kriyas and other styles - Dharam

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Dharam,

I should add that as the spine is infused with

Kundalini the body will go into automatic poses. Some of these poses

can begin to pulse as the individual is literally forced to assume

them. Many of these automatic asanas are what Kundalini Yoga is

comprised of, hence the name of this style of Yoga. These are my

obsevations based upon 17 years of experience and research into the

subject. They are mirrored by others who have also awakened the

Kundalini by many different means. Kundalini Yoga is very important as

it can give a person a fore shadowing of what can be coming. -

 

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Chrism,

One needs to define Kundalini and make sure not to confuse it with

Prana (or Chi). Kundalini has been called the "pressure of the Soul",

"the yoga of transmission", and it literally means "coil in/of the hair of the

beloved". You're in a place that more than a few people have

delved. It's timeless and precious and very personal and thusly

difficult to fully relate to others. I, myself, in my personal practice

pretty much do things by the book, and I say pretty much because on *at

least* one occasion, in my personal practice and during the warm ups, I

might add, I found myself wanting to move in a way that was "off the

map" and I actually felt a very subtle acknowledgement, in that moment,

through the ethers from the Master himself, Yogi Bhajan. It was one of

those very special moments. It was private. These experiences will happen on

their own and, I believe, should not be sought after. Of course, if you

do be prepared to call it something else. Pranic movement, authentic

movement, whatever, just so folks can distinguish for themselves.

 

"Kundalini

Yoga

is the means by which we can safely *prepare to activate and channel

Kundalini energy*, to raise our consciousness through the chakras,

through which we can transform our heightened spiritual awareness into

constructive actions".

 

Now, I when I teach it's

by the book 100%! I want to make that distinction. Yogiji once defined

"Love as walking/creating a path such that others can follow". I walk a

path already cleared by Yogi Bhajan, and by his teacher, and by his

teacher's teacher, and so forth. Guru Ram Das is in this mix. This

orientation gives me something beyond a limited sense of my imperfect

self to refer to, something greater and beyond my "tanned leather bag"

when a student comes to me for an answer. Provided that I've been doing my

Sadhana, it

is not me who is going to answer .

 

In Service,

Dharam Singh

Millis, MA

 

 

chrism wrote:

 

Sat Nam Dharam,

I should add that as the spine is infused with Kundalini the body will go into automatic poses. Some of these poses can begin to pulse as the individual is literally forced to assume them. Many of these automatic asanas are what Kundalini Yoga is comprised of, hence the name of this style of Yoga. These are my obsevations based upon 17 years of experience and research into the subject. They are mirrored by others who have also awakened the Kundalini by many different means. Kundalini Yoga is very important as it can give a person a fore shadowing of what can be coming. -

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Dharam,

Your response is gracious and wide in compassion and

honesty and I am in gratitude for your response.

 

Kundalini is called many names and has many meanings. " coil in/of

the hair

of the beloved " being similar to " that which is coiled " or

the " three and a half coiled serpent " there are many. Every culture

has a dialogue with it as every person has its potential.

 

Prana is different and is not in action or structure like that of

Kundalini. imho. It is more of an aspect of a polarized division of

life force. And can act as a precursor to Kundalini activation. IE

Prana + Shakti = Kundalini activation. Or " As above, so below. "

 

You mention the aspect of a personal and private experience. It is

indeed these but it is also a shared experience as many have come to

this area, though it is still somewhat rare in the general

populations. Signposts of the experience are available now and there

are general guidelines of conduct that are beneficial to this

experience. A person can still get into severe hardship as this

isn't widespread knowledge yet. Particularly those in the Yoga and

martial arts areas of activity.

 

As we interact with others, at least here in the west, we will come

into contact with people who are not inside this expression -most

people - and it is here where problems can arise. This brings the

private aspect into the public sector. There is a need for this

process to be understood and recognized that those who are having

this experience do not become isolated and chemically subdued or

harmful to self or others because of fear.

 

Yoga was created for the infusion of the Kundalini imho. Patanjali

created some of his poses from the observation of a person or people

going through the " Kriya " aspect of a Kundalini awakening. This

would be a similar genesis for Kundalini Yoga. The asanas are too

similar to be accidental. –

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , D h a r a m <pran.108

wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Chrism,

> One needs to define Kundalini and make sure not to confuse it

with

> Prana (or Chi). Kundalini has been called the " pressure of the

Soul " ,

> " the yoga of transmission " , and it literally means " coil in/of the

hair

> of the beloved " . You're in a place that more than a few people

have

> delved. It's timeless and precious and very personal and thusly

> difficult to fully relate to others. I, myself, in my personal

practice

> pretty much do things by the book, and I say pretty much because

on *at

> least* one occasion, in my personal practice and during the warm

ups, I

> might add, I found myself wanting to move in a way that was " off

the

> map " and I actually felt a very subtle acknowledgement, in that

moment,

> through the ethers from the Master himself, Yogi Bhajan. It was

one of

> those very special moments. It was private. These experiences will

> happen on their own and, I believe, should not be sought after. Of

> course, if you do be prepared to call it something else. Pranic

> movement, authentic movement, whatever, just so folks can

distinguish

> for themselves.

>

> " Kundalini Yoga is the means by which we can safely *prepare to

activate

> and channel Kundalini energy*, to raise our consciousness through

the

> chakras, through which we can transform our heightened spiritual

> awareness into constructive actions " .

>

> Now, I when I teach it's by the book 100%! I want to make that

> distinction. Yogiji once defined " Love as walking/creating a path

such

> that others can follow " . I walk a path already cleared by Yogi

Bhajan,

> and by his teacher, and by his teacher's teacher, and so forth.

