Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Hi Cindy, If you are becoming overstimulated, then simplify your environment. Being outside is very good for me. I try to make time for meditation. I prefer singing bowl music, which is excellent for reducing overstimulation. I also avoid the usual suspects like TV/ movies and caffeine. Are you already vegetarian or vegan? There are other nutritional considerations you might investigate as part of an ayurvedic approach to food. A short yoga routine might have elements like these -- this is just a suggestion and should be validated by others far more knowledgeable on the board -- maybe find a local source of KY classes. All of these things have very specific definitions and have to be done correctly to avoid injury. - diaphragmatic breathing - opening (prayer pose, ong namo guru dav namo x3) - spinal flex - breath of fire - cat/cow with child's pose closure - mountain pose - balance pose (your choice, maybe eagle) - kriya -- easy pose -- sat kriya first (chant sa ta na ma while touching thumb with first-fourth fingers with each sound) - closing (prayer pose, long time sunshine or silence, with final exhaled satnam) After awhile you will see different kriya here and you can start to work with different energies in the body -- focus on chakras, functional systems of the body (immune, etc). You'll also want to add more/change elements because there are many positions in KY. The first benefit of a siddhi is to yourself. It is always a gift. Don't interfere or immerse yourself with it, since it a manifestation of manas you have to let it come to your consciousness on its own terms. These thoughts you mention may be part of what has to be overcome. Namaste Jeff On 2009-10-16, at 7:22 PM, Cindy Powers wrote: > Hi Jeff, > Thank you for your reply. > I guess I'm searching for a way function at work. I don't consider > myself to be healthy if I end up massively overstimulated. My > original goal was always on enlightment. However, I definitely would > want to keep the abilities and possibly use them to help me deal > with others in a way that frees them from suffering. There seems to > be no way to shut off a siddhi. The cat is out of the bag and I > can't erase my new views of reality. If there is a way to safely be > inherently omniscient then pretty much nothing like consciousness > would be a mystery as there wouldn't be > anything that I don't know...I can do this in a very limited sense > right now. I need to find a way to come in and out of the state that > causes the siddhi. Based on what I'm going through it doesn't feel > like it's healthy for the mind to always be extracting info...some > gland is over acting. > > I'm disillusioned...not exactly at a cross roads. The Zen idea of > being free from suffering is that you need to stop wanting to be > free from it. Samsara is Nirvana. Yay. I understand enlightenment > from an intellectual point of view but don't feel like I'm free. I'm > full of ego clinging and getting tangled up in thoughts no matter > what I do. > > I've never seen any world class siddhi like > telekinesis or flying but I won't rule it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi Jeff, Simplifying is a no go. I'm in the city. I've never tried singing bowls. Wouldn't the sound be just another stimulant? I meditate almost daily and hardly watch movies, TV. I'm off of caffeine. I've been vegatarian before but had to quit. My blood is O Negative. I was getting sick. Also, I don't see why animals are placed as superior to plants. They all feel pain, it's part of life, and measuring and comparing is duality not transcedent. I have the Kundalini books. It's similar to other stuff I've done with opening, middle and endings exercises. (expect Zen where you just sit down and do zazen...no frill...no dogma). The I'd take freedom from suffering over the siddhi—but don't feel very free right now. The siddhi has done more harm then good. Not even meds can overcome and stop the voices (which I've had since childhood in different intensities but got much worse, almost constant, after buddhist training). --- On Tue, 10/20/09, Jeff Weaver <jweaver4 wrote: Jeff Weaver <jweaver4 Kundalini Yoga Basic yoga for spiritual practice Kundaliniyoga Received: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 6:12 PM  Hi Cindy, If you are becoming overstimulated, then simplify your environment. Being outside is very good for me. I try to make time for meditation. I prefer singing bowl music, which is excellent for reducing overstimulation. I also avoid the usual suspects like TV/ movies and caffeine. Are you already vegetarian or vegan? There are other nutritional considerations you might investigate as part of an ayurvedic approach to food. A short yoga routine might have elements like these -- this is just a suggestion and should be validated by others far more knowledgeable on the board -- maybe find a local source of KY classes. All of these things have very specific definitions and have to be done correctly to avoid injury. - diaphragmatic breathing - opening (prayer pose, ong namo guru dav namo x3) - spinal flex - breath of fire - cat/cow with child's pose closure - mountain pose - balance pose (your choice, maybe eagle) - kriya -- easy pose -- sat kriya first (chant sa ta na ma while touching thumb with first-fourth fingers with each sound) - closing (prayer pose, long time sunshine or silence, with final exhaled satnam) After awhile you will see different kriya here and you can start to work with different energies in the body -- focus on chakras, functional systems of the body (immune, etc). You'll also want to add more/change elements because there are many positions in KY. The first benefit of a siddhi is to yourself. It is always a gift. Don't interfere or immerse yourself with it, since it a manifestation of manas you have to let it come to your consciousness on its own terms. These thoughts you mention may be part of what has to be overcome. Namaste Jeff On 2009-10-16, at 7:22 PM, Cindy Powers wrote: > Hi Jeff, > Thank you for your reply. > I guess I'm searching for a way function at work. I don't consider > myself to be