What is the most powerful, effective, life changing mantra a person can do?

[Guest guest]

What is the most powerful & effective chant that a person can do, the

most life changing? (its probably a subjective question and answer,

but maybe not)

 

And who among you all have chanted 'what' and changed? When did you

start -35 years ago, now? And for how long, did you chant?

 

Assuming that you practice self-observation and assuming that you

wrote your experience down?

 

Would you please share it with us, those that come after you. You are

the pioneer, Pioneers open the way for others, we who follow?

 

It would be, at least for me, extremely helpful and affirming of this

Kundalini Yoga Path and Practice to hear your experiences. To learn

what you have gained in your life, from who you were when you started

to who you may be now becoming.

 

As it, now seems, to me, Yogi Bhjan is the only one that reached a

higher state of mind. I hope not. I really hope there are others in

this group who have reached a higher state of mind.

 

I am asking because I am trying to decided what to chant? What would

be the most life changing, powerful chant that I could do?

 

Taken from the book " The Mind and Its Projections and Multiple facets "

by Yogi Bhajan.

 

Should it be PAVAN, PAVAN as described on page 150 from book or

perhaps, the Mul or Mool Mantra, pg 191?

 

In the Aquarian Teacher, KRI Textbook Level one,

 

page 81 says the Mul Mantra is the highest of all mantras and it

contains in it the root of sound that is the basis for all effective

mantras.

 

p 82 Ardas Bhaee, p 152 mantras for the Aquarian Age and so on and so

forth.

 

Or perhaps, EK ONG KAR SAT NAAM SIRI WAHE GURU

This mantra is effective and is the mantra for this time- Yogi Bhajan.

Do it 2 1/2 hrs for 40 days. p 215

 

I am not a beginner at mediating, I have been practicing since 1954,

off and on. Its time for me to get serious. I would like the last 20

or 30 years of my life to be different, so please suggest some mantras

or one mantra, I really, really want to know what you think?

 

Thank you,

 

Sat Avtar Kaur

[Guest guest]

response to Sat Avtar Kaur's query about the most powerful

mantra published in Kundalini-Yoga , April 13:>

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> " What is the most powerful & effective chant that a person can do, the

> most life changing? (its probably a subjective question and answer,

> but maybe not) "

 

A few thoughts came to me during sadhana this morning. I'll share in

case any are of use in this instance.

 

First, the fact that you seek a " life-changing " mantra indicates some

dissatisfaction with - as you phrase it - the life pattern during the

preceding years. These are very personal " things " and I'm not

presuming to diagnose.

 

I will say this: it's usually helpful to see, and then having seen,

understand, our own patterns. Those can be plumbed on many levels:

the psychological, i.e., were you in a family which abused drugs or

alcohol; what was your role in your family (whether substance abuse

applied or not); how do you see yourself now? Are you used to being

the scapegoat, the victim, the hero or what? Understand the

exogeneous (sp?) dynamics that may still affect you, or may have

affected your early life - or say, the first half of your life.

 

Next, it occurs to me - only occurs, and I submit it only - that

sadhana is not a process similar to ordering results at a fast food

restaurant. I wish it were, often. Personally. I still think of

Kundalini Yoga - and fell in love with it - because kriyas and

meditations were for specific purposes.

 

But, looking back over 37 years past, I see where at certain stages --

many stages -- I couldn't have handled more. My determination blinded

me to my own shortcomings. Not that one is to take " blame " for those

shortcomings. No - be gentle and forgiving and most of all,

compassionate with yourself. We have fears, weaknesses, stores of

anger that usually we are unaware of. There's a protective mechanism

in the human being that blinds us to what we're not ready to absorb and

overcome - or else we would have difficulty surviving. We may already

have difficulty functioning in those cases.

 

I would again suggesting only - but you asked for personal experience

as to what worked - look at what in your life you may not yet have

accomplished that you always wanted to accomplish. Maybe nothing.

Maybe something. What, if anything, do you feel deprived of? Can you

fulfill that? It may help anyone feel actualized, as Maslow phrased

it.

 

Personally, I enjoyed the chance to get my B.A., and then my MBA. I've

always loved studying - which serves me well in yoga and spiritual

life - but I've enjoyed structured or formal study also. My analytical

mind told me I " should " get an MA in psychology or social work, but the

life path led me to an MBA - and I've never enjoyed anything more.

 

I'm well - oh how well - over 21 - and I'm getting job offers galore.

My resume draws interest on the internet - from California, locally

here in Texas, and so on. However, I still credit that to the Gurus

and my simple, earnest, soul-deep plea, " Well, help me then. " Am

I " right " to credit it to Gurus? Certainly more right than to credit

it to myself or the draw of a graduate degree, I would say. Just as an

aside.

 

Someone else may have found fulfillment and soul identity in giving up

academic study. There is no one prescription. But I'd look first if

you are dissatisfied, at your personal and family patterns, even get an

astrological chart done by a really qualified astrologist.

 

That's it. Time for breakfast. All best,

 

Love and Blessings,

 

Ananda

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Sat Avtar Kaur,

Try using Tantric Numerology to pick a meditation or routine.

 

Go to

http://www.3ho.org/clients/3HO/numerology.nsf/WebEntry?OpenForm

to get a FREE reading.

Yogi Bhajan used Tantric Numerology as a tool when giving many of us

our names and, to some extent, in prescribing a meditation or specific

discipline. He was a Maha Master, of course, and so it was only part of

how he worked.

He saw us as Infinite and not limited. Whatever he gave or prescribed

served in our individual process of seeing and realizing that same

Infinity.

 

Tratakam Meditation (aka Guru Yoga) is always a powerful "wildcard".

