The Mystery of 2012

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam, Sat Avtar Kaur --

Yes it seems that sometime we are invisible, but isn't Infinity also

invisible? And yet things get accomplished as needed and as they are

going to, even in this media driven corporate society where getting

" visibility " involves having a brand logo like CNN, Disney, etc. etc.,

where someone " owns " and " spins " your message to someone else's

advantage. So much for that kind of commercial visibility. The

Khalsa be visible and still standing when things are down and darkest,

that's how you will recognize and gravitate toward Khalsa. (And by

their fruits you'll know them, whereas at this time it's all still

speculation, because the Shift really hasn't hit the fan yet).

 

In this run-up time to 2012, I'd suggest a very recent book by Barbara

Hand Clow titled, " Mayan Code: Time Acceleration and Awakening the

World Mind. "

 

If you would like to know some of what Yogi Bhajan said specifically

about this (in August 1987 at the time of the so-called " Harmonic

Convergence " ), I just uploaded a pdf transcript of that lecture in the

Files section of this Forum.

 

You may also want to read about George Washington's Vision and

Prophecy. (I also posted this pdf as George Washington's Vision -

it's a little challenging to read, but very worth it). Yogi Bhajan

said it was very accurate, and that it WOULD happen. In its later

stages the vision tells of a time to come in which clouds of rage

against America would arise from every " corner " of the globe, and that

the nation would only endure when columns of " white light " beings

descend from the heavens to assist " the People " to sustain their hope

and determination for the greatest good of humanity. At the time, in

1976, I could not understand just how such a crisis of anger rage

toward " us " could ever happen. Wow. Times have changed on that one.

 

This concept even arises in The Lord of the Rings, Return of the

King, the resonance is uncanny and also heartening that greater forces

will assist us in the coming times. Because, if we're simply on our

own, there is no tomorrow. That's what we mean when we sing, " If the

Khalsa falls, there won't be a world at all. "

 

In my own understanding, the Dalai Lama is no less Khalsa than any

Sikh has ever been. And so, the wheel is turning toward 2012, " Keep

the faith, Baby. "

 

Blessings,

Krishna Singh

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Sat Avtar Kaur "

<myralorey wrote:

>

> The Mystery of 2012: Predictions, Prophecies & Possibilities (Hardcover)

>

> http://www.amazon.com/

>

> Book Description

> What Will Happen in 2012? Will there be an age of awakening, a new step

> in human evolution, or even an end to the world we know? For years,

> archaeologists have known the Mayan calendar predicts this date as the

> end of an era on Earth. Today, more and more researchers, spiritual

> explorers, and even scientists are witnessing signs that 2012 will mark

> a critical shift in the history of our planet.

>

> I really do wonder, how people are going to find you and what all of you

> Kundalini Yoga teachers have to offer them when you are invisible.

>

> Sat Nam,

>

> Sat Avtar Kaur

>

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Krishna Singh

 

I just found this in my spam folder. I have a copy of George

Washington's Vision. It was published sometime in the 1800s, well

after Washington died. Do you have any more information on it's

authenticity as far as it actually being GW's vision and not the

author's dream? Also any more info on what the SSS said about it?

 

Blessings

GuruBandhu

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Krishna Singh

Khalsa " <Krishna wrote:

>

> Sat Nam, Sat Avtar Kaur --

> Yes it seems that sometime we are invisible, but isn't Infinity also

> invisible? And yet things get accomplished as needed and as they

are

> going to, even in this media driven corporate society where getting

> " visibility " involves having a brand logo like CNN, Disney, etc.

etc.,

> where someone " owns " and " spins " your message to someone else's

> advantage. So much for that kind of commercial visibility. The

> Khalsa be visible and still standing when things are down and

darkest,

> that's how you will recognize and gravitate toward Khalsa. (And by

> their fruits you'll know them, whereas at this time it's all still

> speculation, because the Shift really hasn't hit the fan yet).

>

> In this run-up time to 2012, I'd suggest a very recent book by

Barbara

> Hand Clow titled, " Mayan Code: Time Acceleration and Awakening the

> World Mind. "

>

> If you would like to know some of what Yogi Bhajan said specifically

> about this (in August 1987 at the time of the so-called " Harmonic

> Convergence " ), I just uploaded a pdf transcript of that lecture in

the

> Files section of this Forum.

>

> You may also want to read about George Washington's Vision and

> Prophecy. (I also posted this pdf as George Washington's Vision -

> it's a little challenging to read, but very worth it). Yogi Bhajan

> said it was very accurate, and that it WOULD happen. In its later

> stages the vision tells of a time to come in which clouds of rage

> against America would arise from every " corner " of the globe, and

that

> the nation would only endure when columns of " white light " beings

> descend from the heavens to assist " the People " to sustain their

hope

> and determination for the greatest good of humanity. At the time,

in

> 1976, I could not understand just how such a crisis of anger rage

> toward " us " could ever happen. Wow. Times have changed on that

one.

