KY classes. All of these

 

things have very specific definitions and have to be done correctly to

 

avoid injury.

 

 

 

- diaphragmatic breathing

 

- opening (prayer pose, ong namo guru dav namo x3)

 

- spinal flex

 

- breath of fire

 

- cat/cow with child's pose closure

 

- mountain pose

 

- balance pose (your choice, maybe eagle)

 

- kriya -- easy pose -- sat kriya first (chant sa ta na ma while

 

touching thumb with first-fourth fingers with each sound)

 

- closing (prayer pose, long time sunshine or silence, with final

 

exhaled satnam)

 

 

 

After awhile you will see different kriya here and you can start to

 

work with different energies in the body -- focus on chakras,

 

functional systems of the body (immune, etc). You'll also want to add

 

more/change elements because there are many positions in KY.

 

 

 

The first benefit of a siddhi is to yourself. It is always a gift.

 

Don't interfere or immerse yourself with it, since it a manifestation

 

of manas you have to let it come to your consciousness on its own

 

terms. These thoughts you mention may be part of what has to be

 

overcome.

 

 

 

Namaste

 

 

 

Jeff

 

On 2009-10-16, at 7:22 PM, Cindy Powers wrote:

 

 

 

> Hi Jeff,

 

> Thank you for your reply.

 

> I guess I'm searching for a way function at work. I don't consider

 

> myself to be healthy if I end up massively overstimulated. My

 

> original goal was always on enlightment. However, I definitely would

 

> want to keep the abilities and possibly use them to help me deal

 

> with others in a way that frees them from suffering. There seems to

 

> be no way to shut off a siddhi. The cat is out of the bag and I

 

> can't erase my new views of reality. If there is a way to safely be

 

> inherently omniscient then pretty much nothing like consciousness

 

> would be a mystery as there wouldn't be

 

> anything that I don't know...I can do this in a very limited sense

 

> right now. I need to find a way to come in and out of the state that

 

> causes the siddhi. Based on what I'm going through it doesn't feel

 

> like it's healthy for the mind to always be extracting info...some

 

> gland is over acting.

 

>

 

> I'm disillusioned. ..not exactly at a cross roads. The Zen idea of

 

> being free from suffering is that you need to stop wanting to be

 

> free from it. Samsara is Nirvana. Yay. I understand enlightenment

 

> from an intellectual point of view but don't feel like I'm free. I'm

 

> full of ego clinging and getting tangled up in thoughts no matter

 

> what I do.

 

>

 

> I've never seen any world class siddhi like

 

> telekinesis or flying but I won't rule it out.

 

>

 

>

 

 

 

 

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Perhaps it is time to find a good teacher in one discipline and stay within the

one system. In the meantime from what you describe it might be advisable for

you to stop doing postures until you find a teacher you trust enough to follow

his/her program.

 

Sat Nam,

Linda

 

 

" Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that flow,

life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar

-

Cindy Powers

Kundaliniyoga

Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:18 PM

Re: Kundalini Yoga Basic yoga for spiritual practice

 

 

Hi Jeff,

 

Simplifying is a no go. I'm in the city.

 

I've never tried singing bowls. Wouldn't the sound be just another stimulant?

 

I meditate almost daily and hardly watch movies, TV. I'm off of caffeine.

 

I've been vegatarian before but had to quit. My blood is O Negative. I was

getting sick. Also, I don't see why animals are placed as superior to plants.

They all feel pain, it's part of life, and measuring and comparing is duality

not transcedent.

 

I have the Kundalini books. It's similar to other stuff I've done with

opening, middle and endings exercises. (expect Zen where you just sit down and

do zazen...no frill...no dogma).

 

The I'd take freedom from suffering over the siddhi—but don't feel very free

right now. The siddhi has done more harm then good. Not even meds can overcome

and stop the voices (which I've had since childhood in different intensities but

got much worse, almost constant, after buddhist training).

 

--- On Tue, 10/20/09, Jeff Weaver <jweaver4 wrote:

 

Jeff Weaver <jweaver4

Kundalini Yoga Basic yoga for spiritual practice

Kundaliniyoga

Received: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 6:12 PM

 

 

 

Hi Cindy,

 

If you are becoming overstimulated, then simplify your environment.

 

Being outside is very good for me. I try to make time for

 

meditation. I prefer singing bowl music, which is excellent for

 

reducing overstimulation. I also avoid the usual suspects like TV/

 

movies and caffeine. Are you already vegetarian or vegan? There are

 

other nutritional considerations you might investigate as part of an

 

ayurvedic approach to food.

 

A short yoga routine might have elements like these -- this is just a

 

suggestion and should be validated by others far more knowledgeable on

 

the board -- maybe find a local source of KY classes. All of these

 

things have very specific definitions and have to be done correctly to

 

avoid injury.

 

- diaphragmatic breathing

 

- opening (prayer pose, ong namo guru dav namo x3)

 

- spinal flex

 

- breath of fire

 

- cat/cow with child's pose closure

 

- mountain pose

 

- balance pose (your choice, maybe eagle)

 

- kriya -- easy pose -- sat kriya first (chant sa ta na ma while

 

touching thumb with first-fourth fingers with each sound)

 

- closing (prayer pose, long time sunshine or silence, with final

 

exhaled satnam)

 

After awhile you will see different kriya here and you can start to

 

work with different energies in the body -- focus on chakras,

 

functional systems of the body (immune, etc). You'll also want to add

 

more/change elements because there are many positions in KY.

 

The first benefit of a siddhi is to yourself. It is always a gift.

 

Don't interfere or immerse yourself with it, since it a manifestation

 

of manas you have to let it come to your consciousness on its own

 

terms. These thoughts you mention may be part of what has to be

 

overcome.

 

Namaste

 

Jeff

 

On 2009-10-16, at 7:22 PM, Cindy Powers wrote:

 

> Hi Jeff,

 

> Thank you for your reply.

 

> I guess I'm searching for a way function at work. I don't consider

 

> myself to be healthy if I end up massively overstimulated. My

 

> original goal was always on enlightment. However, I definitely would

 

> want to keep the abilities and possibly use them to help me deal

 

> with others in a way that frees them from suffering. There seems to

 

> be no way to shut off a siddhi. The cat is out of the bag and I

 

> can't erase my new views of reality. If there is a way to safely be

 

> inherently omniscient then pretty much nothing like consciousness

 

> would be a mystery as there wouldn't be

 

> anything that I don't know...I can do this in a very limited sense

 

> right now. I need to find a way to come in and out of the state that

 

> causes the siddhi. Based on what I'm going through it doesn't feel

 

> like it's healthy for the mind to always be extracting info...some

 

> gland is over acting.

 

>

 

> I'm disillusioned. ..not exactly at a cross roads. The Zen idea of

 

> being free from suffering is that you need to stop wanting to be

 

> free from it. Samsara is Nirvana. Yay. I understand enlightenment

 

> from an intellectual point of view but don't feel like I'm free. I'm

 

> full of ego clinging and getting tangled up in thoughts no matter

 

> what I do.

 

>

 

> I've never seen any world class siddhi like

 

> telekinesis or flying but I won't rule it out.

 

>

 

>

 

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