Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Sat nam. I have two students who came to me for advice recently. They are attempting to deal with their own physical conditions and want to find non medical manners of healing as well as the traditionally western medical routes. The first student has prostate cancer. I have heard that Sat Kriya would be beneficial - although I cannot find that source at this moment. Another student has persistent sexual arousal syndrome. From the very brief explanation I received, I gather that her arousal is on " go " all the time and she is having difficulty concentrating on anything else. She is a pre-med student and is waiting to see a specialist. Likelihood prescription will be anti-depressants. If you have a suggestion for either of these two inquires, please let me know. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Sat nam, I believe that root lock (mulbhand) would be helpful to both of these students. For the prostate cancer it will nourish the second chakra with energy. For the sexual arousal, it will move the energy of the second chakra up the spine, transforming it to higher chakra frequency. Sat kriya would definitely be the best for reducing the sexual arousal. However, if the higher chakras are blocked this may not be as effective. She should open all the chakras first. Both students have second chakra imbalance. The prostate cancer student would greatly benefit from colon cleansing. Old fecal deposits and built up mucoid plaque in the colon will put pressure on the prostate gland. Colon cleansing can cure prostate cancer. Check out Dr. Richard Schulze website and the testimonials on his site for more about this. And regarding the sexual arousal condition, this is something that may take some time to deal with, because there may be emotional issues involved. Get the heart chakra open so that the student can relate to people through compassion and service rather that sexuality. This sex obsession can result from the programming of society, so retraining oneself to think otherwise takes huge courage as we break free from our conditioning. This is the process of individuation, as we become true adults. I would recommend any set that opens all the chakras and includes Sat Kriya, such as Kriya for Elevation. Love and Light, Arden Riordan Kundalini-Yoga , " kundaliniwpg " <kundaliniwpg wrote: > > Sat nam. I have two students who came to me for advice recently. > They are attempting to deal with their own physical conditions and > want to find non medical manners of healing as well as the > traditionally western medical routes. > > The first student has prostate cancer. I have heard that Sat Kriya > would be beneficial - although I cannot find that source at this moment. > > Another student has persistent sexual arousal syndrome. From the very > brief explanation I received, I gather that her arousal is on " go " all > the time and she is having difficulty concentrating on anything else. > She is a pre-med student and is waiting to see a specialist. > Likelihood prescription will be anti-depressants. > > If you have a suggestion for either of these two inquires, please let > me know. Thank you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Sat Nam - It is certainly a blessing to have the support of the wonderful ancient wisdom of Kundalini Yoga & Meditation available to us whenever we have serious problems in our lives, whether they be physical or mental/emotional. I have been personally employing these techniques and recommending them to students for about thirty-five years. Nonetheless, I think this is an excellent time to remind all the excited and deeply driven young yoga teachers out there how important it is, both legally in the here and now, and karmically for ever and ever,to be extremely cautious when advising any student who has a serious medical condition. For decades, I watched and heard YB give all kinds of advice for various ailments from diaper rash to Alzheimers Disease, but it was always clear that these recommendations were to be taken, not in the place of sound medical advice, but in addition to. He himself used every modality available - including " straight " allopathic medical techniques - to combat his own illnesses, and I heard him many times urge students to see their doctors about this or that medical problem. Our responsibility is profound, especially when dealing with a student who may have a life threatening illness, and to imply either directly or indirectly, that our blessed teachings should or could take the place of sound, educated, responsible, professional medical advice is a recipe for disaster, on so many levels. I understand that in this case, these two particular students were seeking paths to follow " as well as the traditionally western medical routes, " but it still warrants reminding, I think, that it is our responsibility to continue to encourage students to listen to their doctors first. If they choose - on their own - to ignore " straight " medical advice, that is clearly their own decision, but it is even more clearly not our position to even subtley imply that they should do so; and in fact, it is probably best all around for us to continue to remind them