Guest guest Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Hi Guruka, Did enjoy reading your post on the gunas and tavatas (sp?). These things are my favorite topics -- so thanks for your sharing... I am not that familiar with the tavatas -- and wondering if you can share even more about it -- how they manifest through human nature etc. possibly? Is there some way we can utilitze them to move higher in the gunas etc.? Appreciate being able to know and share about this information -- it's so much more satisfying than the everyday talk you find out there! Have studied Concept-Therapy for many years and in Phase 6 we were also taught about the three gunas -- the tamas was all negative in nature -- and self serving, the rajas seemed positive but was serving self and would wear a mask generally either mentally or however to gain it's own ends -- seemed positive but the motive was for itself -- wow, have I ever gotten myself into trouble in the past w/o being able to recognize this. The satvas was all good in thought, deed and expression and would serve life first before serving self, as I understood it. In the C. T. study there are two things -- Cosmic Consciousness, and having a spiritual expression -- becoming all good in thought, word and deed. They said that these expressions are found throughout all levels of nature, which are interesting to look at, and then throughout humans. A person was to see themselves where they are at and then work to move into the next guna. Also then you were taught to then move past all the gunas and use them to shift gears as they called it for each situation would demand possibly a different expression for right action -- right action asks three questions before acting -- what is best for me, for the other party and for life and then acts but has true knowledge of the laws of the soul as it's guide. The teacher Dr. Fleet used to say if you are going into the jungle -- you take a bat and I forget what else -- with you -- although they also taught that if you use the lower expressions for right action -- you would only be acting them -- not involved in them. Was reading " I AM " by Sri Nisergatta, and it seems like according to him only someone who is really what he terms as totally identified with the I AM consciousness and no identification with the body or mind can be in the satvas state, and then the I AM consciousness is working through that person exclusively so every act is perfect. In the study we are given the laws of the soul: faith, hope, courage, patience, duty, aspiration, sympathy, forgiveness, generosity, kindness, non-interference and love as first guidelines. It does seem very hard to overcome the inner self at times in aiming to reach the higher states. Dr. Hawkins in his book " Transcending The Levels of Concsiousness " mentions that some people find overcoming the works of the ego (or you can call it the carnal) impossible without the intervention of God. Is anyone open for discussion? Any ideas of how to move into the satvas state? I am new to K.Y. since this past Oct. have found it to be extremely helpful but it does not take away negativity that comes up that I have had an extremely hard time overcoming. Would love to discuss and hear your ideas! : ) Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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