healthy if I end up massively overstimulated. My > original goal was always on enlightment. However, I definitely would > want to keep the abilities and possibly use them to help me deal > with others in a way that frees them from suffering. There seems to > be no way to shut off a siddhi. The cat is out of the bag and I > can't erase my new views of reality. If there is a way to safely be > inherently omniscient then pretty much nothing like consciousness > would be a mystery as there wouldn't be > anything that I don't know...I can do this in a very limited sense > right now. I need to find a way to come in and out of the state that > causes the siddhi. Based on what I'm going through it doesn't feel > like it's healthy for the mind to always be extracting info...some > gland is over acting. > > I'm disillusioned. ..not exactly at a cross roads. The Zen idea of > being free from suffering is that you need to stop wanting to be > free from it. Samsara is Nirvana. Yay. I understand enlightenment > from an intellectual point of view but don't feel like I'm free. I'm > full of ego clinging and getting tangled up in thoughts no matter > what I do. > > I've never seen any world class siddhi like > telekinesis or flying but I won't rule it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Perhaps it is time to find a good teacher in one discipline and stay within the one system. In the meantime from what you describe it might be advisable for you to stop doing postures until you find a teacher you trust enough to follow his/her program. Sat Nam, Linda " Life and living is a flow, and if we accept that flow and get into that flow, life can be tremendously simple. " Ramesh S. Balsehar - Cindy Powers Kundaliniyoga Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:18 PM Re: Kundalini Yoga Basic yoga for spiritual practice Hi Jeff, Simplifying is a no go. I'm in the city. I've never tried singing bowls. Wouldn't the sound be just another stimulant? I meditate almost daily and hardly watch movies, TV. I'm off of caffeine. I've been vegatarian before but had to quit. My blood is O Negative. I was getting sick. Also, I don't see why animals are placed as superior to plants. They all feel pain, it's part of life, and measuring and comparing is duality not transcedent. I have the Kundalini books. It's similar to other stuff I've done with opening, middle and endings exercises. (expect Zen where you just sit down and do zazen...no frill...no dogma). The I'd take freedom from suffering over the siddhi—but don't feel very free right now. The siddhi has done more harm then good. Not even meds can overcome and stop the voices (which I've had since childhood in different intensities but got much worse, almost constant, after buddhist training). --- On Tue, 10/20/09, Jeff Weaver <jweaver4 wrote: Jeff Weaver <jweaver4 Kundalini Yoga Basic yoga for spiritual practice Kundaliniyoga Received: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 6:12 PM Hi Cindy, If you are becoming overstimulated, then simplify your environment. Being outside is very good for me. I try to make time for meditation. I prefer singing bowl music, which is excellent for reducing overstimulation. I also avoid the usual suspects like TV/ movies and caffeine. Are you already vegetarian or vegan? There are other nutritional considerations you might investigate as part of an ayurvedic approach to food. A short yoga routine might have elements like these -- this is just a suggestion and should be validated by others far more knowledgeable on the board -- maybe find a local source of KY classes. All of these things have very specific definitions and have to be done correctly to avoid injury. - diaphragmatic breathing - opening (prayer pose, ong namo guru dav namo x3) - spinal flex - breath of fire - cat/cow with child's pose closure - mountain pose - balance pose (your choice, maybe eagle) - kriya -- easy pose -- sat kriya first (chant sa ta na ma while touching thumb with first-fourth fingers with each sound) - closing (prayer pose, long time sunshine or silence, with final exhaled satnam) After awhile you will see different kriya here and you can start to work with different energies in the body -- focus on chakras, functional systems of the body (immune, etc). You'll also want to add more/change elements because there are many positions in KY. The first benefit of a siddhi is to yourself. It is always a gift. Don't interfere or immerse yourself with it, since it a manifestation of manas you have to let it come to your consciousness on its own terms. These thoughts you mention may be part of what has to be overcome. Namaste Jeff On 2009-10-16, at 7:22 PM, Cindy Powers wrote: > Hi Jeff, > Thank you for your reply. > I guess I'm searching for a way function at work. I don't consider > myself to be healthy if I end up massively overstimulated. My > original goal was always on enlightment. However, I definitely would > want to keep the abilities and possibly use them to help me deal > with others in a way that frees them from suffering. There seems to > be no way to shut off a siddhi. The cat is out of the bag and I > can't erase my new views of reality. If there is a way to safely be > inherently omniscient then pretty much nothing like consciousness > would be a mystery as there wouldn't be > anything that I don't know...I can do this in a very limited sense > right now. I need to find a way to come in and out of the state that > causes the siddhi. Based on what I'm going through it doesn't feel > like it's healthy for the mind to always be extracting info...some > gland is over acting. > > I'm disillusioned. ..not exactly at a cross roads. The Zen idea of > being free from suffering is that you need to stop wanting to be > free from it. Samsara is Nirvana. Yay. I understand enlightenment > from an intellectual point of view but don't feel like I'm free. I'm > full of ego clinging and getting tangled up in thoughts no matter > what I do. > > I've never seen any world class siddhi like > telekinesis or flying but I won't rule it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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