A lot of "work" can be done a pretty short order, and you'll KNOW what

is the appropriate next step from that experience.

I've always loved the idea that a "desperate man/woman prays better

than any Saint".

What you get will proportional to your need.

 

Blessings,

Dharam Singh

Milllis, MA

[Guest guest]

Thanks Anne, really,

 

However, been there - done that. I had training and self-observation

and self-analysis and astrological charts done and done again all in

the 1970s, and some charts beyond there. I have worked on myself, my

memories and my family 'stuff' for years, I am finished with it for

the most part. Anything that comes up now, I take care of using the

EFT method.

 

I guess I did not express myself clearly when I asked my questions. My

self-analysis has lead me to Kundalini Yoga. A good place to be. This

forum is a good place to be and be on. I am getting answers to

questions I have not placed here and that is good. I am getting good

results from people regarding what mantras to possibly start with.

 

I thank everyone for their imput. I am not sure that I remember what I

was thinking before I asked my questions.

 

We all are presumbly headed for 'enlightment' or a 'higher state of

mind' so is there a 'fast track' mantra? I know, I know they are all

powerful- its subjective and what would be good for me would not

necessarily be good for someone else-etc, etc, etc.

 

Maybe all I really want to know is what did you do, what mantra or

mantras really stand out. On the other hand it probablly is an

impossible question to answer or even ask.

 

The best respose (I have received) is to pick a mantra, try it for 40

days and see how I feel, then decide what to do. And, I have received

some wonderful insights on mantras.

 

If I put Eckhart Tolle's 'The Power of Now'-- living in the Now, not

putting energy into the past, and Wayne Dyer's 'The Power of

Intention'-- intending results and keeping ones inner thoughts and

outer words in a high positive level-no negative stuff (which means

listening to ones-self) and throw in the book 'What the Bleep do we

Know?' (quantum thought) together with a powerful mantra - if everyone

could agree on one or two or three mantras, then it could be an

interesting experiment - er experience. By the way, I have been

experiencing the ups and downs of Kundalini energy since 1985 and

right now it is riding me hard, just thought I'd throw that in.

 

Sorry, Anne, I seem to have done a group answer here, not just in

response to you.

 

I really do thank you Anne and others for the input. Its great to be

around like minded people and have a place to express oneself.

 

Sat Nam

Sat Avtar Kaur

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dharam Singh,

 

What a great idea, I will do it. I do not know what Tratakam

Meditation (aka Guru Yoga) is or where to find it. I have found that I

can 'google' anything and usualy come up with an answer.

 

Sat Nam,

Sat Avtar

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , D h a r a m <pran.108 wrote:

>

> Sat Avtar Kaur,

> Try using Tantric Numerology to pick a meditation or routine.

>

> Go to http://www.3ho.org/clients/3HO/numerology.nsf/WebEntry?OpenForm

> to get a FREE reading.

> Yogi Bhajan used Tantric Numerology as a tool when giving many of us

our

> names and, to some extent, in prescribing a meditation or specific

> discipline. He was a Maha Master, of course, and so it was only part of

> how he worked.

> He saw us as Infinite and not limited. Whatever he gave or prescribed

> served in our individual process of seeing and realizing that same

Infinity.

>

> Tratakam Meditation (aka Guru Yoga) is always a powerful " wildcard " .

> A lot of " work " can be done a pretty short order, and you'll KNOW what

> is the appropriate next step from that experience.

> I've always loved the idea that a " desperate man/woman prays better

than

> any Saint " .

> What you get will proportional to your need.

>

> Blessings,

> Dharam Singh

> Milllis, MA

>

[Guest guest]

Good and complete info at http://ahw.stores..net/17058.html

The book that comes with the picture will set you up completely. There

is a mudra I used that is somewhere in the KRI Training Manual. I'll

dig it out if you want. I also used Singh Kaur's "Guru Ram Das" from

her Crimson Series. It is perfect!

All of my efforts in this practice were done in the Amrit Vela,

sometimes even at 2:30am. but usually at 5am, or so.

I don't want to color your personal experience with a description of

what I went through but I'll say, to me, it was more intimate than any

therapy or even a personal audience with Yogiji himself!

Be completely with your deepest longing or pain, and give it over

through your gaze.

One other thing, time really flew when I did this. It didn't feel like

work.

I'll stop there.

Sat Nam,

Dharam

Millis, MA

 

 

Sat Avtar Kaur wrote:

 

Thank you Dharam Singh,

What a great idea, I will do it. I do not know what Tratakam

Meditation (aka Guru Yoga) is or where to find it. I have found that I

can 'google' anything and usualy come up with an answer.

Sat Nam,

Sat Avtar

Kundalini-Yoga , D h a r a m <pran.108 wrote:

 

 

Sat Avtar Kaur,

Try using Tantric Numerology to pick a meditation or routine.

Go to http://www.3ho.org/clients/3HO/numerology.nsf/WebEntry?OpenForm

to get a FREE reading.

Yogi Bhajan used Tantric Numerology as a tool when giving many of us

 

 

our

 

names and, to some extent, in prescribing a meditation or specific discipline. He was a Maha Master, of course, and so it was only part of how he worked.

He saw us as Infinite and not limited. Whatever he gave or prescribed served in our individual process of seeing and realizing that same

 

 

Infinity.

 

 

Tratakam Meditation (aka Guru Yoga) is always a powerful "wildcard".

A lot of "work" can be done a pretty short order, and you'll KNOW what is the appropriate next step from that experience.

I've always loved the idea that a "desperate man/woman prays better

 

 

than

 

any Saint".

What you get will proportional to your need.

Blessings,

Dharam Singh

Milllis, MA