Guru Ram

> Das is in this mix. This orientation gives me something beyond a

limited

> sense of my imperfect self to refer to, something greater and

beyond my

> " tanned leather bag " when a student comes to me for an answer.

Provided

> that I've been doing my Sadhana, it is not me who is going to

answer .

>

> In Service,

> Dharam Singh

> Millis, MA

>

>

>

> chrism wrote:

>

> >Sat Nam Dharam,

> > I should add that as the spine is infused with

> >Kundalini the body will go into automatic poses. Some of these

poses

> >can begin to pulse as the individual is literally forced to

assume

> >them. Many of these automatic asanas are what Kundalini Yoga is

> >comprised of, hence the name of this style of Yoga. These are my

> >obsevations based upon 17 years of experience and research into

the

> >subject. They are mirrored by others who have also awakened the

> >Kundalini by many different means. Kundalini Yoga is very

important as

> >it can give a person a fore shadowing of what can be coming. -

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Chrism,

I'm working on the graciousness part. It ain't easy. Lots and lots

of Frog Pose helps.

In my initial response to you I characterized this movement as Prana

and not Kundalini. I needed to elaborate more.

First off, I'm not going to pretend I understand, conceptually, every

manifestation, or movement, of the Kundalini experience. My words will

betray belie me more than I'd like to admit.

In my personal experience, at the age of 20 I was blessed with

opportunity to practice Kundalini Yoga (as taught by Yogi Bhajan) and

to have an experiences so powerful (yeah, it flipped my sh*t ), that

the movement of the Shakti within my whole psyche necessitated ME

finding a modality that addressed the needs of my body, my mind and my

past emotional pains (actually "pain" is way too light a word). I found

my way to Bio-energetics* and Gestalt Therapy which I practiced every

week for a year. After one particularly deep emotional clearing I was

experiencing a movement that was snake like. I thought of "Kundalini"

but left it as that. No need to delve into it further as I was too busy

feeling good. I would come to have similar emotional clearing/mind

washings many times in the coming months that were quite ecstatic, but

never again with the serpentine motion. This one manifestation is such

a small part of the total experience of Kundalini. There is a much

bigger dance to needs to play out. As it is, I "raise" my Kundalini

everyday. That fresh, rejuvenated feeling I get is, to me, is evidence

of "rising" Kundalini. Nothing dramatic, but it is certainly worth

talking about, even if average for folks like us. The bigger struggle

is seeing things/life through the eyes of the Shiva aspect. We can move

Kundalini Shakti all day long, I think, but not have the full

experience until we can wrap our mind around the need for righteous

actions, for noble actions, for acts of compassion, etc. (God will have

to help me on this one). For this reason, for me, reading from Siri

Guru Granth Sahib is quite transformative. It reminds me of an aspect

already within that provides a container or a form for this Shakti

power. Tratakam meditation has the same effect as Yogiji is the Mahan

Tantric. There is an aspect of our experience that is personal and

there is an aspect that is im-personal. In the realm of the personal is

the emotional work, that all too often is not addressed. Happiness is

our Birthright.

And you are right with regards to the need to communicate around these

experiences and what they mean, but it needs to addressed from a place

of sacredness. Our egos can really make a mess of this.

Hmmm, the word "character" comes to mind as I reflect on all this

(writing can be so therapeutic, at times).

Gotta run...I'm burnin' daylight.

 

More Power than We Know,

Dharam Singh

Millis, MA

 

I leave you with some words from Yogi bhajan:

 

"This is the glitter at the bottom of the ladder. These hallucinations,

psychism, and

 

nerve weaknesses mean nothing. If a student practicing Kundalini Yoga

is very

 

blocked up in the spine and pranic nadis, he may have a one-time

experience when

 

the channels are cleared. But that is one time, brief, and does not

disrupt anything.

 

These other causes are when the nerves have not been prepared, there is

no mantra,

 

or breathing has not been practiced. The real measure of Kundalini

rising is your

 

consciousness from breath to breath and the courage you bring to your

Life. These

 

momentary flashes brought on by weakness have nothing to do with

Kundalini."

 

--Yogi Bhajan

 

 

*

 

 

chrism wrote:

 

Sat Nam Dharam,

Your response is gracious and wide in compassion and honesty and I am in gratitude for your response. Kundalini is called many names and has many meanings. "coil in/of the hair of the beloved" being similar to "that which is coiled" or the "three and a half coiled serpent" there are many. Every culture has a dialogue with it as every person has its potential. Prana is different and is not in action or structure like that of Kundalini. imho. It is more of an aspect of a polarized division of life force. And can act as a precursor to Kundalini activation. IE Prana + Shakti = Kundalini activation. Or "As above, so below."

You mention the aspect of a personal and private experience. It is indeed these but it is also a shared experience as many have come to this area, though it is still somewhat rare in the general populations. Signposts of the experience are available now and there are general guidelines of conduct that are beneficial to this experience. A person can still get into severe hardship as this isn't widespread knowledge yet. Particularly those in the Yoga and martial arts areas of activity. As we interact with others, at least here in the west, we will come into contact with people who are not inside this expression -most people - and it is here where problems can arise. This brings the private aspect into the public sector. There is a need for this process to be understood and recognized that those who are having this experience do not become isolated and chemically subdued or harmful to self or others because of fear. Yoga was created for the infusion of the Kundalini imho. Patanjali created some of his poses from the observation of a person or people going through the "Kriya" aspect of a Kundalini awakening. This would be a similar genesis for Kundalini Yoga. The asanas are too similar to be accidental. –