Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Sat Nam; I was waiting to see what answer(s?) people would give to this question. Not having seen any yet, I will offer what I can. You are not talking about the " r " are you? In case you are: the " r " should be a " rolled " " r " with the tongue flapping forward against the roof of the mouth as it moves forward. I think you really were asking about the length of the second syllable of the word " Guru. " One thing I can tell you about this is that if you were reading the word in Gurmukhi the " Gu " would be a short vowel while the " roo " would be a long vowel. Technically that means giving one (matra) or count for the " Gu " and two matras or counts for the " roo " . That would be when reading the word from Gurmukhi script. However, I am not sure I ever hear it pronounced that way when people are speaking or saying common expressions - except for punjabi sikhs. I think some or all punjabi sikhs give twice the length to the " roo " as they do to the " Gu. " Also perhaps while chanting shabads all sikhs might be giving the " roo " twice as long a count. An example of common speech is " Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji ki fateh. " The Gurmukhi spelling of that expression shows the long vowel on the second syllable " roo. " It seems that I (always) hear white or caucasian sikhs (3HO Sikhs) give equal length to the " Gu " and the " ru " . I am not positive but pretty sure I have heard Punjabi Sikhs saying that same expression with the longer " roo " as indicated by the Gurmukhi script. Perhaps others can confirm or dispute my observation. There seem to be conventions for everyday speech that vary from correctly read Gurmukhi in other places as well as the word " Guru " . I am not aware of the history of the various conventions in use. Perhaps in daily speaking, this difference in how " Guru " is read/pronounced is only a matter of convention. There is another example of this sort of thing, with the word " Bhai. " Again in Gurmukhi both the " a " and the " i " would be long vowels, like " Bhaaee " but I have never heard it pronounced that way when part of an individual's title or name. From what I have heard in daily speaking, neither of these vowels is pronounced as a long vowel. Perhaps someone here with more years of experience with sikhism can offer some additional clarity about these " common language " pronunciations. Wahe Guroo! Nam Hari Kaur - Eugene, OR Kundalini-Yoga , " Jeanette " <jjproperties wrote: > > In my Kundalini Yoga classes, the instructor told us to pronounce Guru > as " Gudu " , but many of the books I have say it is pronounced " Guroo " . > Which way is it? > > Thanks, > Jeanette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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