to " remember what the doctor said. " No question that there are good doctors and not-so-good doctors out there, but we must remember that we are not in the business of making basic medical decisions for our students. That is their responsibility alone, and we must continue to make that clear to them in all our communications with them as we offer support, support, and more support. It is an enormous blessing to have the knowledge of these techniques, and it is an even more enormous responsibility to use them with care. Love to All - Rai Kaur Khalsa, VMD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2007 Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Okay, I'm stepping in where angels fear to tread, but here goes. As a practitioner of Kundalini Yoga for 37+ years, a scientist, and a chiropractor, I'd like to voice a word of caution about how you recommend treatments for any type of cancer, including prostate cancer. Regardless of your personal beliefs about whether a given intervention (be it a kriya, meditation, herb, supplement, " natural " procedure, or pharmaceutical drug) is effective for a given cancer, unless you have an appropriate state license (e.g., MD), it is probably illegal for you to " recommend " said intervention. Specifically, you'd probably be practicing " medicine without a license " and could be sued by the person and/or their family for your recommendation. That is, being a trained kundalini yoga teacher, regardless of how good, does not qualify you to " treat " or make recommendations about how to treat cancer. It is also worthwhile to consider the quality of the source of information that you'd accept for recommending a treatment of a potentially life-threatening disease, such as cancer. It is possibly true, maybe even probably true, that someone with prostate cancer had it disappear following colon cleansing. Certainly the internet is replete with anecdotes and claims of miraculous cures for just about everything, including prostate cancer. However, it is one thing to report an anecdote of a cancer " cure " , or even a series of anecdotes of cancer " cures " due to an intervention (i.e., " testimonials " ), but it is an entirely different thing to be able to rigorously demonstrate that that intervention is a safe and effective treatment or cure for most people. The good news is that it is known how to conduct such studies and in the U.S., the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and specifically the National Cancer Institute (NCI) does so. NCI maintains a comprehensive website that describes treatments that have been shown to be safe and effective, as well as treatments that are under investigation. Additionally, the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM) (also part of the NIH) is actively investigating a broad range of " natural " approaches to treating cancer, including a host of mind-body approaches (e.g., meditation, yoga, etc.), herbs, supplements, etc. The field of biomedical science is littered with putative cures for cancer that looked promising initially (e.g., due to anecdotal reports), but that failed to demonstrate true efficacy when critically scrutinized (i.e., with well-controlled, randomized clinically trials). In my humble opinion, as a kundalini yoga teacher, you should hold yourself to the highest standards as a purveyor of health information to your students. So, if you really want to know effective treatments for a given condition, then consult with true experts before considering other opinions. My two cents. With much respect, Partap Kundalini-Yoga , " croneishome " <ardenr wrote: > > Sat nam, > > I believe that root lock (mulbhand) would be helpful to both of these > students. For the prostate cancer it will nourish the second chakra > with energy. For the sexual arousal, it will move the energy of the > second chakra up the spine, transforming it to higher chakra > frequency. Sat kriya would definitely be the best for reducing the > sexual arousal. However, if the higher chakras are blocked this may > not be as effective. She should open all the chakras first. Both > students have second chakra imbalance. > > The prostate cancer student would greatly benefit from colon > cleansing. Old fecal deposits and built up mucoid plaque in the colon > will put pressure on the prostate gland. Colon cleansing can cure > prostate cancer. Check out Dr. Richard Schulze website and the > testimonials on his site for more about this. > > And regarding the sexual arousal condition, this is something that may > take some time to deal with, because there may be emotional issues > involved. Get the heart chakra open so that the student can relate to > people through compassion and service rather that sexuality. This sex > obsession can result from the programming of society, so retraining > oneself to think otherwise takes huge courage as we break free from > our conditioning. This is the process of individuation, as we become > true adults. I would recommend any set that opens all the chakras and > includes Sat Kriya, such as Kriya for Elevation. > > Love and Light, > Arden Riordan > > > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " kundaliniwpg " > <kundaliniwpg@> wrote: > > > > Sat nam. I have two students who came to me for advice recently. > > They are attempting to deal with their own physical conditions and > > want to find non medical manners of healing as well as the > > traditionally western medical routes. > > > > The first student has prostate cancer. I have heard that Sat Kriya > > would be beneficial - although I cannot find that source at this > moment. > > > > Another student has persistent sexual arousal syndrome. From the very > > brief explanation I received, I gather that her arousal is on " go " all > > the time and she is having difficulty concentrating on anything else. > > She is a pre-med student and is waiting to see a specialist. > > Likelihood prescription will be anti-depressants. > > > > If you have a suggestion for either of these two inquires, please let > > me know. Thank you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Please note the tone of these other two responses: FEAR FEAR FEAR. Please do not let these people make you afraid to speak about health benefits of yoga and alternative healing. Of course, some precautions should be taken to ensure that the student is treating the illness with advice from a professional and not just on their own. You can accomplish this by asking questions to see what they are already doing, and making sure that if they do choose to proceed with alternative therapy, that they are working with a trained and educated practitioner. It is possible to cure cancer with only alternative medicine, but it is a hard and lonely path for many people, because even naturopathic doctors recommend allopathic treatment these days. I have one student now going this route. She has gone from one naturopathic doctor to the next, and all of them have told her to do chemotherapy and radiation. She has finally chosen a doctor who is going to give her the smallest dose of chemo, in conjunction with hours of IVs of nutritional supplements and other alternative medicine. I don't think this student of yours needs fear added to his situation. And you don't need it either. If you become afraid based on these last two posts, then it will be felt by your students. If a person with serious illness makes a decision out of fear, as a result of your fear about giving advice or because of something their doctors tell them, they are cooked. Fear is not helpful in healing. Studies have shown that a doctor's prognosis that someone only has a few months left to live can be a death sentence because the patient accepts their belief. Of course you should be aware that the government, FDA, and the AMA are out to eradicate alternative therapy and to incorporate it into their western medicine so that they can reap the benefits. This translates into attacks on people who make statements about curing diseases with alternative medicine. And it has also translated into the " naturopathic " medicine of today, which should really be called " green allopathy " -- meaning it is a blend of Western allopathy with althernative therapies such as herbalism and acupunture. I in no way meant to imply that your student should invent his own system, or that he should do one enema expecting to be cured. Yes there are thousands of testimonials on the Internet, but I did not say read any testimonial you can find. I specifically said Dr Richard Schulze. He was the student of Dr. John Christopher and Bernard Jensen. He taught at The School of Natural Healing and has taught all over the world. His clinic was closed down by the government because he was healing people with alternative medicine. He almost went to jail, unlike his teachers, both of whom did go to jail for their work. These other posters make assumptions that you are not responsible enough to handle the situation. I did not. I only answered your question about what kriyas and exercises to suggest. I did not read in your question that you wanted anything about how to talk to the student. So I humbly add the simply caveat " Take precautions to ensure that you will not get into trouble for making false claims to your student about alternative therapy. " Kundalini-Yoga , " pkhalsa " <partap.khalsa wrote: > > Okay, I'm stepping in where angels fear to tread, but here goes. As a > practitioner of Kundalini Yoga for 37+ years, a scientist, and a > chiropractor, I'd like to voice a word of caution about how you > recommend treatments for any type of cancer, including prostate > cancer. Regardless of your personal beliefs about whether a given > intervention (be it a kriya, meditation, herb, supplement, " natural " > procedure, or pharmaceutical drug) is effective for a given cancer, > unless you have an appropriate state license (e.g., MD), it is > probably illegal for you to " recommend " said intervention. > Specifically, you'd probably be practicing " medicine without a > license " and could be sued by the person and/or their family for your > recommendation. That is, being a trained kundalini yoga teacher, > regardless of how good, does not qualify you to " treat " or make > recommendations about how to treat cancer. > > It is also worthwhile to consider the quality of the source of > information that you'd accept for recommending a treatment of a > potentially