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(Sitchin, " Journeys to the Mythical Past " , 2007).

 

So, the Sumerians give us both - free will and God's plan. Our path

is probably unavoidable, but we can tweak things along the way. I'd

love some comments on this, since, really, WHO KNOWS.

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Guru Piaray Jeo !!!

 

SatNam

 

Guru not only defines time and space, guides as well how to come out of it

 

here are four stages

 

1) All four feet of righteousness/Nam are intact

2) One leg goes missing (here is a trap)

3) two legs go missing (here is a trap)

4) Only One leg of Nam remains (here is a trap)

 

Nam prevails in all fours stages of time and space

 

Gurmat guides these stage as 4 is kajug, 3 is Duaapar 2 is Treyta and

1 is Satjug

Guru measures these using the rod of Compassion which is full in stage

1, half in stage 3 and further reduced in stage 4. Keep thinking about

time/these jugs are trap too.

 

These are associated with Four legs of righteousness also. With all

four legs intact the Dharam ( righteousness) is practiced fully,

compassion is full swing. when Guru drops one leg it is termed as

ANTAR JOR PAEYA so with three legs a distinction arises in Nam and

Nam.Tar as you have pointed out.

and

Gurmat guides as Treyta Jug where the Nam walks with all three legs.

Antar Jor ( Inner division has been created by the Universal creator

as per Hukam) It is here Bhagat have described their state as Moeye

toeye..... antar kaysa what kind of difference is between Nam and

Nam.Tar.

 

This is haumai/duja Bhao/Nam tar which SatGur Jeo has created the separation

 

How to travel in time and space

While in Saram Khand where Bani Roop takes the seeker ahead to a state

of true surrender, where grace is awaited in Karam Khand to let Nam

and Nam.Tar merge and remove the chain of illusion( bharam ka sangal

tor nirala)

 

 

NAM has two aspects

1) Understanding Nam( as Gyan ajan ) which encourages one to challange

the system/ challange rituals though this is a trap too because Guru

guides to flow in the Hukam to remain

2) Absorbtion in Nam as Nam as binjan ( Nam as food) which is a state

where (Karam Milay ta paeyaye),seeker awaits grace remains and the

created Anatar Jor Paeya is blessed to be removed

 

Gurmat clearly guides thus how to travel in to get out of time and

space by remaining conscious of traps between Nam and Nam Tar in stage

2 Treyta and Nam and rituals at stage stage 3 in duaapar and all

forgetting stage Kaljug where listening to Nam ferries one across

 

Gurmat Encourages that one may not have to count on the number of

years passed 2000 or 3000 or 5000 years etc. or to tread back or to

think who existed in that time or space. Following Gurmat one may

cross these years blocks in one moment or say one life or say one time

by remaining Absorbed in Nam and with Gurparsad the all time

benevolent helps transcending the Anatar Jor Paeya where Nam and

Nam.Tar got separated

 

 

Gurbanee guides on how not to get into these traps

 

 

 

Guru guides

Sri Guru Granth sahib Ji references to above

 

Guru 880: 1

Guru:445:8

Guru 445:12 ( Antar Jor Paeya: How Nam and Nam.Tar got separated)

 

 

 

With Prayers

 

Charan Singh

Oshawa, CA

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