>

> This concept even arises in The Lord of the Rings, Return of the

> King, the resonance is uncanny and also heartening that greater

forces

> will assist us in the coming times. Because, if we're simply on our

> own, there is no tomorrow. That's what we mean when we sing, " If

the

> Khalsa falls, there won't be a world at all. "

>

> In my own understanding, the Dalai Lama is no less Khalsa than any

> Sikh has ever been. And so, the wheel is turning toward 2012, " Keep

> the faith, Baby. "

>

> Blessings,

> Krishna Singh

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam, GuruBandhu --

When this " Vision " attributed to George Washington was circulating in

" Bicentennial Times " (circa 1976, it appeared in other places and was

given to Yogiji as a " current artifact " and Yogiji himself regarding

it as an authentic vision of the past and what is to come. I can't

vouch for the literary channels, but the story at that time was that

" the vision was told by Washington to someone, who wrote it down " and

that it had been published " from time to time. " The version that

surfaced for publication in advance of the bicentennial celebrations

(Carter was running for president, Nixon had been removed from office,

the wicked witch of the Vietnam war was supposedly dead, America's

long lasting nightmare had been declared " over " by Gerry Ford as his

first statement as president) so I suppose you could say there was

greater optimism and a greater capacity for Americans to believe in

something miraculous and divine about " the Union, " whereas that would

be a pretty hard sell in the public of today (if the audience has its

eyes open, this story would seem like pure fantasy, or a " Karl Rove "

kind of mythological derivative.

 

It is known that Washington was a connoisseur of ganja (marijuana) so

it could be that his psychic channels were already open that afternoon

at Valley Forge (perhaps he had a marijuana card from his doctor, as

could have been the case in Oregon where I live). Or it could be that

this story of Valley Forge is itself a forgery. However, the

essential convergence of story with so many other traditions of

anticipation and prophecy, from Nostradamus, to Guru Gobind Singh, to

the Ancient Maya, the Hopi, Tibetan Dharma, and on, and on, makes this

story worthy of consideration at least. I think it's important to

measure the value of a story like this by the vibrations it carries

and the quality of vision that it inspires within us, in addition to

how it lines up with what " we think we know on our own. " What about

Native American stories about Coyote? It's good to pay attention when

we hear those stories, becuase if we're not paying attention Coyote is

liable to extract some kind of punishment for having a wantering mind

and not paying attention.

 

What marveled me most when I first heard this story, that actually

could have given me some basis for doubt, was the idea that the whole

world might rise up against America in rage. I had no idea how that

might ever occur, even through I clearly understood that American

corruption that manifested as Vietnam. I left a PhD program in

protest of Vietnam. But I could not get from (what at that time

seemed like) a more " small time " global criminal conspiracy of empire

adventure. Yogiji said it would happen. He also said the US military

will have been decimated by disease after being squandered on some

insane adventure (this was in 1976 he said this) and would have been

" wasted and incapable " by the time this would happen. I couldn't

imagine it. I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying he was my teacher

and he said it. I didn't doubt what he said but I couldn't see such a

thing. But now, Wahe Guru, our current bad neighborliness could earn

us a lot of rage from around the globe. So, whether this happens or

not, as a prophecy, if George Washington actually did forecast this,

after stealing so much land in the Northwest Ordinance to pay for the

Constitution and keep the US out of bankruptcy), will if George

Washington did offer such counsel and advise, that would seem to be

positive.

 

I'll say it this way, given what so many other overwhelming factors

point to and predict as a likely future for this part of the world to

live through, live down, digest, detoxify, and heal from, IF George

Washington DIDN'T say this, HE SHOULD HAVE. At any rate, that

indicates one positive pathway where you might gain benefit out of

your obvious suspicion about it's authenticity. Without having to be

qualified to answer your original question. It's a telling story,

maybe fantasy, that's been lingering for quite awhile. Something else

to view, perhaps, at least as an archetype. So perhaps this

background may be helpful for your interest. That even the lies and

falsehoods of history have meaning in context. And currently it takes

about 30 years to find out that we were lied to 30 years ago, and now

suspect that it could be going on continually. So the question that

arises for me, I ask the Infinite, " How does a Raj (rulership) that is

pure and transparent as Khalsa must be, from the current state of

complete cynicism, where the standard comedy routine about " When is a

politician lying? " has the answer, " When the lips are moving. " How

does the Earth population prepare to respect and trust collective life

again since trust is so betrayed and savaged by the current dominant

culture? That's my question for Wahe Guru, since it is the Aquarian

Age that is said to be so. If that is a test for the Aquarian Age,

" How do we get there from here? "

 

Blessings,

Krishna Singh

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Guru K " <greatyoga wrote:

>

> Sat Nam Krishna Singh

>

> I just found this in my spam folder. I have a copy of George

> Washington's Vision. It was published sometime in the 1800s, well

> after Washington died. Do you have any more information on it's

> authenticity as far as it actually being GW's vision and not the

> author's dream? Also any more info on what the SSS said about it?

>

> Blessings

> GuruBandhu

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam Krishna Singh

 

Here is one version of Washington's Vision.

http://www.christianscience.org/WashVision.html

 

There are quite a few versions on the web with Fundamentalist

Christian and here is a Christian Science spin on the Vision.

