Guest guest Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 (Sitchin, " Journeys to the Mythical Past " , 2007). So, the Sumerians give us both - free will and God's plan. Our path is probably unavoidable, but we can tweak things along the way. I'd love some comments on this, since, really, WHO KNOWS. ============================================== Guru Piaray Jeo !!! SatNam Guru not only defines time and space, guides as well how to come out of it here are four stages 1) All four feet of righteousness/Nam are intact 2) One leg goes missing (here is a trap) 3) two legs go missing (here is a trap) 4) Only One leg of Nam remains (here is a trap) Nam prevails in all fours stages of time and space Gurmat guides these stage as 4 is kajug, 3 is Duaapar 2 is Treyta and 1 is Satjug Guru measures these using the rod of Compassion which is full in stage 1, half in stage 3 and further reduced in stage 4. Keep thinking about time/these jugs are trap too. These are associated with Four legs of righteousness also. With all four legs intact the Dharam ( righteousness) is practiced fully, compassion is full swing. when Guru drops one leg it is termed as ANTAR JOR PAEYA so with three legs a distinction arises in Nam and Nam.Tar as you have pointed out. and Gurmat guides as Treyta Jug where the Nam walks with all three legs. Antar Jor ( Inner division has been created by the Universal creator as per Hukam) It is here Bhagat have described their state as Moeye toeye..... antar kaysa what kind of difference is between Nam and Nam.Tar. This is haumai/duja Bhao/Nam tar which SatGur Jeo has created the separation How to travel in time and space While in Saram Khand where Bani Roop takes the seeker ahead to a state of true surrender, where grace is awaited in Karam Khand to let Nam and Nam.Tar merge and remove the chain of illusion( bharam ka sangal tor nirala) NAM has two aspects 1) Understanding Nam( as Gyan ajan ) which encourages one to challange the system/ challange rituals though this is a trap too because Guru guides to flow in the Hukam to remain 2) Absorbtion in Nam as Nam as binjan ( Nam as food) which is a state where (Karam Milay ta paeyaye),seeker awaits grace remains and the created Anatar Jor Paeya is blessed to be removed Gurmat clearly guides thus how to travel in to get out of time and space by remaining conscious of traps between Nam and Nam Tar in stage 2 Treyta and Nam and rituals at stage stage 3 in duaapar and all forgetting stage Kaljug where listening to Nam ferries one across Gurmat Encourages that one may not have to count on the number of years passed 2000 or 3000 or 5000 years etc. or to tread back or to think who existed in that time or space. Following Gurmat one may cross these years blocks in one moment or say one life or say one time by remaining Absorbed in Nam and with Gurparsad the all time benevolent helps transcending the Anatar Jor Paeya where Nam and Nam.Tar got separated Gurbanee guides on how not to get into these traps Guru guides Sri Guru Granth sahib Ji references to above Guru 880: 1 Guru:445:8 Guru 445:12 ( Antar Jor Paeya: How Nam and Nam.Tar got separated) With Prayers Charan Singh Oshawa, CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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