life-threatening disease, such as cancer. It is possibly > true, maybe even probably true, that someone with prostate cancer had > it disappear following colon cleansing. Certainly the internet is > replete with anecdotes and claims of miraculous cures for just about > everything, including prostate cancer. However, it is one thing to > report an anecdote of a cancer " cure " , or even a series of anecdotes > of cancer " cures " due to an intervention (i.e., " testimonials " ), but > it is an entirely different thing to be able to rigorously demonstrate > that that intervention is a safe and effective treatment or cure for > most people. > > The good news is that it is known how to conduct such studies and in > the U.S., the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and specifically the > National Cancer Institute (NCI) does so. NCI maintains a comprehensive > website that describes treatments that have been shown to be safe and > effective, as well as treatments that are under investigation. > Additionally, the National Center for Complementary and Alternative > Medicine (NCCAM) (also part of the NIH) is actively investigating a > broad range of " natural " approaches to treating cancer, including a > host of mind-body approaches (e.g., meditation, yoga, etc.), herbs, > supplements, etc. The field of biomedical science is littered with > putative cures for cancer that looked promising initially (e.g., due > to anecdotal reports), but that failed to demonstrate true efficacy > when critically scrutinized (i.e., with well-controlled, randomized > clinically trials). In my humble opinion, as a kundalini yoga teacher, > you should hold yourself to the highest standards as a purveyor of > health information to your students. So, if you really want to know > effective treatments for a given condition, then consult with true > experts before considering other opinions. My two cents. > > With much respect, > > Partap > > Kundalini-Yoga , " croneishome " <ardenr@> wrote: > > > > Sat nam, > > > > I believe that root lock (mulbhand) would be helpful to both of these > > students. For the prostate cancer it will nourish the second chakra > > with energy. For the sexual arousal, it will move the energy of the > > second chakra up the spine, transforming it to higher chakra > > frequency. Sat kriya would definitely be the best for reducing the > > sexual arousal. However, if the higher chakras are blocked this may > > not be as effective. She should open all the chakras first. Both > > students have second chakra imbalance. > > > > The prostate cancer student would greatly benefit from colon > > cleansing. Old fecal deposits and built up mucoid plaque in the colon > > will put pressure on the prostate gland. Colon cleansing can cure > > prostate cancer. Check out Dr. Richard Schulze website and the > > testimonials on his site for more about this. > > > > And regarding the sexual arousal condition, this is something that may > > take some time to deal with, because there may be emotional issues > > involved. Get the heart chakra open so that the student can relate to > > people through compassion and service rather that sexuality. This sex > > obsession can result from the programming of society, so retraining > > oneself to think otherwise takes huge courage as we break free from > > our conditioning. This is the process of individuation, as we become > > true adults. I would recommend any set that opens all the chakras and > > includes Sat Kriya, such as Kriya for Elevation. > > > > Love and Light, > > Arden Riordan > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Yoga , " kundaliniwpg " > > <kundaliniwpg@> wrote: > > > > > > Sat nam. I have two students who came to me for advice recently. > > > They are attempting to deal with their own physical conditions and > > > want to find non medical manners of healing as well as the > > > traditionally western medical routes. > > > > > > The first student has prostate cancer. I have heard that Sat Kriya > > > would be beneficial - although I cannot find that source at this > > moment. > > > > > > Another student has persistent sexual arousal syndrome. From the very > > > brief explanation I received, I gather that her arousal is on " go " all > > > the time and she is having difficulty concentrating on anything else. > > > She is a pre-med student and is waiting to see a specialist. > > > Likelihood prescription will be anti-depressants. > > > > > > If you have a suggestion for either of these two inquires, please let > > > me know. Thank you. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Thank you, Rai Kaur - this is an invaluable posting to all of us as Kundalini Yoga teachers. I always say to a student, "You should do such and such meditation or kriya - but talk to you doctor or health care provider first, and let me know what they say." Very important information. Thank you again. Blessings- Guru Jiwan Kaur Corrales, NM "You must not only be intuitive, you must also be conscious. Intuition will tell you panoramically what your tomorrow is, and consciousness will guide you to that tomorrow." ~Yogi Bhajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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