 

It was published in 1880 after the first two " threats " to the US.

The " threats being the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. I do

think it could be an archetype like you mention.

 

Blessings,

GuruBandhu

 

 

Kundalini-Yoga , " Krishna Singh

Khalsa " <Krishna wrote:

>

> Sat Nam, GuruBandhu --

> When this " Vision " attributed to George Washington was circulating

in

> " Bicentennial Times " (circa 1976, it appeared in other places and

was

> given to Yogiji as a " current artifact " and Yogiji himself regarding

> it as an authentic vision of the past and what is to come. I can't

> vouch for the literary channels, but the story at that time was that

> " the vision was told by Washington to someone, who wrote it down "

and

> that it had been published " from time to time. " The version that

> surfaced for publication in advance of the bicentennial celebrations

> (Carter was running for president, Nixon had been removed from

office,

> the wicked witch of the Vietnam war was supposedly dead, America's

> long lasting nightmare had been declared " over " by Gerry Ford as his

> first statement as president) so I suppose you could say there was

> greater optimism and a greater capacity for Americans to believe in

> something miraculous and divine about " the Union, " whereas that

would

> be a pretty hard sell in the public of today (if the audience has

its

> eyes open, this story would seem like pure fantasy, or a " Karl Rove "

> kind of mythological derivative.

>

> It is known that Washington was a connoisseur of ganja (marijuana)

so

> it could be that his psychic channels were already open that

afternoon

> at Valley Forge (perhaps he had a marijuana card from his doctor, as

> could have been the case in Oregon where I live). Or it could be

that

> this story of Valley Forge is itself a forgery. However, the

> essential convergence of story with so many other traditions of

> anticipation and prophecy, from Nostradamus, to Guru Gobind Singh,

to

> the Ancient Maya, the Hopi, Tibetan Dharma, and on, and on, makes

this

> story worthy of consideration at least. I think it's important to

> measure the value of a story like this by the vibrations it carries

> and the quality of vision that it inspires within us, in addition to

> how it lines up with what " we think we know on our own. " What about

> Native American stories about Coyote? It's good to pay attention

when

> we hear those stories, becuase if we're not paying attention Coyote

is

> liable to extract some kind of punishment for having a wantering

mind

> and not paying attention.

>

> What marveled me most when I first heard this story, that actually

> could have given me some basis for doubt, was the idea that the

whole

> world might rise up against America in rage. I had no idea how that

> might ever occur, even through I clearly understood that American

> corruption that manifested as Vietnam. I left a PhD program in

> protest of Vietnam. But I could not get from (what at that time

> seemed like) a more " small time " global criminal conspiracy of

empire

> adventure. Yogiji said it would happen. He also said the US

military

> will have been decimated by disease after being squandered on some

> insane adventure (this was in 1976 he said this) and would have been

> " wasted and incapable " by the time this would happen. I couldn't

> imagine it. I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying he was my teacher

> and he said it. I didn't doubt what he said but I couldn't see

such a

> thing. But now, Wahe Guru, our current bad neighborliness could

earn

> us a lot of rage from around the globe. So, whether this happens or

> not, as a prophecy, if George Washington actually did forecast this,

> after stealing so much land in the Northwest Ordinance to pay for

the

> Constitution and keep the US out of bankruptcy), will if George

> Washington did offer such counsel and advise, that would seem to be

> positive.

>

> I'll say it this way, given what so many other overwhelming factors

> point to and predict as a likely future for this part of the world

to

> live through, live down, digest, detoxify, and heal from, IF George

> Washington DIDN'T say this, HE SHOULD HAVE. At any rate, that

> indicates one positive pathway where you might gain benefit out of

> your obvious suspicion about it's authenticity. Without having to

be

> qualified to answer your original question. It's a telling story,

> maybe fantasy, that's been lingering for quite awhile. Something

else

> to view, perhaps, at least as an archetype. So perhaps this

> background may be helpful for your interest. That even the lies and

> falsehoods of history have meaning in context. And currently it

takes

> about 30 years to find out that we were lied to 30 years ago, and

now

> suspect that it could be going on continually. So the question that

> arises for me, I ask the Infinite, " How does a Raj (rulership) that

is

> pure and transparent as Khalsa must be, from the current state of

> complete cynicism, where the standard comedy routine about " When is

a

> politician lying? " has the answer, " When the lips are moving. " How

> does the Earth population prepare to respect and trust collective

life

> again since trust is so betrayed and savaged by the current dominant

> culture? That's my question for Wahe Guru, since it is the Aquarian

> Age that is said to be so. If that is a test for the Aquarian Age,

> " How do we get there from here? "

>

> Blessings,

> Krishna Singh

[Guest guest]

Thank you for this information and the link to the website-my question as well

is how do we get there from here, and perhaps we don't. Perhaps we must find

events in 2012 inevitable given the way our country is going. I am no longer

comfortable living here to be quite honest and am praying that we get a new

administration that give us the possibility of changing things. The thing is

can that happen, or are we so blinded by fear of terrorists and everything else

we have been fed that we will not recognize an honest candidate when we see one

and are we really and truly open to a world without war? peace.